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Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all) AstroBobo sage Reged: 07/04/07 Loc: Zagreb, Croatia Films for astrophotography       #2140072 - 01/23/08 11:23 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think we should make a sticky thread (or whatever it is called) about films for astrophotography as this is definitely the most common question here. I recently discovered Robert Reeves' website and his test of various b&w, negative and diapositive films, so here are the links to anyone interested: B&W films Color negative films Slide films Also, it would be nice if some of you could reply here and write your experiences with various films. Personally I found Kodak E200 to have the best red response (I have also push-developed it with success) and Provia 400F for everything else. Post Extras:       microbes Pooh-Bah Reged: 12/12/04 Loc: Romulus, Sector 12 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: AstroBobo]       #2140560 - 01/23/08 03:58 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Your link for color negative films lists Fuji Superia X-tra 800 speed as the best color negative film. I have tryed several different color negative films and would have to agree, it has the both the best red response and the lowest reciprocity failure. It isn't as good as some of the slide films (like E200), but it's worlds better than stuff like T-max. Post Extras:       Mopman sage Reged: 10/14/06 Loc: Richland, WA, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: microbes]       #2141690 - 01/24/08 01:23 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Here is another film link ... Thanks, Mopman http://www.astropix.com/HTML/I_ASTROP/FILM/FILMS.HTM Post Extras:       Suk Lee Post Laureate Reged: 10/07/03 Loc: Pleasanton, CA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Mopman]       #2141777 - 01/24/08 03:36 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Now sticky! Post Extras:       AstroBobo sage Reged: 07/04/07 Loc: Zagreb, Croatia Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Suk Lee]       #2142126 - 01/24/08 10:11 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks Suk! Post Extras:       Hambone sage Reged: 10/10/05 Loc: Martin, TN Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: AstroBobo]       #2143521 - 01/24/08 08:54 PM Attachment (350 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Fuji Super HQ 400 negative film and Fujichrome HQ 400 slide film has decent red response. They are also easier to find than the good stuff. Here are some examples of HQ 400. This is a Prime Focus, 30 minute unprocessed shot of The North American Nebula using a 8" SVP with a Olympus OM-1 and 200mm lens at F 4.5 Post Extras:       Hambone sage Reged: 10/10/05 Loc: Martin, TN Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Hambone]       #2143534 - 01/24/08 08:59 PM Attachment (359 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Here is another shot the same as above but using Fujichrome Super HQ 400 slide film, 20 minutes,(I think) and a 135mm lens. Edited by Hambone (01/24/08 09:04 PM) Post Extras:       stargazerken member Reged: 12/27/08 Loc: Fort Meade, Florida Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Hambone]       #2837014 - 01/01/09 04:49 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Anyone try Kodak Ultra Max? I picked up a roll of 400 speed, but clouds have stop any try at taking a shot. Thanks. Post Extras:       chgomonitor member Reged: 09/18/08 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #3182127 - 06/25/09 01:06 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   -Tried the Kodak Ultra Max at 800 speed. Bad grain and seemed to really fog up on me rather badly after about 30 seconds. Also had a definite green color cast. Switched to Fuji. Post Extras:       Matthew Ota Hmmm Reged: 04/30/05 Loc: IngleHood, California Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: chgomonitor]       #3236466 - 07/24/09 05:41 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   When I did film astrophotography I got great results using Kodak 400LE. It is their "Law Enforcement" film and it has great red response. I guess originally it was great for showing blood.... Post Extras:       Matthew Ota Hmmm Reged: 04/30/05 Loc: IngleHood, California Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Matthew Ota]       #3248829 - 07/31/09 01:34 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I found this print film on the web and I wonder if anybody here has tried it: Photo Evidence Film Post Extras:       M111 scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/28/06 Loc: Western MA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Matthew Ota]       #3248871 - 07/31/09 01:55 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Haven't tried it, but if it's good for blood maybe it's good for red emission nebulae too... Post Extras:       huckabuck professor emeritus Reged: 02/18/07 Loc: statesboro, ga Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: M111]       #3248930 - 07/31/09 02:26 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   if the shipping wasn't so ridiculas i'd give it a try Post Extras:       PaulEK sage Reged: 05/25/08 Loc: Wisconsin Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: