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drprovi57
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ETX-LS ACF First Light
      #3173389 - 06/20/09 03:40 PM Attachment (291 downloads)

I posted this on the Meade Yahoo Group, it may be valuable here.

Well, I received my Meade ETX-LS ACF (coma-free optics) on Wednesday and it had its first light last Thursday night. Sky conditions were not very good – but I was able to use the LS technology in setting up and compare the optics.

Some background – I am a newbie to this forum, but have extensive experience in astronomy technology of goto mounts and optics. I have owned Celestron equipment (C14, CGE,etc), Meade (LX200R 14, 12, etc), refractors (TMB 130ss, 152, 175; SV90, etc) and currently operate a home observatory (homedome 10, paramount ME, RCOS 14.5 f/8). These days I spend most of my time doing CCD astronomy. However, I have been looking for a “grab and go” scope for visual and also be used for some DLSR photography. I have no affiliation with Meade.

Initial reaction with the ETX-LS is very positive. I have placed some pictures of the scope, packaging, and assembly in this posting. I was very impressed with the packaging – all extremely well done. Everything arrived as expected in excellent condition – a big improvement in previous Meade scopes. Assembly took less than 20 mins – again, good instructions by Meade. The optics had no visible flaws.

I then carried the ETX outside and placed on fairly level ground. I inserted the batteries and turned the LS. The scope went through a series of alignments (finding north, horizontal level, etc) – it then did a 2 star alignment using the built in CCD camera and the LS automatic procedure software – again all went well. The entire alignment process took less than 20 min and there was no action required on the user (me) part – I just looked on and drank my coffee.

I then slewed to Saturn – looked very good using my 22 mm TV eyepiece. Saturn looked sharp. I then slewed to a star and checked the optical alignment – the scope was spot on – required no adjustment – very nice!

The in/out-of -focus star image and diffraction pattern looked good. Even with sky conditions of 6/10 – the in-focus diffraction pattern showed good correction. In addition, the scope did not need any alignment adjustment.
I then slewed to other objects (M13, M81/82, etc) – again, the optics and goto performed surprising well. The field was flat and stars looked good to the very edge of the field.

Bottom-line: Meade’s ETX-LS ACF appears to deliver as advertised – but more nights under the stars are still needed.

Pros: Excellent packaging, easy assembly, attractive with clean optics, good mechanical feel and fit, goto electronics worked out of the box, one person can manage transportation and setup, good instructions

Cons: cheap finder, there appears to be no way to manual move the scope, battery compartment is flimsy, should include 12v source, the 1.25" eyepiece holder in the rear cell thread is also flimsy – should include 2” eyepiece holder.

Jason

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
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drprovi57
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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173392 - 06/20/09 03:42 PM Attachment (325 downloads)

picture 2

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173396 - 06/20/09 03:43 PM Attachment (256 downloads)

arrival

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173398 - 06/20/09 03:43 PM Attachment (196 downloads)

Packaging

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173403 - 06/20/09 03:46 PM Attachment (213 downloads)

box opened

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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drprovi57
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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173406 - 06/20/09 03:47 PM Attachment (240 downloads)

All the parts

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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drprovi57
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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173408 - 06/20/09 03:48 PM Attachment (186 downloads)

Tripod

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173409 - 06/20/09 03:48 PM Attachment (275 downloads)

The important end

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173446 - 06/20/09 04:20 PM

good pictures, sounds good, looks like we will be hearing alot more about the LS soon

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3173451 - 06/20/09 04:21 PM

Superb write-up, Jason. Thanks for sharing that and the pictures too.

Hope that the skies clear up for you and that you are able to put the scope through its paces with decent seeing.

Welcome to the ETX forum BTW


Art

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: Arthur Dent]
      #3173596 - 06/20/09 06:22 PM

Just curious--- based on the new LX90 reports of the 59Ef hand controller on those scopes-- is the version number on your hand controller 59Ef ??? Just wondering if it's the same hand controller as the new LX90s??

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drprovi57
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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: Arthur Dent]
      #3173609 - 06/20/09 06:38 PM

Thanks Art, skies have not been very good - I am looking forward to use the LS more soon

Jason

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: Joe Lalumia]
      #3173612 - 06/20/09 06:40 PM

Joe - I do not believe they are the same - the version numbers appear different, but Meade should be able to provide the answer

Jason

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3174088 - 06/21/09 02:26 AM

looks good so far do provide an update when you get the chance...how heavy is it ?

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: seeker372011]
      #3174296 - 06/21/09 09:36 AM

Had the ETX last night before the clouds moved in - as before, I set up the ETX on my patio (away from my house) - I turned it on and walked away - I came back in 15 min and the scope was ready for use. I went to guided tour (best objects) and spent the next hour looking at about a dozen objects (M13, M57, M51, M92, saturn, etc) - all worked like a charm. Objects were within my 22mm TV eyepiece. I also attached my heavy 2" TV diagonal and 2" eyepiece - all worked great. The scope did a nice job of tracking as well - I hope to attach my DSLR soon to try some short exposure AP imaging.

The weight is about 50 lbs including tripod - I can move the entire set up from my house to the patio - will get exact weight later

Jason

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Jason
Lovettsville, VA US
[url=http://homepage.mac.com/jprovi57/Jason_Astro_Images/[/url]

RC 14.5"
TMB 130SS
TMB 92SS L
Meade 6" ETX-LS ACF
iOptron Tower
Paramount ME
SBIG STL11000
10' Homedome


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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: drprovi57]
      #3174571 - 06/21/09 12:42 PM

It would be really nice to see some images taken with the LS.

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: Theninjagecko]
      #3175229 - 06/21/09 08:23 PM

well short exposure should work fine..long..it need a wedge and still there arent many acesories made for LS right now

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: AlexDJ30]
      #3175438 - 06/21/09 10:38 PM

Does it take 15-20 minutes to align this scope? Seems like a long time.

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: teskridg]
      #3175642 - 06/22/09 01:01 AM

That does sound odd. When I saw the prototype at Woodland Hills, the Meade rep claimed that alignment takes only a couple of minutes. But then he also said only one version of the LS would be coming out. Then, a couple of months later, Meade announced two versions, one with ACF and the other a basic SCT.

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Re: ETX-LS ACF First Light new [Re: Starlighter]
      #3175851 - 06/22/09 07:08 AM

15 to 20 minutes. I can align my 6se in under 5 minutes and I'm never in any hurry.
Instead of the job being done at the flick of the L.S, it seems to be a case of the job just beginning to be done.
That said, I hope the ETX-LS is a success. I think a healthy Meade is better all round for amateur astronomy in general.

Peter.

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