Charlie Hein
(Postmaster)
10/09/08 12:47 PM
Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!


Welcome to the September 2008 Cloudy Nights Imaging/Sketching Contest poll!

Each month the best images selected from the individual Cloudy Nights Imaging and Sketching forums will be presented for the userbase to vote on. The monthly winner receives the coveted Cloudy Nights t-shirt! At the conclusion of the poll, the entry with the highest total will be the winner of the contest..

Please choose your favorite out of all the images. This poll will remain open through October 15th at midnight EDT.


Here are the entries for September!

Beginning Imaging's Finalist - jeepizoid:



A September Moon Mosaic
Orion 120mm f/8.3 refractor
SVP Mount unguided
Badder moon and skyglow filter
Phillips Spc900nc webcam
12 avi stacked in Registax 4
with an average of 120 frames per picture
12 pictures stitched in autostitch
final processing in Jasc Paint shop pro 8
sharpen,unsharpen mask and resize
captured in Mesa, AZ. In my yard between 1:00 am and 2:00 am Sept 22 2008



DSLR & Digital Camera Astro Imaging & Processing's Finalist - honza.ho:



Here is my "218 Megapixel" mosaic of emission cloud in Cygnus.
This color multiimage mosaic contains 29 tiffs - each composed from 6-8 single shots. Imaged half year.

Info:


Exposure time: 45 hours of (13-16 mins/1600 ASA subs)
Optics: Skywatcher ED 80/600mm reduced by Vixen 0.67x to 402mm/F5
Camera: Canon 400D modified
Guiding: 6-7 hours manually then with Autoguider
Date: Spring/Summer 2008 (since May to September)
Processing: 2 weeks of - Preprocessing (DSS), the rest of work (stitching together, matching the color of adjacent frames, removing gradients) - Adobe Photoshop




CCD Imaging & Processing's Finalist - Jim Lafferty:



Here is a slice of NGC 7000. Imaged with TOA130 with reducer and my ST2000xm camera with Astrodon filters from Redlands, Ca. The mount was my NJP Temma 2. 70-80-70 minutes each of binned SII-Ha-OIII with 80 mins of unbinned Ha as a luminance layer



Solar System Imaging's Finalist - iceman:



Venus, Mercury, Mars and Spica Conjunction
20th September 2008
Canon 350D + Sigma 17-70mm lens
17mm, ISO100, 1.6s exposure, f/7.1
Long Jetty, NSW Australia
Processed in Raw Shooter Premium and Photoshop.




Sketching Forum's Finalist - markseibold:



I would hope to see others lunar sketches in the monthly contest so perhaps this may inspire. It is the largest work that I have attempted as free-hand of the moon yet. Thanks to seeing Rich Handy's tutorials. This is on a fine textured Strathmore paper in Stygian Black in 19" X 25" that I found to be flawed with vertically parallel embossed lines through it after I began the work.

The moons disc was created with a home-made extended string fashioned compass and chalk pencil from another small compass hinge pin. The lunar disc is drawn at 14" diameter. The size did not allow to finish details on the first night in early September 2008 (moon date at 8.5 days), so I continued the central maria regions on the second night at 9.5 days, but left the terminator untouched. While finishing the details on the second night, I added the quick close-up sketch of Mare Imbrium on 9" X 12" Artagain paper if only to represent the feature of the fading light at the terminator edge at bottom. Some surface details in the mare area were left out or omitted due to time allowance. Pastels included new Rembrandt, antique Sargeants, and Prismacolor in various white and off-white, Swan Stabillo antique chalks in various greys. Faber Castell white chalk pencil. Minimal blending was done with cotton swabs.

*The two pastel sketched images were photographed with a digital camera under natural daylight, then sized and joined as a single theme and effort with use of Photoshop for online display here.

Observed through a 10.1" f/4.5 Coulter Dobsonian with a 32mm eyepiece. Seeing was considerably good at approximately 8 ~ 9/10. Temp 60 deg F, dropping to 57 F with still air on both nights.



Good Luck to all our finalists!


InkDark
(Carpal Tunnel)
10/10/08 07:14 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I loooove the Moon mosaic, but my vote must go to Jim Lafferty. Hubble like shot!

Cow Jazz
(professor emeritus)
10/15/08 01:35 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

All right...enough of this stuff! These images are all just too d..m good to choose from. The Moon image (from a beginner?) is to die for, the deep space images incredible, the conjunction beautiful, and the drawing amazing. I vote for all of them! OK, if I have to pick, I'll go for the Moon mosaic, because it's such a stunner for a familiar object.

Uzair
(member)
10/15/08 02:01 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

This is the first time I am participating in the CN monthly contest. I feel compelled to vote because the finalist entries are just so darn good. The photos are all spectacular, but I am partial to good sketching and the moon sketch by markseibold is beautiful - a work of art! The subtle highlights and details in the closeup are very nice and this entry gets my vote!

