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Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ??
      #2827138 - 12/27/08 08:33 AM

I'm looking for a gadget to attach to the focus knob of an ETX-125 PE that would allow manual fine focus and have a flex extension cable. All I can find is the motorized type.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Bob

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2827188 - 12/27/08 09:14 AM

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I'm looking for a gadget to attach to the focus knob of an ETX-125 PE that would allow manual fine focus and have a flex extension cable. All I can find is the motorized type.

Any suggestions?

Thanks,

Bob




It's not clear to me exactly what you want. If just a flex-focus extension, they are available from numerous vendors. Those sold on Ebay work fine...or as well as this sort of thing can. As for "fine focus" AFAIK, nobody makes a replacement focuser knob that provides fine focus.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: rmollise]
      #2827603 - 12/27/08 02:03 PM

I guess I'm looking for something like the JMI Motofocus, only without the "moto." Something with reduction gears to allow for much slower turning of the focusing knob, only controlled manually rather than by an electric motor.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2827645 - 12/27/08 02:42 PM

I thought about designing a lever I could clip onto the focus knob of an ETX (and onto my StarBlast), that would make it easier to make tiny changes in the focus.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: jgraham]
      #2827756 - 12/27/08 04:18 PM

A clothespin on the focus knob works well for fine focus

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2827933 - 12/27/08 06:29 PM

Quote:

I guess I'm looking for something like the JMI Motofocus, only without the "moto." Something with reduction gears to allow for much slower turning of the focusing knob, only controlled manually rather than by an electric motor.

Bob




IOW, like a Feathertouch focuser for the ETX. Alas, ain't one or I'd have one.

I get along OK with the flexifocus (which I only use when the knob is inaccessble. Works OK.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: rmollise]
      #2827975 - 12/27/08 07:03 PM

Perfect! I'll have the try the clothspin idea.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2829146 - 12/28/08 03:25 PM

Well, I couldn't find a clothes pin lying around the house, so I ordered a flex cable.

Bob

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2832203 - 12/30/08 08:14 AM

I do have another question, though.

In searching for a flexicable, I ran across some comments about keeping the OTA pointed upward while installing the cable to avoid having the focusing shaft fall into the housing.

I looked at my ETX, and pushed and pulled on the focusing knob and it doesn't move in or out.

Was that caveat for earlier versions of the ETX?

Thanks,

Bob

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ETX 125 PE
Tasco 50mm x 600mm
StellarVue 115ST on MiniTower
Orion Astroview 100
Celestron 8x42 Outland LX
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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2832310 - 12/30/08 09:35 AM

There is a tiny set-screw on the side of the focusing knob-- which you need to loosen to remove the knob.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2832319 - 12/30/08 09:39 AM

ETX's certainly don't have 'fine' focus! The flexible focusers do make it more accesible, especially when the OTA is pointing near the zenith, but it really doesn't change the fineness of focus. Maybe the larger diameter knob helps a little? I've wondered about something like this:

http://www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/borg/parts/html/7315.htm

maybe overkill and maybe there isn't enough focus travel on the ETX to use it anyway.

Steve

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: yock1960]
      #2832356 - 12/30/08 09:59 AM

Quote:

ETX's certainly don't have 'fine' focus! The flexible focusers do make it more accesible, especially when the OTA is pointing near the zenith, but it really doesn't change the fineness of focus. Maybe the larger diameter knob helps a little? I've wondered about something like this:

http://www.sciencecenter.net/hutech/borg/parts/html/7315.htmmaybe overkill and maybe there isn't enough focus travel on the ETX to use it anyway.Steve


Will it cope with the backlash that I've found common to my ETXs

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2832379 - 12/30/08 10:11 AM

Quote:

I do have another question, though.

In searching for a flexicable, I ran across some comments about keeping the OTA pointed upward while installing the cable to avoid having the focusing shaft fall into the housing.

I looked at my ETX, and pushed and pulled on the focusing knob and it doesn't move in or out.

Was that caveat for earlier versions of the ETX?

