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bryansay
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My First Horsehead
      #3399299 - 10/20/09 12:02 AM Attachment (85 downloads)

This is the shot that first got me interested in Astrophotography when a friend showed me his. Took my first crack at it this weekend and am still fussing with the processing but here goes. Please offer suggestions as I am actively working on this:

Canon 40D Modified
Orion ED80 with Zhumell Skyglow Filter
HEQ-5 Mount, Starshoot Autoguider, Orion ST-80
From Driveway, Georgetown TX
October 18, 2009
Exposure: 24x300s ISO1600 (120 Minutes total)
Darks, Flats, Bias
Stacked in IP3, processed in PS, Cropped

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: bryansay]
      #3399356 - 10/20/09 12:32 AM

Good shot Bryan.

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: lawrie]
      #3399424 - 10/20/09 01:40 AM

Awesome shot, especially for a first! That's a really satisfying object to image

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: lawrie]
      #3399438 - 10/20/09 01:53 AM

Ya that is one of those shots we all see and get inspired from , pretty well done.

Looks like your on your way to some more good shots.

Maybe the colors are a bit strong on this but thats personal taste.

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bryansay
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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3400185 - 10/20/09 01:08 PM

Thanks Lawrie & Martin. Sure felt like a breakthrough moment.

Erik, I probably have overdone the color here. I definitely pushed everything a bit too far and am not satisfied with the result. The raw data looks good, just fussing with the processing.

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: bryansay]
      #3400508 - 10/20/09 04:07 PM

Good image but I would say its very heavily clipped at the black end of the histrogram - which should be avoided

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: Tonk]
      #3400525 - 10/20/09 04:17 PM

Hi briansay,

I agree with Tonk, the image is very clipped at the low lights. I suppose you did it to darken the background and to get rid of the noise, but it makes the image to look a bit "artificial".
I would do a less agressive histogram stretch and would not clip the histogram at all.
Also, increasing the color saturation very much adds much noise in the crominance. It should be done moderately.

It is a very good shot anyway

Sergi

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Re: My First Horsehead new [Re: xatamec]
      #3401351 - 10/20/09 11:49 PM

Thanks Tonk and Sergi. I agree with your observations. You are very accurate on both my attempt to darken and enhance color. I am still a little "coarse" in my photoshop skills and have yet to develop the patience that is evident in your work. I will give it another shot this weekend and will try to use a more delicate touch. :-)

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: bryansay]
      #3413172 - 10/26/09 11:17 PM Attachment (17 downloads)

Hi all. I took the feedback received here and tried to reprocess this image to look more natural. Please let me know what you think of this effort. No changes to the data itself although I plan to collect more soon.

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: bryansay]
      #3413192 - 10/26/09 11:29 PM

Thats much better!
Great work!

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: Tomal]
      #3413370 - 10/27/09 02:22 AM

Fantastic work. I didn't mind the original processing.

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: telecasterguru]
      #3413376 - 10/27/09 02:35 AM

Way better IMHO , I think you did an excellent job there Bryan.

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: Nils_Lars]
      #3413504 - 10/27/09 06:47 AM

The 2nd is a lot better, cngrats

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: Orion_PKFD]
      #3413532 - 10/27/09 07:31 AM

HUGE improvement

N

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: nik hodges]
      #3413566 - 10/27/09 08:09 AM

Very nice re-process!!

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: waassaabee]
      #3414168 - 10/27/09 02:04 PM

love your second version !

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: kiarash]
      #3414956 - 10/27/09 09:20 PM

I guess the old saying is true: "Less is More"

Its tough for a newbie like me to know when to quit trying to improve the image and to accept what you've got.

Thanks all. Hopefully I will be able to collect more data on this beautiful object as the season progresses.

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: bryansay]
      #3415021 - 10/27/09 09:57 PM

That second version looks textbook perfect..
I would be thrilled to have one that nice!!!
Nice work!
You have inspired me to do this object the justice it deserves..and around we go

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: nofxrx]
      #3415058 - 10/27/09 10:14 PM

Awesome Reprocess!

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Re: My First Horsehead - Reprocessed new [Re: SGT500]
      #3415089 - 10/27/09 10:28 PM

Yes the second looks very natural. Good job

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