AstroBobo]       #3262259 - 08/08/09 11:50 PM Attachment (244 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Here's a crop (about 60-70% of the frame) from the center of a shot I took a couple of years ago, using Fuji Provia 400f slide film. If my memory is correct, I took it using my Nikon F, with a 50mm f/1.4 lens set at f/2.8. I didn't take careful note to time the shot precisely because I took several of varying length, and this one turned out the best. but I think it was about 10 minutes. What I like about this film is that, though it doesn't record the reds as well as other films I've seen used, it is very sharp, with little grain, and it seems to have a low reciprocity failure rate. I've not done -- and wouldn't know how to do -- scientific comparisons, but I've taken astrophotos with my Mamiya RB67 (which I have not yet scanned to my satisfaction) that have lots and lots of very tiny stars on them! I have noticed that the film seems to show more purple than I think it should. Edited by PaulEK (08/09/09 12:03 AM) Post Extras:       PaulEK sage Reged: 05/25/08 Loc: Wisconsin Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: AstroBobo]       #3262273 - 08/09/09 12:00 AM Attachment (178 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Here's a much closer to 100% crop. And the more I think about it, the longer I think the exposure was. 15 minutes? Post Extras:       Saturnalia member Reged: 12/17/09 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: PaulEK]       #3546241 - 01/07/10 06:20 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   AstroBobo - the three links in your original first message here are not working. Any chance of fixing them...? Post Extras:       tommyhawk13 scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 09/28/07 Loc: Jacksonville, Fl Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Saturnalia]       #3561196 - 01/14/10 07:49 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Saturnalia, a lot has changed since the info on the links was posted. Fuji Provia 400F has been discontinued, and replaced by Provia 400X. It's an ok film, but it has poorer red response. Not bad, but not as good as the old stuff. Kodak E-200, Elite 200, or Ektachrome 200 is king right now. It picks up red (Hydrogen Alpha) like nobody's business. Even though it's rated at 200, it picks up photons faster than the 400 after only a few minutes. It suffers from reciprocity failure like any film, but not nearly as bad. Some say that it is as fast as the old hypered films. Both the Fuji and Kodak films are slide films. Hope this helps. Post Extras:       stargazerken member Reged: 12/27/08 Loc: Fort Meade, Florida Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: tommyhawk13]       #4302186 - 01/09/11 10:42 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Any leads on a good color print film for astrophotos? I do mainly CCD now, but would like to do wide field again. I have the equipment for slides, but just need to buy new chemicals for processing Post Extras:       Nightfly scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/20/07 Loc: Eastern Maine, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #4302782 - 01/09/11 03:22 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Kodak Gold 200 does a good job: Kodak Gold 200 Test- Milky Way by Nightfly Photography, on Flickr Post Extras:       stargazerken member Reged: 12/27/08 Loc: Fort Meade, Florida Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Nightfly]       #4303558 - 01/09/11 09:50 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks Nightfly; excellent photo! I will have to pick up a roll or two and get some pics done next dark period. Post Extras:       Starmon member Reged: 05/25/09 Loc: Front Range Northern Colorado Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Nightfly]       #4382077 - 02/12/11 08:55 PM Attachment (277 downloads) Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I agree Nightfly, but since I have a dark site to image at, I use 400 and have returned good results. But, I'm also looking for better film, so I'm going to try the Fuji Superia and the LE. I do enjoy capturing those red nebulae. Wide Field Southern Summer Sky at Keota Post Extras:       Geo. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/01/08 Loc: Upstate NY Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #4398751 - 02/20/11 08:09 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I'd stock up on Ektachrome if you like it. Kodak has stopped making it in sheet form. Anyone have experience with any of the Central European films Freestylephoto.biz imports? Post Extras:       Geo. Carpal Tunnel Reged: 10/01/08 Loc: Upstate NY Links for: Films for astrophotography [Re: microbes]       #4398758 - 02/20/11 08:14 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Try http://www.robertreeves.com/ Post Extras:       telletdl member Reged: 07/22/08 Loc: Alexandria, VA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #4412798 - 02/26/11 12:03 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Just scored two rolls of E200 (35mm) at my local camera store. So there is still some of it floating around out there. Post Extras:       Nightfly scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/20/07 Loc: Eastern