Thanks,

Bob




AFAIK, this is a potential problem with any ETX once the knob is off.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: rmollise]
      #2832423 - 12/30/08 10:35 AM

For a cheap fine-focus thingy I tried the clip idea on my StarBlast last night and it was very effective. To grib the focus knob on the StarBlast I used a small shop clip rather than a clothes pin, but the idea is the same. I'll have to try it with my ETX. Another possible benefit of the clip is that if you install it right it might be easily accessible with the telescope pointed near zenith.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: jgraham]
      #2836222 - 01/01/09 10:19 AM

Check this link for the vernier mechanism (second item). Some multi-speed focusers use similar parts.
http://www.oselectronics.com/ose_p101.htm

Here is a link to a ATM design using this part.

http://www.bedair.org/Focus/focusproject.html

I use one on my 5" refractor with homemade knobs from radio shack.
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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: nighty]
      #2839683 - 01/02/09 10:21 PM

Terry,

That's exactly what I have been looking for! Unfortunately, making my own is beyond my talents.

Thanks, at least now I know there is/can be such a gadget.

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Orion Astroview 100
Celestron 8x42 Outland LX
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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2840339 - 01/03/09 09:19 AM

I was sure I could not make one, but just drilled a hole through a large plastic knob and attached it to the tabs. This version required holding the large knob and turning the small knob. Second version attached the tabs to the bottom of the focuser via an aluminum strip and both knobs attached to the shafts. Each application took much planning and fiddle time but only about ten minutes of work.
I think the shaft on the ETX will fit directly so an adapter is not needed. You should be able to make it work for around $20.
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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: nighty]
      #2857822 - 01/11/09 11:40 AM

I could sure see a marketable product in that fine focuser. Wish I had the ability to build a dozen or so to test market them. Esp if they were as easy as a "replacement focuser knob for ETX"...

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: DMRandall]
      #2858102 - 01/11/09 01:19 PM

Thanks for the clothes-pin idea. I'll give it a try when the skies clear up!

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: rmollise]
      #2858514 - 01/11/09 04:31 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I do have another question, though.

In searching for a flexicable, I ran across some comments about keeping the OTA pointed upward while installing the cable to avoid having the focusing shaft fall into the housing.

I looked at my ETX, and pushed and pulled on the focusing knob and it doesn't move in or out.

Was that caveat for earlier versions of the ETX?

Thanks,

Bob




AFAIK, this is a potential problem with any ETX once the knob is off.




Now my problem is how to get the knob off.

Scoptronix flex focuser arrived today. Supplied hex key does not fit existing focuser knob set screw. No key I have fits. Appears to be stripped. I've never had it off, but the scope was returned to Meade once for repairs.

What to do?

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ETX 125 PE
Tasco 50mm x 600mm
StellarVue 115ST on MiniTower
Orion Astroview 100
Celestron 8x42 Outland LX
'03 Harley FXDL (oops, wrong forum)


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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2858610 - 01/11/09 05:10 PM

I had this problem with one of my ETX's.

My solution was to sacrifice a very small (cheapy) screwdriver. I used a file and sharpened the driver end so it fit the hex hole. With a little twisting pressure on the screwdriver, being careful not to damage anything the hex screw came out.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: 1_old_dog]
      #2858649 - 01/11/09 05:26 PM

Well, I tried to get back here and delete my post before someone answered, but for an Old Dog, you're pretty fast.

I solved the problem with a 1/16" titanium drill bit.

Flex focuser is now installed and based on observing a distant neighbor's lamp post, works pretty well.

I believe it will be a good solution to fine focusing and the shakes in general.

In case i ever want to reintall the original knob, where on earth would I find a replacement set screw?

Thanks,

bob

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2858771 - 01/11/09 06:18 PM

I'm glad you found a solution.

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Re: Manual Micro-focuser for ETX-125PE ?? new [Re: BobH]
      #2859740 - 01/12/09 08:03 AM

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Now my problem is how to get the knob off.

Scoptronix flex focuser arrived today. Supplied hex key does not fit existing focuser knob set screw. No key I have fits. Appears to be stripped. I've never had it off, but the scope was returned to Meade once for repairs.

What to do?




There should have been a little Allen wrench shipped with the ETX. If you can find that, try that.

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