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Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less
      #5548739 - 12/01/12 12:44 PM Attachment (683 downloads)

Hi folks,

Jupiter reaches opposition this weekend and it won't get any better than this. I would love to see what folks with smaller aperture scopes can do while we have this great opportunity. Here is The King on Friday morning, taken with my SW100ED (4") at f/36. Seeing conditions were only average/fair, but the small refractor still gave a good account of itself. Interested in giving it a go? Good luck!

Clear Skies,
Brian


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5548764 - 12/01/12 01:00 PM

Dang, that's impressive for a 4" scope!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: AlanL]
      #5549054 - 12/01/12 04:28 PM

Great job with the small bore Brian! I've got a question about imaging Jupiter with a refractor; I was trying to use a 3x barlow on my 92mm TMB-92L refractor but I couldn't get enough back focus to accomplish that. Do you increase the effective focal length of your refractor with a barlow or with eyepiece projection? How high can you increase the effective focal length of your system?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549160 - 12/01/12 05:53 PM

Beautiful shot!
What camera?

Edited by rg55 (12/01/12 05:53 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: AlanL]
      #5549399 - 12/01/12 09:04 PM

Thanks Alan, Pete, and Richard! Pete - With the SW100ED I use a Barlow to boost the focal length from f/9 to f/27 through f/45...this shot used a Siebert 4x Barlow for f/36. In order to reach focus with your refractor you may need a tube extension - I do. I prefer the ones from Stellarvue.
Richard - This image was taken with an Imaging Source DBK21AU618 (a one shot color camera) and a Baader UV/IR cut filter.

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549582 - 12/01/12 11:39 PM Attachment (326 downloads)

I'm still very, very new at imaging. Really green. But, this is one I took on Thanksgiving with a Questar 3.5, no barlow, and re-sized.

V/R

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: TerryWood]
      #5549589 - 12/01/12 11:42 PM Attachment (235 downloads)

And one more.

V/R

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549647 - 12/02/12 12:23 AM Attachment (306 downloads)

Here's my humble contribution:

Edited by rg55 (12/02/12 12:26 AM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #5549780 - 12/02/12 03:38 AM

Nice job Terry and Richard Ya'll coaxed some nice detail out of those images, let's see what else we can get...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5549802 - 12/02/12 04:33 AM Attachment (296 downloads)

Here's my contribution. I used a 130 mm F/11.5 Schmidt-Cassegrain telescope and a 3x barlow to capture this image on the 14th of November. The camera is a DBK21 and I used about 1700 frames. Stacking was done with Autostakkert!2, wavelets with Registax 6 and further processing with Photoshop CS2.
Conditions were fair to good that night.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550159 - 12/02/12 11:19 AM

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In order to reach focus with your refractor you may need a tube extension - I do...




Thanks Brian. How do you calculate the required extension tube length for your barlow/refractor combination? Is there a formula for doing that?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: lcd1080]
      #5550196 - 12/02/12 11:42 AM

Hi Pete,

I am mortally certain there is a formula but I have no idea what it is and did not use it myself. The operational way to tell is to plug in your planet cam and keep racking the focuser in and out until you score focus or see an out-of-focus blob at maximum in or out travel. If you get the blob (most likely at maximum extension) you need a tube extender. You can get them from Orion, TV, AP, Stellarvue and elsewhere; I like the ET3 model from SV: http://www.stellarvue.com/adapters.html, you are looking for something that gives you about 2" extra travel. You will need a 1.25" adapter to receive your nosepiece, I find this centering adapter from Orion does a great job keeping everything tight and properly aligned: http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=15747&kw=centering%20adapter&... Hope this helps!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rik ter horst]
      #5550202 - 12/02/12 11:45 AM

Great job Rik! Very nice image with lots of good detail; personally I would down scale it by about 25% to 35% for presentation...that is just a personal preference. Thanks for posting

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550333 - 12/02/12 01:19 PM

Thanks again Brian, I rummaged through my box full of accessories and found an extension tube and two adapters, one for a DBK camera and one for a DSLR. Thanks for your detailed answer and for motivating me to look through my accessory box!

Pete





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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: lcd1080]
      #5550458 - 12/02/12 02:32 PM

Your welcome, looks like you have what you need there. Good shooting!

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5550883 - 12/02/12 07:27 PM

You guys with your small aperture and hidef images are astounding. Times this is some great work.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: azure1961p]
      #5556822 - 12/06/12 02:41 AM Attachment (238 downloads)

Well after seeing this thread, and since I was not having much luck with the C14, I took up the challenge tonight and got a nice widefield shot with 90mm Apex Mak-Cass. Hope you enjoy.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5556830 - 12/06/12 02:49 AM

Nice Paul - not sure what exactly defines "small bore" but I was going to set up the 5" apo with the ASI120MC colour cam to see how that fared on Jupiter on a night when/if old Jove cooperates..!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5556833 - 12/06/12 02:50 AM

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Nice Paul - not sure what exactly defines "small bore" but I was going to set up the 5" apo with the ASI120MC colour cam to see how that fared on Jupiter on a night when/if old Jove cooperates..!




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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5556837 - 12/06/12 02:59 AM

Your APO qualifies, Darryl. I'd like to see what the new cam does on some other scopes, too.

I've ordered DMK21AU618 before I saw your stunning pics with the new cam. I just couldn't make the old DMK31 work on the C14. I want to try a color CMOS later and see if I can get away from mono everything. Thanks.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5557103 - 12/06/12 09:05 AM

A couple of pics from earlier this week, both taken with my IS DBK618 cam. Captured with IC Capture, cropped/centered in Castrator, stacked in AS!2 and wavelets in R6; no further processing done.

C6SGT at f/30 (4500mm):


AT72ED at f/36 (2580mm):


The scopes share a dual saddle on my CG5 mount so getting shots thru both was fairly quick and painless.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kbev]
      #5558843 - 12/07/12 08:42 AM Attachment (125 downloads)

This thread inspired me to use a Takahashi TS-40 afocally with a 7mm ep. I got about a hundred frames stacked in AviStack2 and no additional processing. Nearly broke my neck trying to point the thing almost straight up while lying on the grass. I think one can see a hint of something.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5559919 - 12/07/12 08:26 PM

Captured with celestron 5i and canon 3T stacked in registax6

My best so far but still trying.
Be Well
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Edited by Greyhaven (12/07/12 08:30 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Greyhaven]
      #5563247 - 12/09/12 10:19 PM

This thread and Mert's photo had me going back through the captures I did with my 6" newt and webcam. I knew I had some pretty decent images, but couldnt remember if they could compare with anything I get with my 8" now. Went back through my Flickr account and I did have some really good images with my 6", and although it isn't from this year, I have to say it is some of my best.

This is from August of 2010 with my C6-N + SPC900NC:


Jupiter 8/7/10 8:20UT by zAmb0ni, on Flickr

Also, here is a link to an animation from the same night.

I'm pretty sure that I did the stacking in registax, going to see if I still have the videos on my hard drive and try stacking them in AS2! to see if there is any improvement.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: zAmbonii]
      #5563739 - 12/10/12 08:46 AM

Hi zAmbonii,

Great image you uploaded here, that 6" of you sure
performs great!
Maybe I just got lucky with the result posted in my
other thread, I'll do some more avi's maybe tonight when
I get home and post an image in this thread as well!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #5563841 - 12/10/12 09:47 AM

This is I guess my best Jupiter from 2011 when I used to have a 6" Meade (LS6 ACF).



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5564824 - 12/10/12 08:18 PM

Great shot Paul, love that composition! What's the focal ratio on that scope?

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5564829 - 12/10/12 08:21 PM

Dive on in Darryl, the water's fine! I'd like to see what your 5" and new CMOS cam could do...

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kbev]
      #5564835 - 12/10/12 08:23 PM

Super shot from that C6SGT Kevin

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: flava]
      #5564839 - 12/10/12 08:25 PM

What a bunch of cool pix you folks are posting! Big kudos to zA and flava...magnificent work there

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5564853 - 12/10/12 08:33 PM Attachment (140 downloads)

Too much fun to not play, especially since I'm still socked in. Here is another from 10 November 2012 at 07-50-43 UT with the SW100ED at f/36 (Siebert 4x Barlow) with the DBK21AU618...

Clear Skies,
Brian

Edited by BKBrown (12/10/12 08:34 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5564859 - 12/10/12 08:37 PM

Very nice Brian! On a side note if you don't mind, how would you rate the Siebert 4X barlow? I've heard some good things about the Siebert optics, they appear anyway to be good bargains.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5565350 - 12/11/12 02:45 AM

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What a bunch of cool pix you folks are posting! Big kudos to zA and flava...magnificent work there




Thx! I went back and I still did have the .avi from that capture and tried restacking it and didn't get anything better. Guess my processing hasn't really changed much in 2 yrs! .

Funny thing about the video is that I have no clue just how I nailed focus. There really wasn't a feature big enough to really focus on. At least with my 8" I can find *something* to use as a reference to try and get focus. I think that is one of the problems with getting a really good image from a small bore scope on planets, it is tough to get the right focus because the target is usually too small. I did have the advantage of a dual speed crayford on my reflector.

I should have a dual crayford her by Friday at least for my 8". I really hope that it will help on that scope. Not sure when my new camera will arrive though.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: zAmbonii]
      #5565357 - 12/11/12 03:07 AM Attachment (120 downloads)

Here's my attempt tonight...MN61 with a Klee 2.8x and ToUcam Pro.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5565649 - 12/11/12 10:07 AM

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Great shot Paul, love that composition! What's the focal ratio on that scope?




Orion Apex, f13, 90mm x 1250mm, 1.5x piggy back barlow...Thanks, Brian

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5566120 - 12/11/12 03:11 PM

Another one from 2011 with the 6" Meade LS6. Good seeing.



