coopman
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I have read the various scope descriptions, but the reason for the different designations is not jumping out at me. Thanks for any replies.
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Clay
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southmike
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lx90 cheapest of the 3 slightly smaller slightly less accurate ..used to be same ota(glass) as the lx200 come in a f10 ratio
lx200 used to be meades main showboat..more accurate drives is the biggest diff. comes in many versions -classic (older circa 2000)availible in a f10 or some have f6.3 for photo work older style controller. -lx200 gps ..has gps, and a mirror lock, different controller, and plastic gears. -lx200r meades newest lx, great accuracy flatter field still f10 ..uhtc coated optics an option
then you have the rcx line which are the latest tech as far as carbon fiber tubes built in dew heater, colimnate via controller. f7 suppose to have a flat field. But I don't know much 1st hand knowledge
that is the quicky version.
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my refractors
LX200 10"-St120
LX200 8" f6.3-Orion 80ed
LX200 8" f10-Orion 90 Mak setup pic
Meade 102ED LXD650
Sky Watcher 100 ED Triplet prototype
Nexstar 5
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Joseph Gillman
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f8 not f7 and it is very flat! Whether it is much flatter than the f10 LX200ACF remains to be seen. This weekend I will hope to find out.
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LLEEGE
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LX90 = lower end fork mount, no mirror lock LX200 = better fork mount, mirror lock LX400 = Same forks as the LX200. F8 Optics, CF tube, dew heaters and other bells and whistles. (Formerly known as the RCX line)
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Joseph Gillman
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The LX400/RCX fork arms are definitely beefier than the LX200GPS (the SCT model). I am not sure if the forks are the same as the LX200ACF now (that is, did they beef up the LX200ACF fork arms to match the LX400?).
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southmike
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woops for got about the whole rename..
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my refractors
LX200 10"-St120
LX200 8" f6.3-Orion 80ed
LX200 8" f10-Orion 90 Mak setup pic
Meade 102ED LXD650
Sky Watcher 100 ED Triplet prototype
Nexstar 5
etx125
etx70's
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Joseph Gillman
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Maybe we should sticky this so we don't have so many threads about it?
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Joseph Gillman
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LX90, LX90 LNT, LX90GPS: (discontinued but many on the used market)
SCT optics, lightest most portable fork mount, Autostar 497 with ~40,000 goto objects (but most of them are star catalogs)
LX90-ACF:
Looks exactly the same as the above but it has Meade's new ACF optics
LX200GPS (also recently discontinued):
Same optical tubes as the LX90 GPS, but adds a much bulkier, stiffer fork mount, upgraded motors and electronics (they advertised lower periodic error in the drives than the LX90). While the optics itself is the same, a mirror lock is added to the tube and it also comes with a ~1"-travel motorfocuser for the eyepiece end. Autostar 2 instead of Autostar 497 - 140k GOTO objects (again mostly star catalogs but many more features thant he Autostar 497)
LX200 "Classic": (discontinued around 2000 or 2001 when the LX200GPS appeared)
Predecessor to the LX200GPS, this has a large hand controller that looks like the original cellular phone with about 66k GOTO objects. These are older and can be had for less on the used market, but don't confuse the "Ultra High Contrast" label on the corrector plate ring with the more recent invention of "Ultra High Transmission Coatings (UHTC) that came out with the LX200 GPS. Some ebay sellers will happily advertise them as one and the same.
LX200 ACF:
Same exactly, as the LX200 GPS only with the ACF (Advanced Coma Free) optics instead of the venerable SCT.
LX90GPS:LX90ACF :: LX200GPS:LX200ACF
LX400 ACF:
Born as the RCX400 this was the first all new optics design to appear in a while, Meade called it an "Advanced Ritchey Cretien" since it was meant to have the flat coma free field of a very expensive Ritchey Cretien telescope, but "Advanced" in that it has less astigmatism. For reasons discussed ad nauseum elsewhere (don't turn this into another you know what thread please....), this new design is now called "Advanced Coma Free". In addition to all the features of the f10 LX200ACF, the LX400ACF is native f8, another first in the mass produced catadioptric world (f10 being the norm, Meade made some LX200 classics and prior to that LX6's at f6.3 but these were not as popular). The LX400 has a carbon fiber tube (another first for meade after celestron had been offering this for a while) and a fixed primary. The autostar2 controls focusing by moving the enitre corrector plate. A really neat feature is electronic collimation by tilting the secondary mirror/corrector assembly, a feature not before seen except on observatory class instruments.
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southmike
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might as well ad the lx50 and lx100 to the bunch. both pre classic scopes. very good ota's but without goto computers.