Maine, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: telletdl]       #4413513 - 02/26/11 06:30 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   There is some E200, Elite Chrome 200, and even Provia 400F on the evil bay. I scored some fresh frozen 400F last month. Get it while you can. Post Extras:       NGC 4755 newbie Reged: 06/03/08 Loc: Queensland, Australia Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #5173465 - 04/15/12 10:42 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Ilford's HP5 is more red sensitive than any other. Try some! DEv. 8 mins in neat Microphen at 20C. Post Extras:       Nightfly scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/20/07 Loc: Eastern Maine, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: NGC 4755]       #5177704 - 04/17/12 10:06 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   My test of Kodak's T-Max 400. http://nightflyphotography.blogspot.com/2012/04/testing-kodaks-tmax-400-for.html Post Extras:       GaryS sage Reged: 10/30/06 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Nightfly]       #5178303 - 04/18/12 11:16 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi James: Have you had any experience with Fuji's Neopan 100 Acros? The spec sheet claims some pretty impressive reciprocity characteristics -- only 1/2 stop loss for 1000 seconds (16 minutes). Gary Post Extras:       Nightfly scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/20/07 Loc: Eastern Maine, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: GaryS]       #5178435 - 04/18/12 12:51 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi Gary, Sure thing. I have been working with Acros for some time now and it is a suberb film. It is not a great H-alpha film, but it is a strong recorder of starlight. Here is a sample: http://www.flickr.com/photos/12598495@N08/sets/72157622491249838/detail/ Two of the frames in the above gallery have been selected for the Starstruck exhibit. I hope you get a chance to see the exhibit. http://www.bates.edu/museum/exhibitions/upcoming/starstruck/ James Post Extras:       GaryS sage Reged: 10/30/06 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Nightfly]       #5178814 - 04/18/12 04:05 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi James: Thanks for the photos -- really great stuff. I think I've seen these before, but somehow didn't notice they were shot with Acros. One last question, while on the topic, what is your view of push processing the Acros. It doesn't seem like you've done so, but I wondered if there was a reason. Congrats on getting into the Starstruck exhibit. It's a distinction that's well earned! Gary Post Extras:       Nightfly scholastic sledgehammer Reged: 06/20/07 Loc: Eastern Maine, USA Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: GaryS]       #5179043 - 04/18/12 06:25 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thank you Gary, I've enjoyed myself with these images. I use standard development with Xtol 1:1 for all my Acros work. I have been wanting to try pushing the film and have seen good results in terestrial photography up to ISO 1600. One was with Caffenol-C using Folgers crystals! Pushing Acros with astro work may be different. I suspect contrast could be an issue. Acros does work very well Hypered as we have seen with the work of Rick Thurmond. The gains were substantial. Acros does well right out of the box of course and seems to continue out to an hour and beyond. I've been wanting to experiment with some red sensitive films, but have not had the time. Films to think about are Rollei Retro 80S and Superpan 200. Extended red films in the past have been disapointing, but one must be willing to try them! I've done my share and it seems I will perhaps continue this lesson in futility. I think it is great that you continue to shoot film Gary. I enjoy your new Filmadvance blog. I'll chime in from time to time. James Post Extras:       GaryS sage Reged: 10/30/06 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: Nightfly]       #5180041 - 04/19/12 11:06 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thanks for the info James. And thanks for the inspiration too. I've been shooting Acros 100 for daylight stuff, but was seriously tempted to try some night-sky shots when I saw its reciprocity characteristics. And now that I've seen your work, I'm going to load up the Hassy and give it a try next time I'm under a good, dark sky. I also really like your moonlit shots as well. So much good stuff there. (BTW -- drop me a line some time at my regular e-mail address. I have some questions regarding developers that I suspect will bore the pants off CN readers.) Thanks again, Gary Post Extras:       OneGear member Reged: 12/30/11 Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: stargazerken]       #5715751 - 03/06/13 02:10 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   All links are dead. Anyone have new links to useful info? Post Extras:       Michal1 sage Reged: 07/25/10 Loc: Czech Republic, Central Europe Re: Films for astrophotography [Re: OneGear]       #5716580 - 03/06/13 02:44 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi OneGear! Nightfly has made a lot of film tests. Look here and here. Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | (show all)

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