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Lancem
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Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability
      #6015331 - 08/09/13 08:57 AM

I would like to purchase the 14mm ES 100. They are out of stock on the ES website. Has anyone out there purchased one recently? Any idea of possible wait times? Is it best to place an order directly with ES?
Thanks


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csrlice12
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Lancem]
      #6015346 - 08/09/13 09:06 AM

I bought the 14 a little over a month ago, the 9mm has been on b/o since then though. You might get it a little quicker directly from ES, but you might get lucky and find a vendor somewhere distant with one in stock.

Me, personally, while not adverse from ordering eyepieces online, mostly buy from the local telescope shop. We are lucky enough to have one in Denver, and I want to ensure it stays in business. I still get it at the same price (there is tax however), but on many occasions, there is also no waiting....I got the 14mm by walking in the door.....they were out of stock on the 9mm.


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wags1
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: csrlice12]
      #6015969 - 08/09/13 02:26 PM

Pretty much all of the on-line sites are out of stock of the ES 14/100 at this point. I think I grabbed the last one from Agena Astro.

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Scanning4Comets
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: wags1]
      #6016051 - 08/09/13 03:10 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

I got mine used , but in excellent condition! (Both the 14mm and 9mm ES 100's). Now I am just waiting on the 30mm ES 82 to arrive in about a week.

Still loving them in my scope


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bremms
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6016189 - 08/09/13 04:28 PM

Bought mine used in perfect condition. Saved $90 too. Beast of an EP. Heavy

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csrlice12
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: bremms]
      #6016211 - 08/09/13 04:48 PM

What was really weird is that my 14mm is a new one with the pretty box, but the 20mm, which was ordered thru ES from the scope shop about a week later, was the older, N2 purged in the dark box. Doesn't matter to me though, as the N2/Ar purging doesn't affect how the eyepiece works. They are both fantastic eyepieces.....Now I'm waiting for the 9mm to come in....

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TechPan6415
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: csrlice12]
      #6016243 - 08/09/13 05:10 PM

It's well worth the wait, out of all my eyepieces, the 14mm 100 is by far my favorite.

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Jarrod
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: TechPan6415]
      #6016255 - 08/09/13 05:20 PM

Bought mine used. Bought the 9 and 20mm new from Astronomics - both were in stock. This was in June.

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Starman1
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Lancem]
      #6016316 - 08/09/13 06:12 PM

Quote:

I would like to purchase the 14mm ES 100. They are out of stock on the ES website. Has anyone out there purchased one recently? Any idea of possible wait times? Is it best to place an order directly with ES?
Thanks



They are out of stock at ES, so dealers and ES are waiting for them.


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Rick Woods
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Starman1]
      #6016796 - 08/09/13 11:16 PM

Are there any in stock at EyepiecesEtc.com?

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Scanning4Comets
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6017129 - 08/10/13 07:54 AM

EXPLORE SCIENTIFIC 9-ELEMENT 14MM 100° 9-ELEMENT AR PURGED WP EYEPIECE-2"
Usually Ships in 24 Hours
List Price: $499.99
Our Price: $374.99
2013 Summer Comet Watch Sale $299.99
Savings: $200.00
(Out of Stock)

Took me two whole clicks to find out. It's really easy to do! Takes a few seconds!


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csrlice12
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6017418 - 08/10/13 11:21 AM

Oddly enough, about one month ago I got mine by walking into the store...think I got their last one though....waiting on the 9 now....

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Rick Woods
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6017766 - 08/10/13 03:04 PM

Quote:

EXPLORE SCIENTIFIC 9-ELEMENT 14MM 100° 9-ELEMENT AR PURGED WP EYEPIECE-2"
Usually Ships in 24 Hours
List Price: $499.99
Our Price: $374.99
2013 Summer Comet Watch Sale $299.99
Savings: $200.00
(Out of Stock)

Took me two whole clicks to find out. It's really easy to do! Takes a few seconds!




Not for me! I'm on a 56K dialup line; it would have taken about 5 minutes. I'd still have done it, though, except I've already got one so I wasn't that interested.


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Scanning4Comets
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6018153 - 08/10/13 07:41 PM

Dial up? You aren't serious are you? I didn't know it still existed, Brandons.....supposedly the best according to you...Plus you already own a 14mm ES 100....and you have "dial up"...LOOL !!!!