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my refractors
LX200 10"-St120
LX200 8" f6.3-Orion 80ed
LX200 8" f10-Orion 90 Mak setup pic
Meade 102ED LXD650
Sky Watcher 100 ED Triplet prototype
Nexstar 5
etx125
etx70's
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Jefferson1964
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Thanks for the link Joseph....
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Astroscan 2000
8" LX200GPS UHTC
ETX-125EC
ETX-125PE
The ETX Travel Buddies.....
DSIProII DSIPro
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LDb
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Quote:
LX90, LX90 LNT, LX90GPS: (discontinued but many on the used market)
SCT optics, lightest most portable fork mount, Autostar 497 with ~40,000 goto objects (but most of them are star catalogs)
LX90-ACF:
Looks exactly the same as the above but it has Meade's new ACF optics
LX200GPS (also recently discontinued):
Same optical tubes as the LX90 GPS, but adds a much bulkier, stiffer fork mount, upgraded motors and electronics (they advertised lower periodic error in the drives than the LX90). While the optics itself is the same, a mirror lock is added to the tube and it also comes with a ~1"-travel motorfocuser for the eyepiece end. Autostar 2 instead of Autostar 497 - 140k GOTO objects (again mostly star catalogs but many more features thant he Autostar 497)
LX200 "Classic": (discontinued around 2000 or 2001 when the LX200GPS appeared) Predecessor to the LX200GPS, this has a large hand controller that looks like the original cellular phone with about 66k GOTO objects. These are older and can be had for less on the used market, but don't confuse the "Ultra High Contrast" label on the corrector plate ring with the more recent invention of "Ultra High Transmission Coatings (UHTC) that came out with the LX200 GPS. Some ebay sellers will happily advertise them as one and the same.
LX200 ACF: Same exactly, as the LX200 GPS only with the ACF (Advanced Coma Free) optics instead of the venerable SCT.
LX90GPS:LX90ACF :: LX200GPS:LX200ACF
LX400 ACF:
Born as the RCX400 this was the first all new optics design to appear in a while, Meade called it an "Advanced Ritchey Cretien" since it was meant to have the flat coma free field of a very expensive Ritchey Cretien telescope, but "Advanced" in that it has less astigmatism. For reasons discussed ad nauseum elsewhere (don't turn this into another you know what thread please....), this new design is now called "Advanced Coma Free". In addition to all the features of the f10 LX200ACF, the LX400ACF is native f8, another first in the mass produced catadioptric world (f10 being the norm, Meade made some LX200 classics and prior to that LX6's at f6.3 but these were not as popular). The LX400 has a carbon fiber tube (another first for meade after celestron had been offering this for a while) and a fixed primary. The autostar2 controls focusing by moving the enitre corrector plate. A really neat feature is electronic collimation by tilting the secondary mirror/corrector assembly, a feature not before seen except on observatory class instruments.
Hi
another addition -- the LX200R fits between the GPS and the ACF models. The LX200R UHTC is identical to the newer LX200ACF (which was just the R renamed, well, because...)
I got my LX200R last October and very soon after that LX200's were changed to the ACF designation.
Just being persnickety
CS Howard
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ATM'ed-8"f/8 and 4.25"f/10 planetary Newtonians
Brandon eyepieces: 48mm,32mm,24mm,7/8",12mm,16mm,8mm,6mm,4mm (yes-4mm; special build in 1985 from 1960 optics)
Double set for binoviewing
Dakin 2.4x Barlow
Vintage ep's:
Gailand 7mm WF, 16.3mm (THE Galoc), Bertele 18mm
Siebert Optics:
Black Knight BinoViewer, 0.6x-1x-2x Power Wheel, 4x-8x telecentric zoom barlow
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Kiwi Nick
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lx90 cheapest of the 3 slightly smaller slightly less accurate ..used to be same ota(glass) as the lx200 come in a f10 ratio
I have the 8" of this series and it's been a lot of fun. I really like it, it's more than repaid the money I shelled out for it in terms of views and adventure. Very portable, good optics but for astrophotography it does suffer from the shakes with the smaller forks.
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lx200 used to be meades main showboat..more accurate drives is the biggest diff. comes in many versions -classic (older circa 2000)availible in a f10 or some have f6.3 for photo work older style controller.
I have never owned any of the classic range but I have read and heard a lot of good things about them being solid performers. These came out well before the LX90 options.
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-lx200 gps ..has gps, and a mirror lock, different controller, and plastic gears.