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: DesertRat]
      #5566337 - 12/11/12 05:28 PM

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Very nice Brian! On a side note if you don't mind, how would you rate the Siebert 4X barlow? I've heard some good things about the Siebert optics, they appear anyway to be good bargains.

Glenn




Thanks Glenn! I really like Harry Siebert's gear, it's well made and has some of the nicest glass I have ever seen. Not everyone cares for the minimalist feel of his Barlows and eyepieces; his stuff is very light in weight compared to other equipment, but I like it. My imaging case currently has the 1.75x, 4x, and Multi-1.5x to 3.5x Barlows from Siebert, and they get a lot of use...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5566341 - 12/11/12 05:31 PM

Very nice Ricky, you caught some cool detail. Any chance you could lighten it up a bit? It is very dark on my screen...thanks

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5566351 - 12/11/12 05:35 PM

Thanks Brian! I just posted a more "seeable" version of this image in a separate thread.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5566408 - 12/11/12 06:26 PM Attachment (130 downloads)

All published so far are great images, hat off for all
of you!

Here is my attempt as promised, eventhough my laptop
crashed and I lost nearly 27 avi's.
Here is 1 I could save from that drive, stacked with AS!2
wavelets with Registax, nothing more.
Taken with my 6" MAk, TV x2 barlow and the DFK21 @15fps
at aprox. 4200mm FL.
Too bad all my avi's are gone, now restoring my laptop.
BTW, due to filelimit size this is a jpg version, the
other version 390kB is much nicer.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #5566456 - 12/11/12 07:05 PM

That is a sweet image Mert, very well done

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5570504 - 12/14/12 09:14 AM Attachment (134 downloads)

Jupiter through my new 6-inch SCT on a night of so-so seeing. Taken with a Celestron NexImage.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: joelimite]
      #5570608 - 12/14/12 10:31 AM Attachment (95 downloads)

I dont have anything new so I had to dig this one out from years ago.
Taken with an 80mm Stellarvue NHNG on July 6th, 2007.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: tboss70]
      #5570828 - 12/14/12 01:02 PM Attachment (105 downloads)

..and I'll include this one from Dec 10, 2012. Avg seeing with the Skywatcher Pro 100ED and SPC900 webcam.

Edited by tboss70 (12/14/12 02:08 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: tboss70]
      #5573387 - 12/15/12 11:04 PM Attachment (106 downloads)

And even more coolness from flava, Mert, Joel and Todd Great work guys, I finally got my TEC 140 out the other night and bagged a ton of good data. I am still going through it, but here are a couple of shots...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573392 - 12/15/12 11:05 PM Attachment (106 downloads)

And here is a transit shot from the evening of 13 December...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573401 - 12/15/12 11:12 PM

These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5573424 - 12/15/12 11:33 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Yup! Better than the image I got with my 8" taken at the same time!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5573794 - 12/16/12 09:31 AM

Brian,

Extremely impressive!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Sunspot]
      #5573937 - 12/16/12 10:59 AM

Nice images, Gentlemen.

I took 5 images from the earlier session and made an animation. Not only is Ganymede making a transit, Europa is at its max elongation and making a direction change from our perspective. Callisto is emerging from Jupiter's shadow.

Widefield Animation of Jupiter and Moons


You can visit Astrobin for the GIF. Thanks.

Paul

BTW: does anyone think the faint object moving between Io and Europa is anything other than an artifact? Starry Night did not show a smaller moon in that position. And it seems to follow an orbital path...not of a Jovian moon though...more like a comet. But, I don't think it is a comet. Weird?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574116 - 12/16/12 12:50 PM

Really nice going to all, and Brian that TEC 140, I've been hoping that somebody would post a really nice image from that scope some day, and that day is here, very nice!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574125 - 12/16/12 12:54 PM

Hi Paul, nice, and I looked at the GIF, I was at first thrilled at the angle it was coming in, but then I thought that perhaps it's a hot pixel (my cameras have a number of those), the orbital path being the periodic error of your mount?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5574322 - 12/16/12 03:13 PM

I was thinking along those same lines, Jason. I have had some hot pixels showing up, especially at higher gain settings. The artifact is noticeable in red channel.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5574335 - 12/16/12 03:21 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Thanks Darryl! Did you ever get a chance to image with your 5"? Just curious

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574340 - 12/16/12 03:25 PM

Thanks zA, Paul & Paul, and Jason I promised myself that after opposition and before Jupiter started shrinking that I would do some imaging with the 5.5", it's a lot of fun! And here is a link to an animation I made using 20 images from the 13th, sorry it gets twitchy in the middle but I had a 16 minute break that broke my stride...

http://www.flickr.com/photos/62745990@N05/

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574360 - 12/16/12 03:37 PM

These two images taken with your TAK140 are most impacting!
Very crisp and detailed, excellent Brian, well done!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5574663 - 12/16/12 07:21 PM

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These last 2 images are very nice indeed Brian..!




Thanks Darryl! Did you ever get a chance to image with your 5"? Just curious

Clear Skies,
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My "Jupiter campaign" was just too demanding with only one scope unfortunately Brian.....and I'm still processing stuff from them 5 days after we got back - hope to post a compilation of all the good images/animations in a few days but for sure I'll do some 5" imaging on Saturn, the season of which starts very soon down here..!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5574686 - 12/16/12 07:46 PM

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I was thinking along those same lines, Jason. I have had some hot pixels showing up, especially at higher gain settings. The artifact is noticeable in red channel.
Paul




Hi Paul, I used to crop the hot pixel trails out when possible so that I didn't have to push the black down too much or copy paste unnatural blocks of space that can be seen because their noise/gradients don't match, but I really like a bigger outer space as a backdrop, so I finally recently started using the clone tool with a small draw tip sampling the very nearby background space, which will pretty much match any background gradient, for very natural erasing of hot pixel trails no matter how long they are. If you or anyone have any questions about that, you can PM me.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5575379 - 12/17/12 08:56 AM

I reprocessed mine in an attempt to improve the color correction. Processing is hard...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/8278780047/in/photostream


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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This is only my second attempt with this camera, and fourth overall, so I'm at the very beginning of planetary photography.
I used: 150/750 Newtonian scope, 2x No Name Barlow, DMK21.AU04.AS camera, Registax6 for processing.

Aditional data: Night of 12.17.2012, GRS visible, Visible Moons Io and Europa


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5576795 - 12/18/12 04:06 AM Attachment (74 downloads)

Here's your image Ricky with a small levels adjustment in CS3

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5581614 - 12/20/12 10:53 PM

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Really nice going to all, and Brian that TEC 140, I've been hoping that somebody would post a really nice image from that scope some day, and that day is here, very nice!

Jason W. Higley




Thanks Jason

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: joelimite]
      #5581620 - 12/20/12 10:56 PM

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I reprocessed mine in an attempt to improve the color correction. Processing is hard...
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/8278780047/in/photostream




Good job on the reprocess, looks like you teased some more detail out in there...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5581624 - 12/20/12 10:58 PM

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This is only my second attempt with this camera, and fourth overall, so I'm at the very beginning of planetary photography.
I used: 150/750 Newtonian scope, 2x No Name Barlow, DMK21.AU04.AS camera, Registax6 for processing.

Aditional data: Night of 12.17.2012, GRS visible, Visible Moons Io and Europa





That's a solid effort, looks like you are getting the hang of that new camera

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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Carton 100mm F13.
Rotten seeing.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Andy Taylor]
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I think I shot a bull's eye

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5590038 - 12/26/12 05:33 PM Attachment (95 downloads)

Hi! -Long time, no see....


This one was truly a picture to die for... -almost!!

I have been trying to grab some good images this autumn and winter.. -but with no greater luck, due to the extremely bad weather we have been experiencing here. I have gotten some "kind of -ok" shots with both the C8 and C9,25, but nothing with the quality that I expected to get, when Jupiter was at about 55 degrees elevation. Well, I shot this image of Jupiter and Io, tonight from my balcony. As we have milder weather coming in now, the snow on my roof has been melting for a couple of days. As I was mounting the scope on the mount, a small (but obviously heavy) avalanche of snow and ice fell down on the balcony... It hit my balcony table, were I have my laptop placed when imaging.... -leaving the table completely crushed! I dont want to think about, what would have happened if that chunk of ice had hit me in the head!! I decided to go on with my imaging mission anyway, and I managed to grab one .avi before the clouds came rolling in.

I used my Vixen ED 100 SF and the DBK.21.618 with a 2,5X PM. 2500 frames of 5000. Y800/Y800 codec. The image is resized to 170% in R6.

The picture itself is nothing to write home about, only half decent seeing, windy (15 m/sec) and clouds coming and going...

I´ll post it anyway, as it could have been my last! Next time, when imaging on my balcony, I will wear a helmet for sure!! I will go through the images that I have shot with the C8 and C9,25 this autumn/winter and post the better of them later on!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: sunrutas]
      #5590070 - 12/26/12 05:57 PM

Nice to see you posing again Roger, been a while! Sounds like you need a helmet yes! Very nice image with the 100ED. I've pretty much had the same weather as you However I got lucky one day with my C8 (Yes, I got my old C8 back), and ended up with my best Jupiter session ever (Thread).

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Chris_H]
      #5590751 - 12/27/12 06:22 AM

Hi,
this is my Jupiter taken on 2012-11-26 from Italy... it is my first attempt on Jupiter using a SW Maksutov 5" and Celestron Neximage ccd:



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599131 - 01/01/13 05:38 AM

Joining the fun.
All pictures taken with a 150/750mm Newtonian scope (6"/30"), with a 2x Barlow, and stacked with Registax (and resized one of them). Pictures were taken at 12.31.2012 at 21:00 UT





A 7 minute animation:


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5599257 - 01/01/13 09:27 AM Attachment (56 downloads)

Here's one more; just my second Jupiter image since early days (6" dob & ETX-80) back in 2008. Actual frame rate was really slow and until I buy something more appropriate I may need to dust off my old SPC900NC webcam. Perhaps if I play around with the SSAG I can coax some more FPS out of it. This was set to capture 640x480; full frame was even slower, but still faster than 1 frame every 4 seconds, which is the best I can do on my SXV-H9 (not an SXVF - F for fast).

