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Eddgie
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Re: Floaters new [Re: faackanders2]
      #5538966 - 11/25/12 03:27 PM

I do not at all dispute what you say. I have been observing for 40 years and have owned 40 or so telescopes and dozens and dozens of eyepieces, and of course I know that I am loosing a bit of brightness with the Binoviewers.

But I like the view better.

A year ago, I would not have wanted to believe that binoviewing could be more enjoyable, but now I find much less joy in mono-viewing.

Is the view "better" in mono? Maybe for you, but no longer for me. I don't think I could go back now.


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DaveJ
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Eddgie]
      #5539055 - 11/25/12 04:31 PM

Quote:

Is the view "better" in mono? Maybe for you, but no longer for me. I don't think I could go back now.




A big giant +1


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sopticals
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Re: Floaters new [Re: pogobbler]
      #5539258 - 11/25/12 06:57 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I know the advantages of using a binoviewer, but if one sees floaters when not using any optical aid, why shouldn't see them with a binoviewer?




To me, floaters are a great justification for binoviewing and for using a large aperture, as well, which would give a larger exit pupil for a given magnification as compared to a smaller aperture.




Absolutely true.


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Sarkikos
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Re: Floaters new [Re: sopticals]
      #5539313 - 11/25/12 07:40 PM

My personal preference is to binoview only the Moon and bright planets. For deep sky, I use three types of eyepiece: Baader Hyperion Zoom for most objects, to dial in the optimum image scale and perceived contrast; wide fields for the big stuff or large groupings of objects; mostly orthos and such for the really faint fuzzies. But the Baader Zoom is in the focuser most of the time.

I don't binoview deep sky. I've never seen floaters when observing anything other than the Moon and bright planets. For me, binoviewing DSO dims the image too much. But that can be a good thing when looking at planets and the Moon.

Mike


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Ed D
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #5539964 - 11/26/12 09:12 AM

+1 for binoviewers mitigating floaters, especially for planetary and lunar.

Ed D


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Bill Cowles
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Mirzam]
      #5540100 - 11/26/12 11:02 AM

I always use my bino's when viewing the Sun, then floaters are no longer a problem for me.

Bill


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Wol
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5540104 - 11/26/12 11:04 AM

I believe you can have the goo in your eye sucked out and replaced. I have awful floaters and that was put to me as an option YMMV

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Starman1
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Wol]
      #5540123 - 11/26/12 11:10 AM

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I believe you can have the goo in your eye sucked out and replaced. I have awful floaters and that was put to me as an option YMMV



But, as has already been mentioned, that results in quick onset of cataracts, and can cause retinal detachment or tearing. It would only be an option for whom floaters resulted in disabling vision.
My wife had vitreous detachment that fortunately did not result in retinal separation, but she has a gauzy, cloudy vision in her field of view from about 25 degrees off axis out. She investigated vitrectomy and thought the risk too high.


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Sarkikos
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Starman1]
      #5540129 - 11/26/12 11:13 AM

At the present state of medicine, sounds like it's best to just leave the floaters alone.

Mike


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Bill Cowles
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Wol]
      #5540257 - 11/26/12 12:45 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

My floater remover.

Bill


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Shneor
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Bill Cowles]
      #5540438 - 11/26/12 02:40 PM

I don't have floaters. For the past 35 years I have always worn sunglasses when outdoors, even when its cloudy. I also eat lots of leafy greens. I've had cataract surgery in my left (non-dominant) eye, and I expect to have cataract surgery on my right eye in a few years. But no floaters, no matter what the exit pupil. FWIW, there's a supplement called Ocuvite that's supposed to help maintain the vitreous fluid.

Clears,


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kkokkolis
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Shneor]
      #5540452 - 11/26/12 02:49 PM

We have a saying here: quard it as if it was your eyes. I believe this is valid for eyes too. Don't mess with them. Buy binovewers or pursue bigger exit pupils. It costs less than ophthalmic surgery, it has less complications and unwanted effects and it is a fully reversible procedure.

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Bill Cowles
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Re: Floaters new [Re: kkokkolis]
      #5540475 - 11/26/12 03:08 PM



Bill


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Wol
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Starman1]
      #5541404 - 11/27/12 12:36 AM

Yes, its a risk. Although cataracts in this country at least, mean free eyelens replacement surgery and correction, so maybe you get a win!

regards


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kkokkolis
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Re: Floaters new [Re: Wol]
      #5541947 - 11/27/12 11:49 AM

Yes, but floaters reside in the vitreous humour, not the eye's lens. So they aren't cleaned after eyelens replacement surgery.

http://hooptometrist.files.wordpress.com/2011/11/eyes_floaters_sm.jpg


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Wol
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Re: Floaters new [Re: kkokkolis]
      #5546732 - 11/30/12 07:29 AM

Yes indeed, I didn't mean to suggest otherwise, only that if you then developed cataracts you might be lucky enough to get some serious correction done for that astigmatism and short-sigtedness! YMMV

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