Starnek
(member)
10/15/08 02:06 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Jim Lafferty's is definitely "Hubble like". Had to go with it, since it's those kind of images that get people interested in astronomy. They are all amazing, but Jim's color and image grab you and hold you right from the beginning view.

Ken


Andrew Welsh
(Carpal Tunnel)
10/15/08 02:14 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Points for Honza Ho's herculean effort.

vincentm
(newbie)
10/15/08 02:36 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Honza's definately

NotThePainter
(sage)
10/15/08 03:30 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

It isn't all about technology and effort. Composition is also dreadfully important. My vote went for the iceman.

dkb
(journeyman)
10/15/08 03:37 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

They are all very excellent and it almost seems a shame to have to choose only one of them when they are such different formats. The sketch for instance is excellent but most people wouldn't vote for it for lack of sex appeal.

Illinois
(professor emeritus)
10/15/08 04:12 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

All are real good but I voted for Jim Lafferty because I never saw like that before....beautiful, sharp and color!

ThunderRock
(member)
10/15/08 04:45 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

honza.ho's photograph is awesome in the composition and the time taken, but I had to go with Jim Lafferty's. When I saw his it just blew me away.

The moon sketch is also a work of art worthy of a museum.


HughB
(journeyman)
10/15/08 04:55 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I love voting for these. But this is the hardest choice yet. "Venus, Mercury, Mars and Spica Conjunction" is beautiful in every way. Voting for Honza.ho's image which just... draws you into it.

David W
(super member)
10/15/08 05:23 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

This might have been the hardest vote I've made for these contests. I wound up going for Honza.ho's majestic view of Cygnus. I really admire his effort -- 45 hours! And 6+ hours of *manually guiding the scope*! Wow.

Beny
(member)
10/15/08 05:43 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Hi all
I am new here and must say thay are all very very Good!!
Just getting back to the stars sinc I was a kid still look at them that way! I think its the best way so I give the nod to iceman! Cool thinking
Brian


Mike Clemens
(Post Laureate)
10/15/08 05:55 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Honza.Ho wins huge!

David Liles
(Astro-Nut)
10/15/08 06:03 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Killer shot Jim Great work

bc1954
(member)
10/15/08 07:43 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Iceman's red hot...and got my vote.

Clear skies,
-Bruce


davidpretorius
(professor emeritus)
10/15/08 08:08 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I loved Jims and then saw Mike's which i fell in love with when he first posted.

znf2
(newbie)
10/15/08 08:20 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I love iceman

TheBigEye
(journeyman)
10/15/08 09:25 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

These are all great images. Toughest choice yet. I voted for the Moon Mosaic because it was produced by a beginner and it is an awesomely-detailed shot - perfectly exposed. The sketches are great, too along with all the other images. I'd sure like to see photos and sketches compete in their own "categories" so we could give an image in each medium a #1 vote.

JamesTruelove
(newbie)
10/15/08 11:09 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

jeepizoid got my vote! I have just taken my first images on my Celestron 10" reflector of the moon and was very impressed with his shot. I just love the moon!!
JamesT (East Sussex UK)


rcg
(Pooh-Bah)
10/15/08 11:17 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Wow, I really liked the lunar work! Magnificent....

hiro
(sage)
10/15/08 11:43 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

a point for Honza. This is an awesome piece of work in the real meaning of the words.

waytoxic
(newbie)
10/16/08 12:37 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I vote for markseibold, his sketch is very good.

Quad
(newbie)
10/16/08 03:32 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

no box to allow me to vote this month? book me in for the moon shot!
regards
simon


To_masz
(newbie)
10/16/08 03:46 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

I vote for markseibold.

Charlie Hein
(Postmaster)
10/16/08 06:59 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Sorry guys, voting ended on the 15th. Check in here every month around the 9th for the poll.

Charlie


Ishtim
(sage)
10/16/08 01:33 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Great work everyone...

rph
(newbie)
10/16/08 02:20 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

My vote goes to jeepizoid. Lovely image.

charlie g
(sage)
10/17/08 12:07 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

marksiebold holds my vote, the various aspects of Luna (marks two sketches here, my various niteface encounters with Luna recently), all thats going on up there with robotic missions of many countries...marksiebold gives a majesty to exploration, lore, and imagination.

All the artists give great projects, thanks all! charlie guevara NJ,US


dcello
(newbie)
10/18/08 10:11 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Great stuff from everyone! The contest ought to be over with everyone first in their category, but...
Gotta go with Jim Lafferty's for purely subjective reasons of course. The main one being that I don't notice Jim Lafferty in the image itself. It has a sense of purity which transports your imagination across space.
For the very opposite reason I really love iceman's photograph too!
It's interesting that it took roughly 1.6 seconds to make as opposed to the 6 month epic project of Cygnus, which is also amazing.
The moon images are also super so my criterion is simply that today I'm in the mood for some deep space!
Congratulations to all for the top-notch quality of their work.


charlie g
(sage)
10/19/08 10:54 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

My vote for markseibold sketches of Luna. I find an appropriate granduer as well as unstated relation between ourselves and our Luna. Those haunting desolate shadows so studied imply explorations now going on 'up there' by howmany different countries/human cultures right now?!!!

