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ZuoZhao
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Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO
      #5614932 - 01/10/13 06:26 AM Attachment (153 downloads)

IO shadow just passed on GRS. I begun capture too late. IO almost left Jupiter. unfortunately, seeing very very poor,not a good result. I took all moons together in processing.They line as the time,from up to low are one,two,three and four.

I use:Skywatcher DOB10+TV5X+ASI120MM


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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5614935 - 01/10/13 06:27 AM Attachment (81 downloads)

the later one.

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5614938 - 01/10/13 06:31 AM

Nice images still despite the seeing smearing detail a bit ZZ..!

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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Kokatha man]
      #5614941 - 01/10/13 06:41 AM

Thanks! You are here as me,we have the same daylight.
It hard to get a good seeing in winter,even a sunny day.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5614993 - 01/10/13 07:52 AM

I like them very much!!! Especially your first image
is very good with the 4 moons.
Their relative sizes show up very good.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5615063 - 01/10/13 08:50 AM

fantastic image

Quote:

seeing very very poor



You're kidding. I can send you some videos over and I'm sure you'll never use these words again

Torsten


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: TorstenEdelmann]
      #5615110 - 01/10/13 09:27 AM

outstanding!
I would say that you have excellent seeing very often!

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: martus]
      #5615351 - 01/10/13 11:48 AM

I'd be very interested to see a video clip of this poor seeing . Lovely images ZZ!

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Space Cowboy]
      #5615814 - 01/10/13 04:14 PM

These are exceptional zuozhao! Very beautiful

If you don't mind could you share your workfl


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Space Cowboy]
      #5615816 - 01/10/13 04:14 PM

These are exceptional zuozhao! Very beautiful

If you don't mind could you share your workflow of how you process these?


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Moey]
      #5615965 - 01/10/13 06:05 PM

Poor seeing or not, the moons are very nice.

Kevin


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: astrovienna]
      #5616184 - 01/10/13 08:04 PM

Those a great, poor seeing or not. I love the capture with the four moons, very striking!

I need one of those cameras; it seems so much better than my old NexImage!


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: mrlovt]
      #5616283 - 01/10/13 09:16 PM

Wow!!!!!!!!
I don't know how to descripe my seeing if its poor seeing.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: TorstenEdelmann]
      #5616397 - 01/10/13 10:22 PM Attachment (37 downloads)

Quote:

fantastic image

Quote:

seeing very very poor



You're kidding. I can send you some videos over and I'm sure you'll never use these words again

Torsten




I said that,because if seeing became more worse,the AS2 will lost power. Here is an example at same night. It hard to align. And just cant get a result.


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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Moey]
      #5616413 - 01/10/13 10:32 PM

Quote:

These are exceptional zuozhao! Very beautiful

If you don't mind could you share your workflow of how you process these?




No secrets,I think. Since I learn from here ,all steps you can find from here. But some habit will be individuality. If more,my poor English not support me.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5618296 - 01/12/13 12:30 AM

speak out of your mind bravely

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: wenjha]
      #5618405 - 01/12/13 03:00 AM

Don't worry about your English, you are doing fine! Your English is much better than my Mandarin, Cantonese, or whatever other languages you happen to speak. =)

I am continually impressed by these Jupiter images with the ASI120 and 10" scope. You have set a good goal for me! Thank you!


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: mrlovt]
      #5618943 - 01/12/13 12:07 PM

ZZ, the first image is stunning! To be able to capture every moon and a shadow plus the GRS at such high quality is absolutely incredible. Top shelf all the way. Congradulations and thanks for sharing it

Regards,
Steve

Edited by sfugardi (01/12/13 12:08 PM)


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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5624029 - 01/15/13 09:07 AM Attachment (29 downloads)

The later one. Shadow of IO left GRS. Maybe seeing better(even Jupiter low attitude),or telescope match temperature.

Edited by ZuoZhao (01/15/13 09:09 AM)


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5624036 - 01/15/13 09:14 AM Attachment (35 downloads)

>...It hard to align. And just cant get a result...

You are probably using APs that are way too small and/or not in the correct position. Perhaps you can post a screenshot of AS!2 when you processed that recording? I attached an example of what it more or less should look like.

(Would it perhaps be possible that you send me this blue recording? I'm interested in trying some new things in AS!2 on it)

Edited by MvZ (01/15/13 09:15 AM)


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: MvZ]
      #5624789 - 01/15/13 04:50 PM

Wow Emil, that look overkill, no ? You really have to go that crazy with AP's ?

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: Freddy WILLEMS]
      #5624969 - 01/15/13 06:58 PM

No, doesn't look overkill or crazy to me.

I found this works pretty well most of the time. I actually always use a scheme like this on Jupiter, and know of several others who use a similar scheme. Sometimes with smaller APs, sometimes with less and larger APs (noise blue channels). Sometimes I even add some extra small APs over shadows of a moon or on a moon itself , but I'm always sure that the feature is stable enough to handle that.

But most of the time something like this works well.


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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: MvZ]
      #5625537 - 01/16/13 01:04 AM

HI,Emil.
I know how to avoid this align problem just as you pointed. I say that because when I face this problem then mean I cant get a nice result from them. I found for a pic,for example, if size 100 AP will give best detail,when I use 100 cause problem(like this I post,usually only part of edge show problem),I will ignore them.
AS2 work quite well.I use it chose best video and later stack.Of course,if it can make a precise stack from bad seeing video,that not bad.
If you still want to get this video,I will send to you.I just got your post before I del it. unfortunately,the file large as usually.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5625665 - 01/16/13 05:45 AM

Ok, I understand.

I have send you a PM with details regarding the video.


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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: MvZ]
      #5625969 - 01/16/13 10:45 AM

Hello:
Magnificent images with excellent detail.
Regards
Maximo


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ZuoZhao
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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5626017 - 01/16/13 11:15 AM Attachment (17 downloads)

Hi all! here is the last one. shawdow left Jupiter.

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: ZuoZhao]
      #5626562 - 01/16/13 04:42 PM

Very nice work.

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Re: Jupiter 20130105 in SHENZHEN GRS&IO new [Re: MvZ]
      #5626574 - 01/16/13 04:53 PM

Quote:

I found this works pretty well most of the time. I actually always use a scheme like this on Jupiter, and know of several others who use a similar scheme. Sometimes with smaller APs, sometimes with less and larger APs (noise blue channels). Sometimes I even add some extra small APs over shadows of a moon or on a moon itself , but I'm always sure that the feature is stable enough to handle that.




This number of APs seems reasonable to me. In fact I was using ~75 APs until recently when Steve and Glenn pointed out that a smaller number might work better. In my testing 30 APs was never any worse than 75, and in above average seeing 30 was very slightly better. Not much, but if you looked close you could see the difference. So considering that it runs faster to boot, I'll be sticking with ~30 for Jupiter.

Kevin


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