I adore my 14", it's a step up into the big league and it gives views I only dreamed of through the LX90 8". There's a very cheap Petersen kit I recommend to change out the plastic gears for brass. The forks are big and strong and the wobble factor is significantly reduced compared to the LX90 I have and the 14" is definitely a two man lift. It's seriously heavy, even with Petersen handles.
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-lx200r meades newest lx, great accuracy flatter field still f10 ..uhtc coated optics an option then you have the rcx line which are the latest tech as far as carbon fiber tubes built in dew heater, colimnate via controller. f7 suppose to have a flat field. But I don't know much 1st hand knowledge
I have no knowledge about the new Meades series other than what I read. Some folk have a great time with them, others have looooong tales of woe about bugs etc. Frankly, for the kind of money they are asking I've been too scared to give them a go so I have sent my astro hobby budget in different areas of the hobby and the next scope will be a refractor piggy back rather than an upgrade in the Meade series.
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LX90 8"
LX200GPS 14"
Denk II's and P+S
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Sassan
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Good thread for a new buyer. Info here can make a big difference in what and how much to buy.
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AstroTay
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Hey Joe....ya left out the LX200 R ....
Otherwise....good report "Ya Betcha"
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DSI Pro w CCD Color Filter Set
Celestron NexStar 102 SLT "SteamShip Anne"
Celestron SkyMaster 15X70 Binoculars "Can-U Anne"
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DrBuck
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the next scope will be a refractor piggy back rather than an upgrade in the Meade series.
I really agree with that decision and I have to put in my 2 cents for the TV 85 Aprochromatic refractor as a piggyback scope. IMHO it is just fantastic,---snaps into focus and shows beautiful contrasty wide field views, expecially when used with the Nagler TV eypieces. They are just great-----
-------------------- DrBuck
Roll off Roof Observatory,
CGE on concrete and steel pier
Takahashi FS 152 Fluorite apo refractor
Televue 85MM Apochromatic refractor
12 inch LX 200 gps smt uhtc
Nikon D-90 with 18-200mm AF VR lens
Canon 15x50 IS Binoculars
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Matthew Ota
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That is an odd spot for the Telrad...most folks position it at the back of the OTA at 2 o'clock (facing the rear cell). I cannot see how you can see through it mounted in front of the finder scope.
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Meade LX250GPS 10 inch SCT (Frankenscope)
Orion ED 80
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DrBuck
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That is an odd spot for the Telrad...most folks position it at the back of the OTA at 2 o'clock (facing the rear cell). I cannot see how you can see through it mounted in front of the finder scope.
Matthew, The finder scope is actually to the left of the telrad and makes them both usable, however, the telrad works so well that I have removed the finder scope. The 2 O'clock position has a camera mount that I adapted from the top of a small tripod head. that way, I can point the camera at a star that the telescope is not point to. thanks for your interest----I also like the telrad on the front of the OTA since the extra distance from your eye to the telrad helps with alignment.
-------------------- DrBuck
Roll off Roof Observatory,
CGE on concrete and steel pier
Takahashi FS 152 Fluorite apo refractor
Televue 85MM Apochromatic refractor
12 inch LX 200 gps smt uhtc
Nikon D-90 with 18-200mm AF VR lens
Canon 15x50 IS Binoculars
http://www.flickr.com/photos/697650grr/?saved=1
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mkeehnel
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Uh...the LX50? Bad! Unless you can pick one up for really cheep, or free, stay away. There are many well documented issues with the electronics. I had one for years, but when my classroom burnt up and we lost all 4 of our telescopes (along with everything else, ) I was not sad to have lost the LX50...bless it's heart.
Mark Keehnel
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glenluceskies
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Thanks to all who put together this brief sequence of the history of the LX's.
Could anyone elaborate on some more info which I am gathering?
In particular the LX90 range:
1. What year was the LX90 introduced by Meade?
2. I understand the model sequence was:
- LX90 - LX90 LNT - LX90 GPS - Introduction of the GPS system? - LX90 ACF - Addition of ACF optics?
As a bit of a personal task, I am trying to compile a short history and timeline of the LX90 range. If anyone can provide me with some information, I'd appreciate it.
clear skies...
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* LX90ACF on order
* 8" Newt on GEM
* A small selection of Televue eyepieces
* Canon Rebel XT 350D
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glenluceskies
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I understand the LX90 GPS - with the introduction of the GPS system - was introduced in 2007?
I'm still after any information anyone can provide regarding the history/timeline of the LX90.
clear skies...
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* LX90ACF on order
* 8" Newt on GEM
* A small selection of Televue eyepieces
* Canon Rebel XT 350D
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