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #5599404 - 01/01/13 11:26 AM

Beautiful shot amigo! That is a heck of a nice composition with everything you caught in that image

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Chris_H]
      #5599405 - 01/01/13 11:30 AM

Another nice pair from Andy and Roger - nice work guys
Roger - it's good to see you in the game, what have you been up to lately?
Hey Chris, you have any small bore to post for this apparition?

Clear Skies and Happy New Year,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ciarlotto]
      #5599409 - 01/01/13 11:33 AM

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Hi,
this is my Jupiter taken on 2012-11-26 from Italy... it is my first attempt on Jupiter using a SW Maksutov 5" and Celestron Neximage ccd:






Well done Ciarlotto! I really like the presentation; so what do you think of the SW Mak?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: yock1960]
      #5599415 - 01/01/13 11:38 AM

Good work there MrMxyzptlk and Steve, very nicely done
Steve - looks like you got a handle on the color balance issue, did you do anything different for this collect?

Clear Skies and Happy New Year,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599432 - 01/01/13 11:45 AM Attachment (57 downloads)

It seems fitting that I closed out the imaging year with some small bore action. Jupiter put on quite a show the night of 30/31 December with an eclipse/emergence and transit events. This composite shows a bit of these two events, the pair was acquired through my TEC 140 and a Siebert 4x Barlow at f/28. I was using the DBK21AU618 with a Baader UV/IR cut filter at 60 fps for 180 seconds...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5599628 - 01/01/13 01:29 PM

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Steve - looks like you got a handle on the color balance issue, did you do anything different for this collect?
:




Not really, probably just less saturation boost in post processing. This data did not seem as good, even though there is more there...but...I'm probably not a good judge at this point. The deconvolution was more difficult to get...I won't say right as I'm still not totally happy with it. It'll take some time to get into a rhythm.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: yock1960]
      #5599790 - 01/01/13 03:07 PM Attachment (51 downloads)

Lot of very good images you al have posted here,
made me want to post another shot from 123012.
Taken with my 6" SW Mak.
I'd like to ask if the image is dark on your screens, since
on my laptop it's rather ok, maybe I have to adjust/
calibrate my screen?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: claytonbigwood]
      #5599894 - 01/01/13 04:07 PM

Nice job!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5599898 - 01/01/13 04:10 PM Attachment (52 downloads)

Here's my reprocess...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ricky]
      #5600523 - 01/01/13 11:16 PM

I posted mine here: http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/5600514/page...
Before I saw this thread.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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An image of Jupiter with a 6" Newtonian (150/750) and 2x Barlow from 1.1.2013

First the animation of 42 minutes time span from 1.1.2013:



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #5600772 - 01/02/13 06:55 AM

@ Brian (BKBrown))Well done Ciarlotto! I really like the presentation; so what do you think of the SW Mak?

Hi, Brian,thank you.
I think Mak SW 127 is an amazing scope both for Planetary observations and imaging: jupiter's images were taken in no good seeing conditions but I presume that in better seeing conditions, Mak 127 is able to give stunning images. I appreciate a lot its collimation sistem and its ability to mantein collimation; the construction of the OTA is sturdy: you can feel it on the hands! great the contrast of images. I recently got an ASI1200MM: I'm waiting for a better weather to test it, and I presume that the couple Mak127-ASI120 will give good performance...
The little Mak is a very good telescope: I always suggest it for beginners who are interested to Solar Sistem observations and planetary imaging.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ciarlotto]
      #5604159 - 01/04/13 07:05 AM Attachment (89 downloads)

Hi,

here's my contribution - only my second picture ever of Jupiter. Its monochrome unfortunately as the camera I used was the DMK51. Although this camera is normally considered unsuitable for planets, I thought I'd give it a go and was pleasantly surprised by the result

Taken on 3rd Jan. through Vixen 102M at f20 and processed with AviStack and PS6.

cheers,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #5604187 - 01/04/13 07:39 AM Attachment (57 downloads)

This was done 12/13/12. Just missed the transit. Anyway, shot was done in 2 parts. One for Jupiter, one for the Moons. Not real happy with the moons. Probably should have done it in 3 shots. Ganymeade, Io, and Europa got blown out a bit trying to get enough light to show Callisto.

Done with an iOptron 114 (4.5")Newt and MS Lifecam Studio. About as "small bore" as it gets.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Driven1]
      #5605713 - 01/04/13 10:52 PM

Welcome Paul and Driven1, thanks for the additions to the thread. Paul - that mono image actually looks pretty cool, I sometimes shoot mono with my 4" intentionally because cloud details tend to stand out better. Thanks!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6118499 - 10/05/13 04:30 AM Attachment (55 downloads)

Well, here is my first ever try with my DMK camera too Jupiter with a 6" F/5 newtonian, and 3x barlow

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #6118853 - 10/05/13 11:17 AM

Sweet! That is really crisp, lots of detail visible in there. I just shot a series of 4" small bore images this week, now you've got me motivated to post

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6238744 - 12/07/13 10:28 AM Attachment (41 downloads)

Here's mine with the Celestron C6 and the Orion Starshoot IV

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Alvin See]
      #6239192 - 12/07/13 02:13 PM

Nicely done Alvin You've got to love that shadow on one side and the moon (Which one? Date and time?) just touching the opposite limb, that is a great composition...thanks for sharing!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Alvin See]
      #6239564 - 12/07/13 05:49 PM Attachment (34 downloads)

Here is 1 just 1 day before my hard-drive died.
I was imaging yesterday night ( or at least that is
what I thought ) and the laptop was simply hanging.
When I got back after some 2 hours I found everything
dead, oh well
Herewith the one from the 3d of december 2013.
Equipment used: Skywatcher 6" MCT, 1,5x barlow and ASI120MC
[edit]stretched the histogram a bit to brighten up

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6239895 - 12/07/13 09:34 PM

Great to see this thread still going Brian: nice to see all the "small bore" images herein and some especially fine ones from yourself and other regular CN'ers, with maybe a special mention of Flavius who sadly passed on too young.

I never did get around to using the 5" apo but that's perhaps a commentary on my own scheduling - I'm hoping to re-organise my work distribution in AA imaging as well as other life activities...so who knows, I intend to take the apo with us regularly now that I've sorted out the electric focuser properly - I might even post an image in this thread this coming year..!!!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6240131 - 12/08/13 01:07 AM

Thanks, Brian This was taken in Singapore at 1:16am (+8 GMT) on 7 Dec 2013. That shadow I thought was Ganymede. I have no idea about the white dot. The movement was from right to left.

PS: I can't seem to improve the resolution of my pictures beyond this. Either I'm not doing everything right or I need a better camera ...


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6240182 - 12/08/13 02:25 AM

Nice shot Mert , tons of detail there but the image looks pretty dark on my screen...can you brighten it up a bit?
Sorry to hear about the computer, I just had to get a new lap top myself

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6240188 - 12/08/13 02:34 AM

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Great to see this thread still going Brian: nice to see all the "small bore" images herein and some especially fine ones from yourself and other regular CN'ers, with maybe a special mention of Flavius who sadly passed on too young.

I never did get around to using the 5" apo but that's perhaps a commentary on my own scheduling - I'm hoping to re-organise my work distribution in AA imaging as well as other life activities...so who knows, I intend to take the apo with us regularly now that I've sorted out the electric focuser properly - I might even post an image in this thread this coming year..!!!




Hi Darryl,

I was very pleased to see that this thread had been resurrected, I haven't been able to do any small-bore yet this apparition For that matter I haven't been able to do much with the C11 either with miserable weather predominating for the last month! It would be great if you got the chance to join in here, this challenge has been loads of fun and "Challenge Round II" really just got rolling. It is amazing how many talented folks we have seen contribute here already since last apparition, it is the best way I can think of to demonstrate what can be done with smaller scopes. Looking back through the thread and seeing Flavius' images in here made me pause too, he was a talented young man who left us too soon...and he is missed. Take care my friend and I hope you get to take a crack at some small-bore fun

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Alvin See]
      #6240200 - 12/08/13 02:58 AM

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Thanks, Brian This was taken in Singapore at 1:16am (+8 GMT) on 7 Dec 2013. That shadow I thought was Ganymede. I have no idea about the white dot. The movement was from right to left.

PS: I can't seem to improve the resolution of my pictures beyond this. Either I'm not doing everything right or I need a better camera ...




Thanks Alvin! I checked on CalSky and both the shadow and "white dot" are Ganymede, not sure the issue is necessarily the camera - maybe focus and/or seeing are worth checking on...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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Hi Brian, thanks for mentioning the brightness or lack
of it!
I upped the brightness stretching the histogram a bit.
Luckily I was able to repair the laptop in time to get out
and image another series of Júpiter.
Rather late for me to get in I got a shadow transit of
Europa I believe.
When I started, Júpiter was just visible above the rooftop
with still some heatwaves blurring the image a bit.
But it was Io reapearing from behind Júpiter if I'm not
mistaken.
Herewith a rapid processed combo of the 2 images.
Hope it is bright enough, though the color on the left one
needs more atention
[Edit]Ok, looks a bit better now


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
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Hi all, this is my small bore contribution. I took this through my 5.5 inch APO at f/25 (3.5x barlow)two months ago with my ASI120MC. Processed in Registax 6. This is a great thread and its good to see planetary photography is not just solely for the big CATs.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: GaryO]
      #6241389 - 12/08/13 07:12 PM

Nicely done Gary...and welcome aboard It's great fun shooting with smaller scopes, I use both a TEC 140 and an SW100ED whenever I get the chance. You got some great detail in that image, and pix like that will hopefully encourage others to have a go at planetary imaging. After all, we know you don't need a big CAT to get the job done!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6241427 - 12/08/13 07:39 PM

A great thread Brian, congratulations on stimulating some interest around CN on something of value. Not like that 'other' thread over in Cats & Casses!