All the entries share a skill level and enthusiastic shareing which energizes my refractor visual observing. Thanks all. charlie guevara NJ,US


Rigo Jorgensen
(newbie)
10/20/08 03:41 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

wow, # 2 and 3

hdzmail
(newbie)
10/27/08 10:25 AM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

iceman

markseibold
(Pooh-Bah)
10/27/08 05:54 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

Quote:

These are all great images. Toughest choice yet. I voted for the Moon Mosaic because it was produced by a beginner and it is an awesomely-detailed shot - perfectly exposed. The sketches are great, too along with all the other images. I'd sure like to see photos and sketches compete in their own "categories" so we could give an image in each medium a #1 vote.





Well, thank you Big Eye! . . . And all the others who complimented my lunar sketches. One quoted that my sketch is worthy of a museum! Will someone tell me what museum I should send it too? (;

I just read all these as I was locked out for over a week without my log-on password. Something funny happened on a 6,000 mile 14 day road trip across the continent. I lost my log-in capability. I just received my temp password from a moderator, so I am back, if some wondered why I was not responding lately.

I want to thank all of you for your kind and inspiring words about my 2 recent lunar sketches that apparently, according to Big Eye, would have come in as #1, (if) it were a separate sketching forum from a general photo imaging/sketching forum contest.

I have wondered the same before and maybe made mention with others interjection here as to why photography and sketching are not separated as entirely differing processes in an imaging contest. I have always felt that it is unfair to compare a hand rendered sketch to a photographic machine produced image. Otherwise, as recent NASA research scientists said in an NPR interview, as soon as we have travel capability to go to Mars, we are going to consider taking artists along to do hand sketched and painted renderings of the view standing on the surface. What does this tell you?

As I said, I am more than appreciative of the fine comments from those who recognize the [artistic process] of sketching. I too have delved into many hours previously in the old world of wet film process and have achieved some published awards some years ago; Astronomy magazine published and awarded a couple of my works in 1994 (se my gallery), yet I now find that the artistic process of creating from a totally blank canvas or pastel paper, to be a rewarding experience that is beyond reproach of the technical process of a computerized camera and programming that is aiding in producing an image. Conversely, I would agree that the digital images with said processing here are all beautiful and accomplished works in imaging in their own right. Especially the moon mosaic from a beginner, as many responded. Now I want to copy Jim Lafferty’s nebulous photograph in pastels! Isn’t that a throwback?! Beautiful photographic work Jim!

It is also interesting to note that my sketches came close to a tie for second against the computerized camera imaging. What does this say about the [artistic process] of sketching? I am not bragging here. Putting subjectivity aside and humbly appealing to the new sketchers wherever they may be: I just want those newcomers to sketching to understand that anyone can do what I am doing with pastel chalk on paper in 2 or 3 hours with a little practice and yes, a lot of mistakes! I hope that I can inspire a few more. (; I know that it can be intimidating at first. Ask any good artist if they ever made a mistake. You are in for some great humbling stories. As all those who others consider accomplished artists, most likely started out just like you new beginners. Believe me; I have made many mistakes and I still make them. These recent two sketches, I never considered finished because the moon set!

And I’ll leave you with this. Here’s the worst mistake you can make. Been thinking about sketching but thinking you do not have the talent to do it? Procrastinating? Please, just pick up the pastels and start. In the process of the beginning struggle, you will learn within seconds or minutes. You will teach yourself things that you never thought possible. It is part of the great process of creating . . . Read the tutorials here from the likes of Rich Handy and the all the others that contributed to the book: Astronomical Sketching- I would especially direct your attention to page 88. Sol Robbins comments about the observing and sketching process in great detail. His words on that page are undeniable. By the way, I started sketching maybe when I was 5 or 6. I just bought the book last month. All who contributed from the CN site have some very poignant words in that book. I recommend that even those who think they know it all, should read parts of this book. You will be surprised what can be learned from it, whether you arre an amatuer or professional.

-Mark

I kept a Canadian 20 dollar bill since I crossed the boarder at Niagra Falls last week because I was so impressed with a tiny printed quote on it:

“Could we ever know each other in the slightest without the arts?” ~Gabrielle Roy (1909 ~ 1983)

My Gallery >
http://www.cloudynights.com/photopost/showgallery.php?ppuser=37924&cat=500

Also see this for more varied art and my life of sorts >
www.myspace.com/marksolarprophet


markseibold
(Pooh-Bah)
10/27/08 05:55 PM
Re: Sep08 CN Imaging/Sketching Contest Poll!

To all

Sorry I accidentally posted twice after not being able to log on for a week!? I did not realize that there were two pages of responses. Thanks again to all who commented on the artwork of my sketching. - Mark



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