C'mon Ricky-Poo....Watcha doin there?

Just razzin ya Rick! Have a great weekend and clear skies!




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ibase
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6018371 - 08/10/13 11:46 PM

Out-of-stock status must mean a healthy dose of demand for the 14mm ES-100's, glad to already have one on hand, great EP!


ES-100 14mm

Best,


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Rick Woods
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6019264 - 08/11/13 03:38 PM

Quote:

Dial up? You aren't serious are you? I didn't know it still existed, Brandons.....supposedly the best according to you...Plus you already own a 14mm ES 100....and you have "dial up"...LOOL !!!!

C'mon Ricky-Poo....Watcha doin there?

Just razzin ya Rick! Have a great weekend and clear skies!







Hey, I put my money into the important things (like eyepieces). Fast internet access is *way* down on my "important" list. Seems like you have to get cable TV with the package, and TV is even lower on the list! (Like, close to last.)
If I need fast web access, I go to the library (about a mile away).


PS: "LOOL"?

And: All I ever said was Brandons are the best I've ever used. Not my fault that many others, far more knowledgable than I, consider them to be the best.
(But, who am I to argue with them? )


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tonyt
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: ibase]
      #6019504 - 08/11/13 06:52 PM

Quote:

Out-of-stock status must mean a healthy dose of demand for the 14mm ES-100's,
Quote:



.... or perhaps ES is running stock down prior to releasing the non-recessed eyelens version in the next production run

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ibase
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: tonyt]
      #6019818 - 08/11/13 10:07 PM

New EP versions are something to look forward to but the slight eye lens recess on the ES-100 is not so much of an issue, at least to my eye. Worth re-tooling? - only ES can answer as to what happens next.

Best,


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dc_robert
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: ibase]
      #6038893 - 08/21/13 06:24 PM Attachment (6 downloads)

I was able to find one of these in about ten minutes of internet sleuthing.

http://handsonoptics.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_136_138...

I actually located the EP on this vendor's Ebay site, which showed 3 available. Checked their website and it indicated available as well.

Both sites show it as the Nitrogen-purged version. In fact, it's the Argon-purged version (which apparently only makes a difference if you plan to re-sell it).

How do I know this?


Edited by dc_robert (08/21/13 06:24 PM)


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Pollux556
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: dc_robert]
      #6038895 - 08/21/13 06:26 PM

Quote:


Both sites show it as the Nitrogen-purged version. In fact, it's the Argon-purged version (which apparently only makes a difference if you plan to re-sell it).

How do I know this?






Interesting, why ?


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dc_robert
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Pollux556]
      #6038913 - 08/21/13 06:36 PM

Quote:

Quote:


Both sites show it as the Nitrogen-purged version. In fact, it's the Argon-purged version (which apparently only makes a difference if you plan to re-sell it).

How do I know this?






Interesting, why ?




In this thread which discusses the differences between nitrogen and argon purging, someone made the comment that, "I have been attempting to sell several of my ES eyepieces. I have had a number of interested potential buyers willing to pay my asking price until they realized that the eyepieces are the "OLD" and therefore somehow "INFERIOR" N2 purged variety. Then no longer interested."

Besides the consensus of the discussion participants that there was no practical difference between the two purging methods, I also learned that EPs can pass gas.


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Scanning4Comets
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: dc_robert]
      #6038923 - 08/21/13 06:40 PM Attachment (15 downloads)

I got mine last Saturday from the same place!

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Phillip Creed
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6038981 - 08/21/13 07:04 PM

I can understand why there might be shortages of the 14ES-100. I tested one thoroughly against the venerable 13mm Ethos. Other than less usable eye relief on the 14ES-100, I thought it was a toss-up in an un-Paracorr'ed 8" f/4.9 reflector. I wish I didn't have to wear glasses for myopia+astigmatism, because the 14ES-100 would definitely by my "cold-dead-hands" eyepiece.

Clear Skies,
Phil


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dc_robert
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Phillip Creed]
      #6039015 - 08/21/13 07:28 PM

I have the same condition as you, but the contacts I wear correct some of it. So the lower eye relief is actually a plus for me. Besides, most folks at outreach events I noticed have either good or corrected vision as well, so they can look through the EPs and not have to fiddle with the focus once I've done it.