Btw, I saw your post over there. How dare you bring logic into that stream of whatever one can politely call it.

But I agree with you 100%!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: DesertRat]
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This was my 5" Orion Mak from 2012.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: DesertRat]
      #6241850 - 12/08/13 11:54 PM

Thanks Glenn I'm glad to see the continuing interest in this thread, I think many folks are intimidated with planetary imaging and think you have to have a big SCT or Newt to play...clearly you don't.
As for that "other" thread, I am starting to think "why bother?". Sometimes I just can't pass up a challenge

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #6241853 - 12/08/13 11:56 PM

Good stuff Richard

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6241877 - 12/09/13 12:23 AM Attachment (39 downloads)

Do small bore sketches count? 150mm MCT with human eyeball.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6242053 - 12/09/13 05:11 AM

.....maybe they don't 'cos it is an imaging forum Norme, but who cares - not me!?!

I'm glad you posted - makes me realise I should look at the sketching you visual obbing folks create more often!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6242082 - 12/09/13 06:33 AM

Kokatha, thank you. Well...its....an...image, kind of, sort of.

Anyway, my apologies. This is an interesting thread and been running for a long time. Been following it and could not resist, it's what a "small bore" can do that's interesting.

With that, my regards...to all you imagers. As a visual observer, I appreciate your work and peruse your forum from time to time. One request, though. We observe the same meridian about 2 days prior to those of you in the US, can you get your images up in a timely manner, like two days before you take them? Please. (In jest.)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Asbytec]
      #6242228 - 12/09/13 09:17 AM

Hi Norme,

While this is an imaging thread, your sketch is terrific and gives us a really good insight into what visual guys are doing. I like visual work and try to fit some in to most of my sessions, many imagers do not appreciate the skill involved in picking out fine detail at the eye piece. Following your work in other forums I know what a skilled observer you are, so I'm glad you shared the sketch as a "special treat" here. Thanks!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6242584 - 12/09/13 12:43 PM

This was taken from my back yard in Halifax on the evening of December 8-9. Seeing was incredible, but man it was cold. This is the first image I have taken in a long time. It is also the first with my new setup, a Meade LXD55 AR5 5 inch achro. I expect the quality of my images to improve a lot as I upgrade my equipment and gain experience. But this was a spur of the moment effort to serve as a benchmark for future efforts.



Equipment:

Meade LXD55 AR-5 5" achro.
Mead 4000 18mm Plossl
Antares 2.5X Barlow
Samsung S4 phone on the sketchiest improvised mount ever.

13 of 21 images stacked in Lynkeos and processed with PS.

I'm happy with my new telescope system, but the mount has a persistent wiggle that I've tracked down to play in the declination axis. Time for a rebuild I guess. As long as the wind is calm, it's no biggie. The mount is accurate though. Very happy.

The GRS was very prominent. Not captured in the image was the incredible seeing. Visually, Jupiter was breathtaking. The north and south equatorial belts showed incredible detail and variation. Every major cloud belt showed some detail and I could easily make out some of the minor storms. I even watched as Callisto and Europa "traded spaces" in their apparent positions. It was truly a sight to behold.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6242588 - 12/09/13 12:45 PM Attachment (50 downloads)

Took these Nov 12 with pretty good seeing (could not get myself out of bed before Ios shadow appeared though). Images were taken with a Starfire 152, Barcon with ASI 120 MC. 15000 frames over 90 seconds every 4 minutes over about 90 minutes. At the end the sun had come up and the image quality deteriorated. Postprocessed with Autostakkert using the best 15% of frames (some also with PIPP), wavelets in Registax and assembled in photoshop. Had to compress it a little bit to fulfill the maximum file size requirements. I had posted this before, but thought it would fit here as well.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6242674 - 12/09/13 01:34 PM

Wild stuff, beautifull animation, congratulations with that!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6242758 - 12/09/13 02:17 PM

Thank you Brian, yea, sorry for jumping in there. I've been eyeing this thread with interest in small bore images since it began. Fascinating.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: skookum]
      #6243267 - 12/09/13 06:10 PM

You are off to a good start there, welcome back to the imaging game. It will all get easier as you become more familiar with the gear and processing routine. Keep up the effort, I look forward to seeing more pix

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6243273 - 12/09/13 06:15 PM

Very cool animation Ulrich! Imaging with refractors is a very comfortable, low stress way to do business. That Starfire 152 is a fabulous OTA, do you have a motofcuser on your scope or are you manual? Thanks for posting

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6243608 - 12/09/13 08:57 PM

Hi Brian, thank you for your kind words. I am using a manual (feather touch) focuser. I do have a little JMI motorized focuser, but somehow prefer the tactile feedback of the manual focuser.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6246613 - 12/11/13 09:30 AM

First light of my skywatcher 150/750 newtonian. Taken yesterday in poor to fair seeing:



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: mitovka]
      #6247046 - 12/11/13 01:18 PM

Beautiful image Michal, that Skywatcher 150/750
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6247055 - 12/11/13 01:21 PM

Since I like animations a lot, here is the animation
from 7th to 8th of December I did with my 150mm Mak.

Jupiter animation


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6247262 - 12/11/13 03:11 PM

mitovka can you tell me your setup? Camera, barlow etc etc

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #6247298 - 12/11/13 03:24 PM

SW BD 150/750, zeiss O-10 eyepiece, filterwheel with Astronomik RGB filters, 10mm T2 extender, ASI 120MM

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: mitovka]
      #6247472 - 12/11/13 04:56 PM

That is one fine small bore image Michal
You just have to love those ZWO ASI cameras...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6247733 - 12/11/13 07:33 PM

A very nice image Michal!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6257013 - 12/16/13 08:35 PM Attachment (56 downloads)

Hi all! Here my contribution from Argentina, this was taken back in 2010 with an ETX-125EC and the SPC900, my best so far but I hope start shooting again soon, now with my new C8.

Cheers!!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Esteban Gonzalez]
      #6257162 - 12/16/13 09:46 PM

Well done Esteban, slightly yellowish on my screen but an excellent image .....ahh, this image brings back memories of when the SEB had disappeared!

ps: welcome to CN!!!

Edited by Kokatha man (12/16/13 09:47 PM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Esteban Gonzalez]
      #6257730 - 12/17/13 09:25 AM

Great capture Esteban! That ETX 125 did very well for you. I remember imaging Jupiter with my SW100ED during that apparition and capturing the reemergence of the belt. Thanks for sharing

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6258273 - 12/17/13 02:35 PM

Thanks guys for your comments, I was really surprised by the ETX optics under good seeing, it is an incredible planetary imaging starter equipment on budget.

Darryl, indeed the image is quite yellowish, it would benefit from some further processing... I am on the learning curve!!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #6258315 - 12/17/13 03:03 PM

Jupiter 3.12.2013. It was great seeing. Nexstar 6SE, 3x Barlow Televue, ZWO ASI120MC.



And there is animation from this night..

Jupiter animation 3.12.2013

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6258372 - 12/17/13 03:36 PM

Spectacular animation proky! And welcome to the forum...

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      #6258405 - 12/17/13 03:54 PM

Welcome aboard proky and congratulations on your excellent small bore work I always enjoy a good animation...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6258802 - 12/17/13 07:10 PM

A very nice animation & image proky - welcome also from me to CN!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6260164 - 12/18/13 01:57 PM

Thanks for your comments, I was really surprised when I compiled images. It was great seeing I think 8/10.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6264827 - 12/21/13 05:38 AM

Here comes my Jupiter with the 6" F/5 and 3X Barlow (Drizzle 1.5)





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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #6264828 - 12/21/13 05:38 AM

It is from 22:17 and 22:47 UT from 20.12.2013 with Ganymede Shadow transit and Oval BA

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6264876 - 12/21/13 07:15 AM

Very nice Proky!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #6265693 - 12/21/13 05:05 PM

Nice work on the transit images, what camera were you using?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6265787 - 12/21/13 05:56 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

First decent shot of Jupiter. Had to get up at 1AM on the only clear night in the last few weeks.

Orion 127mm Mak, Omni 2x Barlow, T4i + Magic Lantern for movie crop mode. ~4000 frames. Seeing was still only average at best.

I'm sure I can get better results - just not sure if it's only the poor seeing, or if the barlow, or imprecise focusing is holding me back.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: MrMxyzptlk]
      #6265863 - 12/21/13 06:46 PM

Excellent!

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      #6266010 - 12/21/13 08:38 PM

.....and nice images from you also Mr Mxy...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6266310 - 12/22/13 01:31 AM

BKBrown I was using a DMK 21AU04AS black and white with Astronomik Type 2C filters. Thank you for the appreciations. Seeing was above average, but was not perfect at all.

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      #6267019 - 12/22/13 02:40 PM

Cool image Evan, looks like you pulled one out despite less-than-good seeing conditions What is your focusing arrangement? Do you have really fine focus control?

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      #6267021 - 12/22/13 02:42 PM

Quote:

BKBrown I was using a DMK 21AU04AS black and white with Astronomik Type 2C filters. Thank you for the appreciations. Seeing was above average, but was not perfect at all.




Thanks, that is a solid kit you have there...I also use the Astronomik IIc filters

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6267202 - 12/22/13 04:24 PM

Solid kit except for the fact that a 6" F/5 Newtonian is not that suited for planetary work. But I love planetary work, and I will use this setup until I will get a new one I won't be discouraged just because there are better scope for this

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6270515 - 12/24/13 12:01 PM

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Cool image Evan, looks like you pulled one out despite less-than-good seeing conditions What is your focusing arrangement? Do you have really fine focus control?

