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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5540271 - 11/26/12 01:01 PM

On other Hyperions, I found that a ring spanner like this was a great help

Ebay UK Lens Ring Spanner


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5540364 - 11/26/12 02:00 PM

Usefull information!Thanks!
BTW i am the only one that has a twist-eyecup too-loose-problem that you can't practically observe with it,but i have to use the rubber eyecup that came with it?

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Grandpa Jim]
      #5540938 - 11/26/12 08:02 PM

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I'm sure it must seem redundant to those that are experienced, but it WOULD be nice if manufacturers would put in even a simple "exploded drawing", so that a guy could see how some of this works.......................




Agree, a simple instruction sheet with an exploded view would be helpful and hope that Baader is listening here.

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5541102 - 11/26/12 09:36 PM

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Hernando, funny how few people now about this barlow. I found out from you and like you mentioned, it's small size and performance is hard to beat. It's another reason I love my Hyperion zoom.







That's right Bill, the Baader 2.25x barlow seems to be a well kept secret. Well, they're missing out on a good barlow option - it's sharp, compact, versatile, easy to use, and as you've said too, performance is hard to beat. Just a conjecture here - the usual notion of a barlow is that it's big with a hallow cavity to insert the EP snout into, but that's not the case with this small-profile barlow so just maybe, some might be thinking - nah, that's not a "proper" barlow. Furthermore, many are not aware that the barlow can actually be used not only with the zoom but with regular 1-1/4" EP's too by simply screwing it onto the EP's filter thread. Wait 'till they get to actually try one out.

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Tim D
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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: ibase]
      #5541259 - 11/26/12 11:06 PM

Hernando,
I own a TV 1.25 2X Barlow that I use with my Hyperion Zoom. Would the Baader 2.25X barlow be a better fit? It looks like they stick out from the focuser just about the same.
Tim


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: cjc]
      #5541441 - 11/27/12 01:35 AM

Quote:

On other Hyperions, I found that a ring spanner like this was a great help

Ebay UK Lens Ring Spanner




Nice tool; the old vice grip can also surely unscrew any stubborn nosepiece (just make sure several layers of protective cloth are wound around the sleeve before engaging the grip to prevent any marring).

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: gregory93]
      #5541455 - 11/27/12 01:58 AM

Quote:

Usefull information!Thanks!
BTW i am the only one that has a twist-eyecup too-loose-problem that you can't practically observe with it,but i have to use the rubber eyecup that came with it?

Regards




Hi, twist-eyecup too loose? In what way? Below are the twist-ups on both the Mark III (right) and the previous Hyperion zoom (left) version with helical eyecups fully extended. How different is the one on yours compared to these two which are both buttery smooth when going up or down?



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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Tim D]
      #5541473 - 11/27/12 02:56 AM

Quote:

Hernando,
I own a TV 1.25 2X Barlow that I use with my Hyperion Zoom. Would the Baader 2.25X barlow be a better fit? It looks like they stick out from the focuser just about the same.
Tim




Tim, yes, you can say that the Baader 2.25x barlow is a better fit, with a shorter overall profile compared to using the TV 1.25" 2x barlow as shown in the pics below:


Top - BH zoom w/ Baader 2.25x barlow screwed-on to the zoom's filter thread; Bottom - BH zoom w/Televue 1.25" 2x barlow

For scaling perspective and size comparison, below is a side-by-side of the Baader 2.25x barlow and Televue's 1.25" 3x barlow:



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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Grandpa Jim]
      #5541727 - 11/27/12 09:32 AM

Quote:

I'm sure it must seem redundant to those that are experienced, but it WOULD be nice if manufacturers would put in even a simple "exploded drawing", so that a guy could see how some of this works.......................




Actually, there is a set of instructions on the AlpineAstro site. Here's a direct link.


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: DaveJ]
      #5541741 - 11/27/12 09:42 AM

Quote:

Quote:

I'm sure it must seem redundant to those that are experienced, but it WOULD be nice if manufacturers would put in even a simple "exploded drawing", so that a guy could see how some of this works.......................




