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Mike Clemens
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NGC7331
      #3387218 - 10/13/09 01:42 PM Attachment (48 downloads)

This is a challenging object for me to process.
This is (10) x 15mins at ISO1600
(TEC 200ED and EOS 40D)

Looking forward to adding more time tonight I hope. This is my first time using 15 minute frames @ ISO1600. Average background at 15 mins/ISO1600 is about 1480 counts. I guess I've got room to go longer, but I'd need to work out focus drift due to temperature.


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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3387221 - 10/13/09 01:44 PM

Good job, the core in this one is really bright o.O

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3387227 - 10/13/09 01:45 PM

WOW!
Awesome closeup of 7331. one of the best ive seen

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: SGT500]
      #3387259 - 10/13/09 02:05 PM

Um, wow. The 15min subs really make a difference.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: QueueCT]
      #3387364 - 10/13/09 03:07 PM

1x1 sensor scale
http://www.scopenews.com/astrophotos/galaxies/ngc7331.jpg


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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3387392 - 10/13/09 03:15 PM

That's a beauty Mike!! Nice detail and the neighbors poking their head over the fence...

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3387661 - 10/13/09 05:37 PM

Excellent shot! Already a winner imho.

You're quite a productive imager btw, Mike. Do you regularly get a lot of clear nights up there in Alaska?

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: DHB001]
      #3387830 - 10/13/09 07:04 PM

Nice work. Good details of the dark stuff.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Star surfer8]
      #3388007 - 10/13/09 08:37 PM

Thanks.

> You're quite a productive imager btw, Mike.
> Do you regularly get a lot of clear nights up there in
> Alaska?

Not really lately. I do usually take about 5-6 hours exposures on nights that work though. That number may go up to 8 or 10 hours as Winter tightens its grip.

I usually start on an object 2 hours before the meridian and then stop 2 hrs after meridian, then switch objects. I think I've done about 5 or 6 objects in the last couple months.


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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3388287 - 10/13/09 10:59 PM

Another very nice galaxy, Mike!!

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #3388417 - 10/14/09 12:20 AM

Outstanding imaging and processing once again!

Cheers.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Stardaug]
      #3388426 - 10/14/09 12:29 AM

Now that's a party. Beautiful. Nice work Mike.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: nickatnight]
      #3388469 - 10/14/09 01:14 AM

wow. i really like the core. very well done!!!

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: bardo]
      #3390564 - 10/15/09 02:03 AM

Superb image of this galaxy , another great one Mike.

15min subs , yikes its must have been cool temps to keep the sensor from pushing a bunch of noise into the shot.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3390608 - 10/15/09 03:15 AM

Thanks! Yes its below freezing now or right around there. Subs are getting quieter.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3392190 - 10/15/09 11:46 PM

Mike fantastic image, you've resolved 7331 beautifully, just amazed at the level of detail captured.

What scope are you using and imaging device?

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: KevinUK]
      #3392317 - 10/16/09 02:18 AM

Thanks, this is EOS 40D unmodified with a TEC 200 f/9 refractor and field flattener.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3392379 - 10/16/09 04:09 AM

Awesome!

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: planetman83]
      #3392381 - 10/16/09 04:13 AM

Love it! And you got so many other fuzzies in there

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3392972 - 10/16/09 01:06 PM

Quote:

Thanks, this is EOS 40D unmodified with a TEC 200 f/9 refractor and field flattener.




Oddly, I imaged the exact same target a few weeks back with a C9.25 @ f/10 and 450D, almost same integration time, 2hr15mins.
FOV should be very similiar, yet 7331 is no where as large as yours in my original image??

Not taking anything away from your wonderful image, but anyone who says dark skies don't help are fooling themselves!



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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: KevinUK]
      #3393129 - 10/16/09 02:37 PM

Your image is scaled down right?

In regards to the 450D, pixels are smaller and your scope is longer focal length so that image ^ has to be scaled down. This is sensor scale for me ( 0.654" / pixel ) http://www.scopenews.com/astrophotos/galaxies/ngc7331.jpg and if I had used a EOS 450D it would be at .6" / pixel or so, even bigger.

That night I took that was as about as dark as it gets here.

Thanks for your comments I would like to understand also.


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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3393143 - 10/16/09 02:44 PM

Nice image Mike. Have you stopped using your CCD...ST402? I hope not I really enjoyed the few PN you did last season.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: lineman_16735]
      #3396604 - 10/18/09 05:04 PM Attachment (6 downloads)

Hello, yes I have stopped the CCD. (Though my results from it are typically sharper looking than the DSLR.) it is an ST237 by the way, not no fancy new model : )

Here is an update - this is now 27 images of 15 minutes each, run through DDP.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Mike Clemens]
      #3397306 - 10/19/09 12:29 AM

Oh wow Mike , super stuff!

7331 is one of my fav targets, not an easy one for sure, but when those pesky dust lanes start showing through nicey and in detail it sure makes it all the more worthwile!

Very nice indeed mate!

p.s i added another hours data to my original will be posting it up shortly, much improved, and yes goiing deeper with 10-15min subs is probably the way to go with this baby.


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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: KevinUK]
      #3397329 - 10/19/09 01:12 AM

Really awesome shot , this latest one is superb.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3397388 - 10/19/09 02:39 AM

This is an awesome shot! Maybe I miss a bit of color saturation, although that would increase a bit the crominance noise.

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Re: NGC7331 new [Re: xatamec]
      #3397413 - 10/19/09 03:29 AM

Thanks!

Here is 2nd version of all 27 (15) minute frames, this time 1x1 and without DDP.
http://www.pbase.com/mclemens1969/image/118465374/original


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