Clear Skies, Brian





I use 10x live view on my camera, and use a star to nail down focusing, then slew back over to Jupiter to do imaging. I'm only using the OTA's stock focusing knob.

I made a Bahtinov mask out of some card stock a couple of nights ago - I'll be giving that a shot next time out to help focus more quickly. I'll still probably use a star for focusing first.


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      #6272947 - 12/26/13 12:10 AM Attachment (61 downloads)

Christmas morning Jupiter

I used my home-made Bahtinov mask to fine-tune focusing - I used Castor or Pollux (can't remember which one) to focus, then swung back over to Jupiter to image.

Seeing was maybe a bit better than average - at least better than my image from a few nights ago.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6278458 - 12/29/13 03:08 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Cool image Evan, looks like you pulled one out despite less-than-good seeing conditions What is your focusing arrangement? Do you have really fine focus control?

Clear Skies, Brian





I use 10x live view on my camera, and use a star to nail down focusing, then slew back over to Jupiter to do imaging. I'm only using the OTA's stock focusing knob.

I made a Bahtinov mask out of some card stock a couple of nights ago - I'll be giving that a shot next time out to help focus more quickly. I'll still probably use a star for focusing first.




Thanks Evan. Any particular reason you don't focus on the planet? I believe that most of us focus on the planetary target we are imaging, and I don't know of anyone else using a Bahtinov mask for this work. Using the mask to focus on a star and then moving to Jupiter is a much tougher way to do business, my hat is off to you for the effort...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6278463 - 12/29/13 03:12 AM

Good work Evan, but you may want to back off on the sharpening routine - you are losing some data by over-processing, try to keep it natural looking Your kit is really playing nice together, so don't try to push too hard during processing...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6278481 - 12/29/13 03:43 AM

Some sage suggestions from Brian there Evan, but a meritous effort nonetheless...

On another note Brian, every time I look at this excellent thread I open it and see you saying: "Hi folks,
Jupiter reaches opposition this weekend and it won't get any better than this."
and I go "what..........!"

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6278484 - 12/29/13 03:46 AM

Yeah, I noticed it looked a bit less "natural" than other people's images. I've kept my original, unsharpened TIFFs so I can always go back later and get the wavelets just right. I've only done a few planetary images so far.

Focusing using the Bahtinov mask works really well. I spend less time slewing over to the star, getting the focus right, and slewing back, than I do fiddling with focus back and forth directly on Jupiter trying to get it "just right". I'm sure in better seeing conditions, focusing directly on the planet would be easier.

I like using the mask so much, that I use it for visual. When I'm viewing stars, it takes no time to plop it on the front of the scope, tweak focus, then take it off - again, far less time than tweaking focus back and forth making sure it's "just right".


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6278490 - 12/29/13 03:57 AM

If it works for you then it's fine Evan, but I have to reinforce Brian's comments there and state that I would never contemplate using such devices to focus on Jupiter.....imho focusing is next in line after seeing & collimation (they are the first indispensables! )

I simply don't believe that you can achieve anywhere near the fine focus achievable on subtle disk details with anything but your eyes on the onscreen image!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6278768 - 12/29/13 09:47 AM Attachment (41 downloads)

Here I've toned down the sharpening a bit. All of the features still appear to be there, with more subtle gradients.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6279101 - 12/29/13 12:37 PM

Now that's the ticket Evan! That is a much more natural looking presentation. There are many different ways to get to a finished image and it pays to try new things.
There is a temptation to push data too hard, particularly if it is somewhat marginal, but doing so typically leads to an artificial (and less-than-ideal) result. Your second image is much more restrained and, to my eye, much more aesthetically pleasing.
One the most important things to remember for good small bore images is that we cannot create more detail than the resolution of the instrument can provide. Trying to force the detail through post-processing and enlarged image scale will only result in a degraded and/or over-sized image. We have to understand and work effectively with the limitations of our kit...and have fun

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #6279282 - 12/29/13 02:25 PM

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Some sage suggestions from Brian there Evan, but a meritous effort nonetheless...

On another note Brian, every time I look at this excellent thread I open it and see you saying: "Hi folks,
Jupiter reaches opposition this weekend and it won't get any better than this."
and I go "what..........!"

Then the penny drops!




But next weekend it will be correct (again)...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6279436 - 12/29/13 03:46 PM

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Now that's the ticket Evan! That is a much more natural looking presentation. There are many different ways to get to a finished image and it pays to try new things.
There is a temptation to push data too hard, particularly if it is somewhat marginal, but doing so typically leads to an artificial (and less-than-ideal) result. Your second image is much more restrained and, to my eye, much more aesthetically pleasing.
One the most important things to remember for good small bore images is that we cannot create more detail than the resolution of the instrument can provide. Trying to force the detail through post-processing and enlarged image scale will only result in a degraded and/or over-sized image. We have to understand and work effectively with the limitations of our kit...and have fun

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Yep - I've done some wide field deep sky imaging (long exposure), and there's a similar theme with stretching and setting levels. You *can* make more faint wispy stuff pop out, but at the expense of noise and blotchiness. The same applies to planetary imaging and sharpening. The data will only support you doing so much before it breaks down visually.

I'm pretty sure my limiting factor (besides the aperture of my scope) is seeing. My videos of Jupiter are still pretty wobbly due to atmospheric turbulence. Gotta get a good night of seeing.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6284882 - 01/01/14 05:38 AM

Jupiter 30.12.2013.

a short animation

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6284886 - 01/01/14 05:45 AM

Beautifull result, lot of detail in there!
Seeing must have been very good!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6286246 - 01/01/14 07:07 PM

Another nice one proky I especially like the animation, I still have not found an animation application that works consistently well for me - what are you using?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6287777 - 01/02/14 02:42 PM

Hi Brian, I use Picture2avi for animation. It is very simple software.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6288510 - 01/02/14 09:13 PM

Thanks proky, I think I will give it a try

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6310873 - 01/13/14 06:53 PM Attachment (30 downloads)

OK here is my contribution to this thread Brian!! C6 on an AVX mount using a ASI120MM camera. LRGB image with 10.000 frames for LUM and 5000 on each color channel. Seeing wasnt that bad but I was catching Jupiter just above my hot rooftop so it was a really wobbly sight!!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ferrodzam]
      #6311214 - 01/13/14 09:50 PM

Great image Fernando, the Oval BA and white ovals show up very well It's nice to see you on this thread...small-bore shooting is fun!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6315869 - 01/16/14 05:19 AM Attachment (34 downloads)

Jupiter and Europa taken with a Tele Vue NP127is and 5X Powermate with an Imaging Source DBK21AU04.AS camera. Captured on January 15, 2014 at about 10:42PM PST. Three minutes of captures with the best 10% stacked and wavelet sharpened in Registax v6 followed by tweaks in Photoshop CS5 and Apple's Preview application.

Seeing conditions were variable (aren't they always) with moments of good seeing interspaced with absolutely atrocious (not helped by jet aircraft passing very near to Jupiter every few minutes as they followed their landing path to a nearby airport).

I hope to try again this Friday when the Great Red Spot transits at 11:16PM PST which is only 18 minutes past the time that Jupiter reaches its local zenith.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6320166 - 01/18/14 10:42 AM

Jupiter 17.1.2014. the weather was bad and becase I do not have heating I had to use a hair dryer often.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: james7ca]
      #6321963 - 01/19/14 11:00 AM Attachment (29 downloads)

Jupiter and Europa as well with a Starfire 152 and ASI 120MC. 2 minutes captured for each frame with Autostakkert for stacking (best 25%) and wavelets in Registax.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6322257 - 01/19/14 01:55 PM

With my C8 being in the shop, I felt this was a better time than ever to take part in the challenge. Here is my attempt:

Jupiter - January 18th, 2014 @ 1:31am
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: james7ca]
      #6322544 - 01/19/14 04:23 PM

You pulled out a good image under tough conditions James, nicely done That is a terrific imaging kit you used, the TV127 is sweet! I'm going to try with my refractors tonight since I haven't contributed an image to this thread in a long time...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6322547 - 01/19/14 04:24 PM

A lot of detail in that one proky

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6322556 - 01/19/14 04:27 PM

That is a beautiful set Ulrich, very well done sir It's got to be fun imaging with that big Starfire...it is a fabulous telescope. The upper right hand image is particularly good, what are you using for stacking and processing?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: StrangeDejavu]
      #6322567 - 01/19/14 04:30 PM

That is a nice catch with the SW 120 Mitch, why did you wait until your C8 was down I look forward to your next post...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: ToxMan]
      #6322575 - 01/19/14 04:33 PM

This is all I can muster.



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6322660 - 01/19/14 05:11 PM

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That is a nice catch with the SW 120 Mitch, why did you wait until your C8 was down I look forward to your next post...




Thanks Brian! Being an f/7 scope, Jupiter is rather small without the help of a 2x Barlow. I get a little help from the NexImage 5 since the diagonal is fixed at 7mm, but any other camera and i'd probably need a 5x Barlow. It was a fun challenge none-the-less, one i'll be doing again with my ST-80. Ha, talk about a challenge... we'll see how that goes.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6323237 - 01/19/14 10:59 PM

Hi Brian,

Thank you for your complement. I am using Firecapture to image, Autostakkert to stack, Registax for wavelets and photoshop for final touch up. I am still struggling though in that the red channel often seems less sharp than the blue and green (I think that is causing the blueish tint of Europa). Not sure yet if that is an issue with my IR cutoff filter?