Actually, there is a set of instructions on the AlpineAstro site. Here's a direct link.




Thing is, that pdf link doesn't show how to convert the zoom from 2" to 1-1/4" or vice versa, or what to watch out for in doing the conversion. Like showing the connector & knurled ring in a simple exploded view as suggested by Jim should do the trick.

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: ibase]
      #5542175 - 11/27/12 01:47 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Usefull information!Thanks!
BTW i am the only one that has a twist-eyecup too-loose-problem that you can't practically observe with it,but i have to use the rubber eyecup that came with it?

Regards




Hi, twist-eyecup too loose? In what way? Below are the twist-ups on both the Mark III (right) and the previous Hyperion zoom (left) version with helical eyecups fully extended. How different is the one on yours compared to these two which are both buttery smooth when going up or down?



Best,



I have the mark III.
My twist eyecup is loose enough,in a way that i cannot keep it in place,whenever i gently place my eye on it.I think the twist-eyecup-ring is a little bigger than supposed...I am using for several months the other rubber eyecup so i am used to it ,but thought asking if anyone has dealt with a similar problem.As i said you cant practically observe with this twist eyecup.


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5542609 - 11/27/12 06:40 PM

With the 2.25 Barlow attached can the zoom be set to fit in both 1.25 and 2 inch focusers without any other change?

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Warren914]
      #5542642 - 11/27/12 07:03 PM

I just leave mine in 1.25" mode and use an adapter in the focuser, as I have 2" & 1.25" oculars. Simplifies things.

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Bill Cowles
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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: SKYGZR]
      #5542830 - 11/27/12 09:11 PM

I just use mine in 1.25, but it's hard to reach focus, that's why I have a recessed adapt., with a standard 1.25 adapt. can't reach focus.

Bill


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: gregory93]
      #5542862 - 11/27/12 09:28 PM

Quote:


I have the mark III.
My twist eyecup is loose enough,in a way that i cannot keep it in place,whenever i gently place my eye on it.I think the twist-eyecup-ring is a little bigger than supposed...I am using for several months the other rubber eyecup so i am used to it ,but thought asking if anyone has dealt with a similar problem.As i said you cant practically observe with this twist eyecup.




First time I've heard of loose rubber twist-eyecup on the zoom, it might belong to some other unit as my 2 zooms' eyecups both have a snug fit. If it were mine, will get in touch with the vendor and have it replaced, just pluck it out of the zoom, it would be easy to mail.

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Tim D
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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5542890 - 11/27/12 09:40 PM

Hernando,
Thanks for the reply and the pics- I believe I will stick with the TV 2X barlow for now. It looks like there is not much of a difference in length in the two when you compare the space between the focuser and the bottom of the zoom. There is however a huge difference in the length in the barlows on the end that fits in the focuser. Once again thanks!
Tim


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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Tim D]
      #5542975 - 11/27/12 10:26 PM

Tim, you're most welcome!

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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: Warren914]
      #5543011 - 11/27/12 10:46 PM

Quote:

With the 2.25 Barlow attached can the zoom be set to fit in both 1.25 and 2 inch focusers without any other change?




You'll have to use a 2" adapter; mine's the Antares twist-lock adapter which works very well, no setscrews to fiddle with.



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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: ibase]
      #5544065 - 11/28/12 03:18 PM

A penumblar lunar eclipse was visible here tonight and I used the 8mm setting of the Hyperion zoom to take a shot of the eclipse at its peak,
the photo published in blog/Spaceweather.com


Lunar eclipse of Nov. 28, 2012; WO 66mm ED scope, Hyperion zoom @8mm (48x),
single afocal hand-held shot thru Kodak Easyshare digicam in macro mode

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gregory93
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Re: Baader Hyperion 8-24mm zoom - 1-1/4 inch nosepiece new [Re: ibase]
      #5545027 - 11/29/12 07:06 AM

Excellent Hernando!!
Well done!


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