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Pollux556
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: dc_robert]
      #6039302 - 08/21/13 10:33 PM

Quote:




In this thread which discusses the differences between nitrogen and argon purging, someone made the comment that, "I have been attempting to sell several of my ES eyepieces. I have had a number of interested potential buyers willing to pay my asking price until they realized that the eyepieces are the "OLD" and therefore somehow "INFERIOR" N2 purged variety. Then no longer interested."

Besides the consensus of the discussion participants that there was no practical difference between the two purging methods, I also learned that EPs can pass gas.




Thanks ! I will re-read it.


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Rick Woods
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Pollux556]
      #6040810 - 08/22/13 09:22 PM

The older ES boxes are actually better than the fancy new ones. Sturdier, and the inside packing comes out nicely (or stays in) to fit into an eyepiece case. The newer boxes are flimsier and not as versatile. (They are pretty, though.)

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Pollux556
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #6041358 - 08/23/13 07:53 AM

Quote:

The older ES boxes are actually better than the fancy new ones. Sturdier, and the inside packing comes out nicely (or stays in) to fit into an eyepiece case. The newer boxes are flimsier and not as versatile. (They are pretty, though.)




Good to know. So the best thing is the newer EP in the older box.


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csrlice12
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Pollux556]
      #6041384 - 08/23/13 08:13 AM

Have to agree about the boxes, those older dark boxes were sturdy, the new ones are pretty, but if the box tipped (i.e. slides across your car seat as you make that Mario Andretti turn), or it's turned upside down, that flap isn't going to hold the contents in.........tis pretty though.

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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: csrlice12]
      #6041433 - 08/23/13 08:49 AM

To my eyes the 14ES100 is an excellent ocular - but a 13Ethos it ain't! The pincushion reminds me of a Type 5 Nagler (between a 26T5 and a 31T5) with a significantly larger AFoV. Unlike the Ethos it has a pale cola tint (I'm not a coffee drinker), but I still enjoy the extremely well corrected FoV.

IMHO, comparing and using the ES100s and Ethoi in <f/5 Newtonians without a Paracorr is ignoring half the benefit of such well corrected eyepieces. Coma is proportional to AFoV and you don't have to hide the astigmatism anymore!


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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Lamb0]
      #6042031 - 08/23/13 03:02 PM

Two observing friends I know did a comparo between the 14mm ES 100 and a 13mm TV Ethos. They both agreed that it was easier to view through the 14mm ES 100!

I can't remember exactly what it was they liked better, but I asked last night and one of them said that the 14mm ES 100° had more comfort IIRC. He did say that the 13mm Ethos had better edge correction and it was sharper in the center....so it appears it was just a "comfort" thing, and not optical. From a lot of reports here however, people say the 13mm Ethos is overall better because it has just the right amount of eye relief for eyeglass wearers and the top eye lens is not recessed like the 14mm ES 100 is.

Apparently ES will eventually stop recessing their top eyelenses in the future....let's just say a little bird told me !!!!

I'd love to check out the 13mm Ethos myself even though I did have a peek through it, at the time it was a new thing to me and my memory of looking through it is lost.

Either way, I am really liking the 14mm ES 100, and I can't afford to buy Ethos eyepieces.


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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: Scanning4Comets]
      #6042050 - 08/23/13 03:15 PM

Never used them side by side. My 14mm 100 deg ES cost 1/3 of an Ethos I'm not expecting a perfect EP. If I want superb CFOV sharpness and very little I'll get out some Brandons.
In my longer focus scopes a Zeiss Huygens is a really good EP. The ES 14 is a great EP for the price. It weighs a ton though. Love it when you see one on the back of a 80mm or smaller APO.


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Starman1
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Re: Explore Scientific 14mm 100 availability new [Re: bremms]
      #6042065 - 08/23/13 03:27 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

Quote:

Never used them side by side. My 14mm 100 deg ES cost 1/3 of an Ethos I'm not expecting a perfect EP. If I want superb CFOV sharpness and very little I'll get out some Brandons.
In my longer focus scopes a Zeiss Huygens is a really good EP. The ES 14 is a great EP for the price. It weighs a ton though. Love it when you see one on the back of a 80mm or smaller APO.



Or a 31 Nagler. Eek!
A few years ago, I did a test report on a William Optics 80mm refractor designed to use binoviewers. It was shortened and the length of the back end was almost equally as long as the scope--it looked like a "V".
I attach an image. In contrast, a 14x100 ES would seem small .


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