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Sarkikos
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5557979 - 12/06/12 05:50 PM
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Mike B,
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IME, APers and visual observers don't mix very well.
No "us" and/or "them" mindset with these guys. We have a blast! 
Your APers must have had better training. The ones I've seen love white lights and laptops with no red filter.
Mike
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Sarkikos
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5557983 - 12/06/12 05:52 PM
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Mike B,
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I try to do what makes sense.
Well, keep trying. It'll come.
 
Believe me ... I can be very trying!
Mike
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Mike B
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5557988 - 12/06/12 05:53 PM
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They use Kendrick "Observatory" tents. And even so, they're pretty good about maintaining low ambient lighting... they need their night-vision for when, during an exposure, they come wandering over to my Dob to take a peek!
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Dick Jacobson
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5558925 - 12/07/12 09:50 AM
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I was skeptical about the need for a 100° eyepiece until I purchased one. Now I'm hooked! If an 82° field is like looking out the window of a spaceship, a 100° field is like a domed window. You get a feeling of immersion in space when you can barely see the edge of the field. This is one of the chief reasons I prefer visual observing over just looking at images on monitors. I use other eyepieces with fields from 68° to 82° and they are okay, but I find myself spending most of my time looking through the two 100° eyepieces that I now own (ES 9 and ES 14). A few great eyepieces are better than a whole box full of second-rate ones.
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Mike B
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5559235 - 12/07/12 12:39 PM
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A few great eyepieces are better than a whole box full of second-rate ones.
This is what's known as a "true fact"!
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I was skeptical about the need for a 100° eyepiece until I purchased one. Now I'm hooked!
Kool. But whatever else ya do, do NOT look thru a binoviewer... lest you develop THAT addiction, as well.
It's already too late for some of us...
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dscarpa
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5559253 - 12/07/12 12:54 PM
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I don't think you can sort eyepieces as excellent or second rate on the basis of FOV alone. It's image quality that matters to me. I like my 13 Ethos and 20 ES100 a lot but using them back to back with my 42*-82* eyepieces doesn't lessen my enjoyment of the narrower FOV ones. None of my mounts are powered. David
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Dick Jacobson
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5559638 - 12/07/12 05:22 PM
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But whatever else ya do, do NOT look thru a binoviewer... lest you develop THAT addiction, as well.
It's too late, I already own a binoviewer. I'm addicted to things in my focuser that weigh 2-3 pounds. So far I've resisted the temptation to binoview with 100° eyepieces.
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Messyone
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5560286 - 12/08/12 01:24 AM
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Too late for me and bino viewing too... glad to say  I recall someone saying all you need is a 9mm 14mm 20mm 100* eyepieces and a 2X barlow and you have all you'll ever need.
On the other hand I've never regretted selling a Pentax 10 XW and getting 3 ES 82's in its place.
One 100*.... only two to go?
Matt
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Starman1
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5560302 - 12/08/12 01:36 AM
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Too late for me and bino viewing too... glad to say I recall someone saying all you need is a 9mm 14mm 20mm 100* eyepieces and a 2X barlow and you have all you'll ever need.
On the other hand I've never regretted selling a Pentax 10 XW and getting 3 ES 82's in its place.
One 100*.... only two to go?
Matt
Alas, 100 degree eyepieces come in a lot of focal lengths now.
You can get 3.7, 4.7, 6, 8, 10, 13, 17, and 21 from TeleVue
You can get 9, 14, 20 from ES, and soon 25mm and 5.5mm.
You can get 9 and 16 from Orion, Agena, or Zhumell (telescopes.com)
You can get 9, 14, and 20 from Meade.
So, one 100 degree eyepiece, how many to go?
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Messyone
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Re: 82 vs 100 EP's
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#5560317 - 12/08/12 01:46 AM
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So many...so little cash 
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