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there's very little doubt that any swirls that you saw were illusions. It's tough for an inexperienced observer to see the spiral pattern of M51 through an 8-inch scope even in pristine skies. I'd say that it's absolutely out of the question in a light-polluted area.
Absolutely agreed. I barely caught the spiral structure of M51 with my NexStar 11 in a very dark site. Seeing the spirals with an 8-inch in a light polluted sky is improbable.
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