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6323380 - 01/20/14 12:48 AM

You are quite welcome, it is well deserved. It sounds like you use exactly the same suite of apps I use with my ASI120mc. I have noticed color issues with both my SW120ED and the TEC 140 when imaging planets with the 120mc, I am told it is more blue sensitive than the Sony 618 chip cameras (which are more red sensitive). Some corrections can be made in post processing, but we will always suffer some loss of color saturation with smaller aperture scopes. I am not sure what can be done to correct/alter the blue color of the moon without singling it out for a separate adjustment in PS.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kirscovitch]
      #6323381 - 01/20/14 12:50 AM

That is a good effort kirscovitch...and it gets you some skin in the game

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6323455 - 01/20/14 02:48 AM

Thanks Brian. I know it's not the greatest but for a first image I guess it's not too bad. At least you can tell it's Jupiter. It was taken with a Starshoot 5mp imager through a Nexstar 130SLT. I'm sure I could get better results but on this night it was -15F and just to cold to really get things dialed in. My focuser was almost froze solid and I could not get any sort of image what so ever when I tried a 2x barlow. Any tips I could get with this type of setup would be greatly appreciated.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: kirscovitch]
      #6323521 - 01/20/14 05:49 AM

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Ask]
      #6325184 - 01/20/14 10:19 PM Attachment (22 downloads)

Tonight's effort using my Nexstar 4se at f/23 with a ZWO asi034mc. Stacked in registax with a little play in wavelets. No further editing. Got just a glimmer of Lo crossing. This is only my second night shooting with a planetary imager.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: dakotavc]
      #6325293 - 01/20/14 11:40 PM

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Tonight's effort using my Nexstar 4se at f/23 with a ZWO asi034mc. Stacked in registax with a little play in wavelets. No further editing. Got just a glimmer of Lo crossing. This is only my second night shooting with a planetary imager.




If you are just getting started you are definitely off on the right foot Looks like you caught one of the moons transiting across the face of Jupiter (the light toned little "ball" at about 9:30 "on the clock")...nicely done. Jupiter looks rather red on my screen, you might want to play with the red and blue white balance values for a more natural color. Please keep the pix coming!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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Here's my submission. This was taken using a Celestron C6 with a 2X barlow and extension tube and a Canon 7D with Magic Lantern firmware. Around 4900 images were extracted from RAW video and stacked in Registax 6. Further processing was done in Photoshop CS5. This image is actually a reprocess of the video taken on my third attempt at using this technique.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6326492 - 01/21/14 04:16 PM Attachment (23 downloads)

Here is another from Monday night with the ZWO ASI034mc and the Nexstar 4SE at F/26.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: dakotavc]
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Tonight I tried out shooting with the $20 LRGB filter set from Meade I got recently. Pretty happy with the results, but still trying to finetune Gain/exposure. Shot through a Starfire 152 with ASI 120 MM, stacked in Autostakkert, wavelets in Registax and RGB merged in photoshop. Best 50% of 3000 frames for R, G & B respectively.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6333812 - 01/24/14 11:06 PM

Probably one of the most detailed yet. Thanks for sharing.

I may try again with the data I collected over one week ago. I think I can get a little more by reselecting and re-stacking and maybe trying to use WinJUPOS to de-rotate two other sequences I took over about a ten minute period (giving me three times the number of possible frames).

I've already got a better looking result than the image I posted earlier, just by doing some color, levels, and saturation tweaks and by turning down the sharpening.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: james7ca]
      #6333887 - 01/24/14 11:46 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

Started using raw video mode on my T4i, thanks to Magic Lantern.

I can extract more detail with raw movies, but the sensor noise is now more apparent. The night I took this, seeing was better than it had been before, so I went for broke and stacked a pair of 2x barlows. My theory is that increasing the image scale reduces the effect that sensor noise has on fine detail - if the optics and seeing don't break down at that magnification.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6339116 - 01/27/14 04:21 PM Attachment (33 downloads)

My first Jupiter with an FS102 3x barlow extension tube and Toucam. No filters for color ;>(

Processed with AS2, Registax6 and PS DS2...

26 Jan 8:45pm CST from 6000 feet elevation in San Miguel de Allende.

Seeing 7-8/10 2000 frames best 800.

Kindly give me any and all comments.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6340383 - 01/28/14 08:35 AM

Jupiter and Ganymed 25.1.2014.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Shine]
      #6341903 - 01/28/14 09:13 PM

That's a nice image Shine, lot's of good detail there (including some white ovals at the bottom). I have never done planetary imaging with my DSLR, this shot is a nice example of what can be done with the technique for those who don't have dedicated planetary cameras and want to get into this game...thanks for sharing!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: dakotavc]
      #6341905 - 01/28/14 09:16 PM

Another good one...I like the moons

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: urassner]
      #6341912 - 01/28/14 09:20 PM

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Tonight I tried out shooting with the $20 LRGB filter set from Meade I got recently. Pretty happy with the results, but still trying to finetune Gain/exposure. Shot through a Starfire 152 with ASI 120 MM, stacked in Autostakkert, wavelets in Registax and RGB merged in photoshop. Best 50% of 3000 frames for R, G & B respectively.




Hi Ulrich,

You are getting a decent image and I can see the detail in there, but the only color I see is shades of red. For whatever reason, I don't get the RGB full color look. What settings are you using on the camera? May I ask what your RGB integration process is like in PS?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6341919 - 01/28/14 09:23 PM

Nice shot Evan! Looks like you may be pushing it a bit hard in processing, some noise is creeping in and interfering with your cool surface detail...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6341924 - 01/28/14 09:27 PM

Smartly done Preston, welcome aboard Nice detail there, the image is just a bit dark on my screen...guess it could be local to me. That is a very nice 4" scope you have there, I look forward to seeing more of your images.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6341927 - 01/28/14 09:29 PM

Another good one proky, and the animation was well worth the effort. Thanks!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
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Nice shot Evan! Looks like you may be pushing it a bit hard in processing, some noise is creeping in and interfering with your cool surface detail...

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My real intention with stacking barlows was to resize my results back down to the scale that a single 2x barlow gives. By oversampling, then resizing back down, image sensor noise can be diminished in my final result. I have compared both techniques, and the oversampled/resized version gives the same/better detail with less noise.

Here is the resized image, and a better representation of the real image detail that is captured.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6342524 - 01/29/14 07:57 AM

I think it's a good result Evan, especially for a 5" Mak and DSLR combo.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Gendo]
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Taken with my Carton 100mm F13...

Spc900NC, 3x barlow and spacer tubes.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6348537 - 02/01/14 05:18 AM

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My first Jupiter with an FS102 3x barlow extension tube and Toucam. No filters for color ;>(
Processed with AS2, Registax6 and PS DS2...
26 Jan 8:45pm CST from 6000 feet elevation in San Miguel de Allende.
Seeing 7-8/10 2000 frames best 800.
Kindly give me any and all comments.
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Hi Preston, nice image!
Certainly not bad at all with a toucam, you captured a lot
of detail there!
If I'm not mistaken or my eyes play me a trick, I can
discern a little bit of "onion" ring effect in there?
Could it be that the gain was fairly low?
At what fps were you imaging?


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6349976 - 02/01/14 08:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Nice shot Evan! Looks like you may be pushing it a bit hard in processing, some noise is creeping in and interfering with your cool surface detail...

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My real intention with stacking barlows was to resize my results back down to the scale that a single 2x barlow gives. By oversampling, then resizing back down, image sensor noise can be diminished in my final result. I have compared both techniques, and the oversampled/resized version gives the same/better detail with less noise.

Here is the resized image, and a better representation of the real image detail that is captured.




This looks really nice Evan, much smoother and less noisy I have throttled back a lot on enlarging images because it often softens the detail up too much, particularly on small bore shots.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Andy Taylor]
      #6349983 - 02/01/14 08:36 PM

That's a pretty cool result with the SPC900 Andy, you picked up a lot of the key features there. What kind of frame rate are you shooting at?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6350224 - 02/01/14 10:57 PM Attachment (13 downloads)

Another pic from my nexstar 4se and zwo asi034mc at F/26 taken at 6:51pm today. This time I captured Ganymede and its shadow. Seeing was poor due to lots of wispy clouds sneaking in. Best 30% of 3000 images stacked in AS!2, minor tweak to wavelets 1 and 2 in registax.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6350392 - 02/02/14 12:53 AM Attachment (15 downloads)

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My first Jupiter with an FS102 3x barlow extension tube and Toucam. No filters for color ;>(

Processed with AS2, Registax6 and PS DS2...

26 Jan 8:45pm CST from 6000 feet elevation in San Miguel de Allende.

Seeing 7-8/10 2000 frames best 800.

Kindly give me any and all comments.

Very Best Regards,

Preston




There's actually a lot of detail that can be processed here but there is this graduated ringing effect on the limb. Here's a sharpened contrast enhanced version of your piece illustrating the point.

Terrific btw.


Pete

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6350994 - 02/02/14 11:14 AM

Hi Mert, As I said...first image and SO MUCH to learn.

The Toucam will only shoot 15 fps and that is what I am shooting.

Yes, I see the onion ring...that is also the first image that I have ever processed...other than one image of Mars taken over 8 years ago using the Houston Astromomy Clubs C14 and that same Toucam.

Shot 11 avi's last night and will start processing as soon as they finish downloading from the laptop.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6351293 - 02/02/14 01:56 PM

Hi Preston,

It's already a very good result, if I remember correctly
the ToUcam is a USB1 device isn't it?
If it is like the SPC900 it will start compressing
above 10fps!
Give it a try with 10fps and have the gain high enough
to fill the histogram aprox. 70%.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Mert]
      #6351610 - 02/02/14 04:31 PM Attachment (21 downloads)

Hi Mert,

I'll drop down to 10 fps tonight and increase the gain.

Here is the best from last night.

FS102, 2.5x barlow, 1.5 inch extension tube after the barlow, 15 fps and not idea the other settings except 1/50 second exposure.

