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Dave, Immaculate translation (but please don't tell the kids!). More seriously, I totally agree with the points you made on the big Takahashi/Pentax vs TMB/APM apos. As Daniel Mounsey very rightly pointed out in his thoughtful first post in this thread, once you go to 10 inches or bigger with 3 element apos, the thermal/cooldown issues become the dominant/limiting factors. Markus Ludes has put his 12 inch TMB for sale because he discovered that it didn't deliver the exquisite views he expected! Reason: The massive 12 inch 3 element lens just couldn't cool down fast enough to keep track with the often rapidly falling post-dusk temperatures here in Germany. So the sperical correction just almost never was good enough under the real life obseving conditions at his observatory. Such a scope would fare much better at a location in the tropics with minimal temperature changes. The TMB/APM 21 inch APO (elements) just isn't a practical telescope almost anywhere in the world! A Petzval system with two front and two rear elements would come much nearer to solve the cooldown/sperical correction issues. Just my two cents! Ralph |