This is a stack of 1509 from 3500 processed in RS6 and PS2

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6351677 - 02/02/14 04:59 PM

Hi Preston,

Good result, just PM'd you!


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6353112 - 02/03/14 12:01 PM

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That's a pretty cool result with the SPC900 Andy, you picked up a lot of the key features there. What kind of frame rate are you shooting at?

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10fps.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Andy Taylor]
      #6353571 - 02/03/14 03:57 PM

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Taken with my Carton 100mm F13...

Spc900NC, 3x barlow and spacer tubes.



Hello Andy,
your colours of Jupiter look very nice in the picture done with the Carton 100 f/14.
I took Jupiter on January the 17th 2014 with my 102/1100 achromat and got

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6354013 - 02/03/14 07:04 PM

Roland, Nice image...cannot wait until I too can try color!!!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6359940 - 02/06/14 03:11 PM

Hello Preston,
thank you very much. Yes, I like color pictures more than black and white pictures but your b/w pictures are really very good. I curious to see more of your pictures.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6360273 - 02/06/14 05:45 PM

Nicely done Niklo! Good detail and very natural color...great job

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6360415 - 02/06/14 06:51 PM

Thanks Brian!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Shine]
      #6363598 - 02/08/14 09:36 AM

After reading through all these posts I have decided to take the start in imaging with the cams described throughout this thread. I will be seeking advice along the way (I hope my significant other doesn't throw me out of the house for staying up late at night and ignoring her). Current equipment is SV130 ad CGEM 9.25; with CGEM DX mount.
First question what camera and accessories? ZWOASI120MC, DMK21AU618 or Skyris618C/445M ?? And what Barlow and which scope should I use. My location: Outside Philly and Lake Wallenpaupack (where I will do most of this on weekends since it is a better dark zone, typically can see the milky way)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: cougarone]
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After reading through all these posts I have decided to take the start in imaging with the cams described throughout this thread. I will be seeking advice along the way (I hope my significant other doesn't throw me out of the house for staying up late at night and ignoring her). Current equipment is SV130 ad CGEM 9.25; with CGEM DX mount.
First question what camera and accessories? ZWOASI120MC, DMK21AU618 or Skyris618C/445M ?? And what Barlow and which scope should I use. My location: Outside Philly and Lake Wallenpaupack (where I will do most of this on weekends since it is a better dark zone, typically can see the milky way)




Welcome aboard! Glad you decided to have a go at lunar and planetary imaging...you sure have great gear to handle the job Any of those cameras listed would be a super performer, although I have to admit to being a bit mystified at the new Skyris cameras. The Skyris618C is (and I think it true of all the Skyris cameras) built by The Imaging Source (TIS), the same outfit that makes the DBK/DMK cameras, but is rather more expensive - frankly I think you are paying all that extra money for the Celestron wrapper and packing. I would stick with the DBK21AU618 myself. By the way, for current TIS cams, the "DBK" designation is for color cameras without built in UV/IR cut filters while the "DMK" designator is for mono cams (separate color RGB and/or other filters required). I do not recommend the "DFK" series cameras that have a built in UV/IR filter...historically these have not the best quality filters and are difficult to replace. The new ZWO ASI120mm/mc cameras are proving to be terrific performers (mm = mono, mc = color), though I have had little time to use them for small bore imaging. They are highly recommended.
So, I would suggest you look at either the DBK21AU618 or the ZWO ASI120mc (both are color cameras and will spare you the whole filter thing while you learn to acquire data and process it) and pick up a Baader 1.25" UV/IR cut filter. You also need to download Autostakkert (AS!2) and/or Registax 5.1 or 6 - both freeware - to sort and stack the video data, along with a basic post processing capability like Photoshop elements, GIMP2, or a Corel app and you are off to the races
I hope this helps, and the folks on this forum will bootstrap you up the learning curve...don't be shy about asking questions!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6364243 - 02/08/14 03:03 PM Attachment (16 downloads)

Brian, this is a great thread and I've been waiting for an imaging opportunity to contribute. Lot's of clear nights here in my new neighborhood of Minnesota, but brutal cold. I finally got bundled up and got out and imaged Jupiter last night, it had warmed up to 3 degrees above zero, woohoo. Seeing could have been better but it wasn't too bad.

This is with an Intes MK-65 150mm Mak-Cass on an ASGT mount. Camera is a DMK21 AU618. I have to wrap the DMK in an insulating jacket or it will shut down. For this I cut up a doggie jacket that belongs to my wife's little dog; the little guy always hated it anyway, now it has value.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6366149 - 02/09/14 01:43 PM

Thanks for the advice. Now off to my local Astronomy establishment with charge card in hand.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: cougarone]
      #6368824 - 02/10/14 05:15 PM

Jupiter 6.2.2013. It was good seeing. NexStar 6SE, ASI120MC, 3xBarlow TeleVue. 150/4500mm/F30, Location Prague.





And there is AZ animation.

Jupiter animation


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
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Jupiter 2-9-14 6" refractor, NexImage 5, 1.5x Barlow, 150/1800 F/12, IR Filter

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: TeamHawkins]
      #6370552 - 02/11/14 02:30 PM

Wow!.....clean up the noise and tweek the brightness etc. and that will be a marvelous shot with a 6" achromat. Mike

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6370684 - 02/11/14 03:53 PM

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Nicely done Niklo! Good detail and very natural color...great job

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Thank you very much Brian.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6370691 - 02/11/14 03:55 PM

Hi Proky,
your Jupiter is great for a 6" telescope. Congratulations!
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6371107 - 02/11/14 08:25 PM Attachment (23 downloads)

Jupiter with Orion 5" Maksutov on Celestron SLT mount, NexImage 5 camera. Average seeing, intermittent clouds. A short break in the overcast, inversions, and storms.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #6371315 - 02/11/14 10:17 PM

Some great additions to this thread since I last commented - congratulations to everyone here!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: CosmicDave]
      #6371500 - 02/12/14 12:36 AM

Nicely done Dave! Welcome aboard, I'm glad you decided to contribute here...that Intes MK-65 is a fine telescope. You caught some good detail in there, especially the Oval BA. Small-bore imaging is a blast

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6371502 - 02/12/14 12:38 AM

Another nice pair proky...and a cool animation too

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: TeamHawkins]
      #6371504 - 02/12/14 12:40 AM

Nice achro refractor shot! How do you like that NextImage cam?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rg55]
      #6371508 - 02/12/14 12:43 AM

Another well done image Richard. What do you have for a UV/IR filter on that camera? Does it come with one? Thanks!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6371959 - 02/12/14 10:15 AM

Hi Brian, I think the filter's incorporated into the camera.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6372794 - 02/12/14 05:24 PM

Brien, Niklo thx for your comments.

There is short AZ animation, Jupiter 11.2.2014. NexStar 6SE, 3xBarlow TeleVue and ASI120MC, 150/4500mm/F30. It was bad seeing. I think 4-5/10..
Jupiter animation

Today Jupiter 12.2.2014.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6373498 - 02/13/14 01:11 AM

Here are two shots from last night with my Celestron C6 and ASI120MC in great seeing.


http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/12492892513/in/photostream/



http://www.flickr.com/photos/tychosnose/12473694943/in/photostream/

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6373602 - 02/13/14 04:33 AM Attachment (16 downloads)

Better seeing Sunday night Feb 9. 150mm Intes MK-65, DMK21AU618. RGB processed with AS!2, DStation, Photoshop.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: CosmicDave]
      #6377150 - 02/15/14 01:44 AM

Hello,
I want to show a smal collection taken with a Vixen 80L (80/1200) Fraunhofer achromat.
3rd December 2013 12:44 AM Geman time:


Decemver 15th 2013 11:13:53 PM (German time):


Decemver 16th 2013 12:22:07 AM (German time):


February 12th 2014 7:27:10 PM (German time):


February 12th 2014 7:38:56 PM (German time):




February 12th 2014 7:43:25 PM (German time):


Clear skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6377166 - 02/15/14 02:08 AM

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Nice achro refractor shot! How do you like that NextImage cam?

Clear Skies,
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Loving it so far. It's tough to learn some of the settings for different objects but one you get them the images can be pretty good.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: TeamHawkins]
      #6377175 - 02/15/14 02:25 AM

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Jupiter 2-9-14 6" refractor, NexImage 5, 1.5x Barlow, 150/1800 F/12, IR Filter




Hi,
your Jupiter show many details. The only thing I would try is to reduce the granulation and maybe with some filtes you can reduce the CA and even improve some details e.g. with a green filter you can get very sharp black and white pictures.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6377229 - 02/15/14 04:31 AM

Hello,
I took a video on January 21th with my Bresser newton 114/900. The seeing was OK but not good so there could be more details:

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6378312 - 02/15/14 06:48 PM Attachment (17 downloads)

Jupiter 14 Feb 14 8:00PM CST

Scope FS102 with 2.5 Barlow, extension tube and Philips TouCam...the original.

Seeing last night look poor, with high cloudes covering Jupiter...but the images we Much Better than I would have ever thought

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6378824 - 02/16/14 12:50 AM

Hi Preston,
your Jupiter is great. I would like to change my poor seeing with your poor seeing.
One problem with poor seeing is that it is difficult to find the correct focus. You found the correct focus, that's very good even if you had probably much better seeing than I had with the 6" f/8.
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6379257 - 02/16/14 11:25 AM

Roland, Thanks...I really was not even going to process the AVI's but just let one run.

There was so little to see to try and focus, so I consintrated on the little moon until it looked the best that I could get it...then took 7 avi's at 3 minutes each...and the all turned out like this with the GRS rotating toward the edge...

I swear, sometimes it is just luck.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6379402 - 02/16/14 12:52 PM

Hello Preston,
wow, I never thought that this is possible with bad seeing. Some days ago I really had problems to catch details with a 6" refractor during very bad seeing. How many pictures did you collect per video in this 3 minutes? Did you use autostackert?
How are the details at good seeing which of the ovals could you catch visually? Wtih good seeing the details are probably even better.
The Philips ToCam is a color cam. Did you try a colour movie, too?
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6379523 - 02/16/14 01:58 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

One from last year around this time. Taken with the 6" AP and an ASI120MC.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6379649 - 02/16/14 03:57 PM

Hello Roland,

Visually I could make out the banding, and an enlarged area where the GRS and wake should be...but nothing popped over several minutes of watching.

I did touch up collimation using MetaGuide, though I did not take it all the way as I was concerned that I may be doing more harm than good. Guess that it too may have helped and I should go back an try to get it perfect next time.

The TouCam with Firecapture gets the best results at 10 fps so I am getting about 2050 frames and setting AS2 to use 50%.

As far as the color, I may be recording in B&W...was using K3CCD to record but reciently switched to Firecapture...so much to learn and try to remember

When the ASI120mm gets here I am looking forward to being able to use many more images.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: R Botero]
      #6379654 - 02/16/14 03:59 PM

Stunning image Roberto!!!

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6380568 - 02/17/14 07:10 AM

Hello Preston,
I normally only take a video when view in the eye piece is nice otherwise I got bad results (in former times I only took about 300 to 500 pictures per video).
I'll try to find the focus by watching the Jupiter moons or a near bright star. In former times I tried to focus on the Great Red Spot or special band structures or festoons but if the seeing is bad that does not help.

Have you ever tried to take a colour video with the TouCam?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: R Botero]
      #6380570 - 02/17/14 07:12 AM

Hello Roberto,
yes, your picture is very nice. Great job!
Clear skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6380608 - 02/17/14 07:57 AM

Thank you Preston, Roland!
Roberto


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6380853 - 02/17/14 10:47 AM Attachment (31 downloads)

Hello Roland,

Focus is always a ? for me, as unless I try best focus and were to then process on AVI to check...it is just what looks best on the laptop screen.

I typically can see very little detail in the bands, but if the GRS or it's wake is visible I can generally see a little detail.

Here is one of the better single frames of the last stacked image that I posted...and it looks just about what I see on the screen when I am focusing and capturing AVI's.

Looks to be windy tonight, but if not I'm out for another try and will see if the TouCam will capture color???

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6382087 - 02/18/14 01:18 AM

Hello Preston,
a single frame of my video of January the 17th done with my 4" 1100 mm achromat.

I did 440 pictures per video and the Great Red Spot was nicely seen in the live view.
I'm curious to see your Jupiter in colour. That would be great.
Clear and nice skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6388186 - 02/21/14 06:30 AM

Jupiter 14.1.2014. NexStar 6SE, ASI120MC, 3xBarlow Televue, Prague.

Animation from 17:40 to 19:25 SEC.

Animation of Jupiter and Io



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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6388223 - 02/21/14 07:38 AM

Awesome animation Proky! That color camera does a good job, just like your telescope! How did you record these images? As SER-files with debayering disabled? Just asking, as I'll recieve my ASI120MC this weekend ;-)
Thanks!
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6388365 - 02/21/14 09:29 AM

Hi Roland,

Are the 440 pics part of a larger stack? Im recording about 2050 frames over 3+ minutes and then using about 50% or 1000 frames for the stack.

Your single looks like a very good night if that were on my laptop screen when focusing...normally, I am trying to guess what is best focus on the surface of the planet unless the GRS is in view.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6388400 - 02/21/14 09:56 AM Attachment (28 downloads)

Dear all:
Here is my best jupiter image. I am still a novice in planet astrophotography.

Jupiter 28th.01.2014. Skywatcher 6"F5 Reflector, ASI120MC, 5X Barlow Meade

Edited by bill44026 (02/21/14 10:10 AM)


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6388512 - 02/21/14 10:45 AM

Hi Preston,
thank you, Yes, the night was nice. I looked through the eye piece and saw nice structured bands and the Great Red Spot and thought that could be a chance for a nice short video

No, I just took 440 frames at all in that video (about 15 seconds). I took this video without motor drive (I think the battery was empty) so after 15 or 20 seconds Jupiter went out of the view. The next time I will try 2000 frames, too. Maybe that improves the image quality.

And I will follow the advide to use the moons for focusing if the seeing is bad.

Clear skies,
Roland


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: rik ter horst]
      #6390182 - 02/22/14 10:18 AM

Quote:

Awesome animation Proky! That color camera does a good job, just like your telescope! How did you record these images? As SER-files with debayering disabled? Just asking, as I'll recieve my ASI120MC this weekend ;-)
Thanks!
Rik




Hi Rick. I use avi files from SharpCap. Debayering is disable.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6390339 - 02/22/14 11:37 AM Attachment (18 downloads)

Another Jupiter using my nexstar 4se and zwo asi034 at f/26. best 2500 frames stacked with AS!2.

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: dakotavc]
      #6395111 - 02/24/14 10:09 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

Sorry I've been out of the loop for a bit, you guys keep cranking out cool small bore images and this thread is still on fire Nice work out there Joe, Dave, Roland, and Preston; you guys are getting it done! That is one beautiful Jupiter Roberto, that AP magic is tough to beat. And welcome aboard bill44026, a very nice contribution from you and your Skywatcher
I feel like a real slacker this season, you all have been carrying the load so I thought I should contribute something too. Seeing has been just terrible here this winter, but back on the 11th of February I got the TEC 140 out and captured some video. This image was acquired with the TEC 140, TV 5x Powermate for f/35, and my trusty TIS DBK21AU618 w/ a Baader UV/IR cut filter.
I promise to try and not be down so long in the future if I can possibly avoid it, I really like to keep up with everyone's contributions. This thread has opened a lot of peoples eyes and convinced them that they can play this game even if they don't have a huge SCT or Newt, and that is because of the members who have shown their work here...you folks are terrific!

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6399819 - 02/27/14 09:38 AM

We've only had 3 or 4 clear nights in the last 6 weeks. Finally got a decent night of seeing the other night. It's also the first time I've seen the GRS since December!



Orion 127mm Mak-Cass
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Workflow:
raw2dng (raw conversion)
PIPP (debayer/image crop/convert to TIFF)
Autostakkert (stack)
Registax (wavelets)
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6405541 - 03/02/14 12:25 PM

That's another nice one Evan, one question for you. Stacking the Barlows gave you a 4x magnification, but the image scale looks smaller than I would expect. Did you reduce the size of the final image at all? Just curious...

Clear Skies,
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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6405643 - 03/02/14 01:11 PM

Yes, I did.

I'm using RAW video mode with my Canon DSLR. That exposes all of the sensor noise to each video frame (no NR is being done).

By stacking barlows, I'm increasing the image scale. My scope doesn't have the resolving power to see any more detail with the stacked barlows.

However, by increasing the image scale, stacking/processing, then resizing back down to what I'd get with a single 2x barlow, I can eliminate even more sensor noise, while retaining fine detail.


I've done a direct comparison between a single 2x barlow and stacked barlows resized (the videos were taken within a few minutes of each other) - the stacked barlow image had a little less noise and a bit more detail.

A single 3x or 4x barlow (or extension tubes on a 2x barlow) would be more ideal, since you would have fewer optical elements in the light path. I may try using a T-thread extension someday to get the same magnification with a single 2x barlow.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6406501 - 03/02/14 08:12 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

Hi all,

I thought I'd make a contribution to this thread. These were shot with my EON 120. Seeing was shaky and Jupiter was less than 40 degrees high. It shows how much detail can be caught with a "small" scope. I don't think I was getting this much detail back in 2003 with my C8 and toucam camera. How far we have some!!

Paul M.


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: evan9162]
      #6409132 - 03/04/14 10:40 AM

Thanks for the info Evan

Clear Skies,
Brian


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Sunspot]
      #6409143 - 03/04/14 10:46 AM

Hi Paul, it's nice to see you here Very good image, and the color rendition nice. I notice a distinctly red biased base image when using my SW100ED, do you also see this with the EON? With less aperture it is tricky getting good color saturation, something we often take for granted with larger scopes...

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: BKBrown]
      #6409585 - 03/04/14 02:42 PM

Hi,
I want to show some new pictures.

February 24th 2014
###################
In 114/900 at 9:21 PM



February 25th in the 102/1100 achromat
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6:47:32 PM with 2x barlow:


6:48:27 PM:



In the 114/900 newton at 8:32:48 pm
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102/1100 mm at 28th February
#############################
At 6:26:34 PM:


At 6:27:22 PM:


I tried to modify the colours (RBG balance) with Registax a little bit because the camera makes too blueish pictures.
Here are my results for 6:26 PM:
Minimal change:

Auto change:


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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: Niklo]
      #6410846 - 03/05/14 03:13 AM Attachment (11 downloads)

Quick single sub - Pentax 105SDP, 5x power mate and 383L without guiding or polar alignment. The 383L is usually too sensitive but this is with the light reduction of the 5x and amp off (no cooling running either).

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: NickK-UK]
      #6448941 - 04/05/14 12:37 PM

Jupiter from 2.4.2014. It was very good seeing. NexStar 6SE, ASI120MC, 3xBarlow, Prague

Here si animation 20:01 - 21:13
Jupiter 2.4.2014 animation





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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: proky]
      #6449587 - 04/05/14 07:03 PM

Very fine image for a 6 inch Proky...and your animation is just so Smooth!!!

How many frames were you capturing versas stacking for these images?

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Re: Small bore challenge: Jupiter w/ 6" or less new [Re: PrestonE]
      #6457859 - 04/10/14 05:32 AM

Hi Preston thanks for your comment. I used 1000 frames from 2000 frames for each image. And animation is composed from 74 images.

Best Regards

Proky.


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