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gnowellsct
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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Chucky]
      #5805768 - 04/17/13 10:46 PM

Mike if you become a famous Hollywood Director that's going to play all hell with your commitments to astronomy. But, if you could get Olivia Wilde to pose with the Televue eyepieces I would be much obliged, and find room in my heart to forgive these NEAF absences.

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KennyJ
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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: gnowellsct]
      #5810073 - 04/20/13 04:38 AM

I must be the only remaining regularly active member of the Cloudy Nights forums to have remained blissfully unaware of this situation until today!

I was SO looking forward to the "live broadcasts" as I've done for the past five years, as it's the only way I can actually SEE and HEAR some of the faithful servants and great characters involved.

I'm really going to miss all that this weekend.

That said,I fully understand the reasons given and wish Mike and Astronomics all the very best for the future.

Kenny


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: KennyJ]
      #5810135 - 04/20/13 06:35 AM

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I must be the only remaining regularly active member of the Cloudy Nights forums to have remained blissfully unaware of this situation until today!





Nope, I just found out about it now, while looking for a link for this years webcast. Too bad, I enjoyed it for many hours last year. It was excellent. Oh well. Thanks for doing it in the past, hope you can continue next year somehow!


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: mark8888]
      #5810944 - 04/20/13 01:41 PM

I wish I was there running the webcam again for you all, my people. I miss it!

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Steph]
      #5810980 - 04/20/13 02:02 PM

Missed you too, Steph. Was really strange not to see the Cloudy Night's booth or Astronomics at the show this morning.

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Jim7728]
      #5812009 - 04/20/13 10:49 PM

Dear CN and Astronomics, you guys have been the 'rock' at NEAF for us foreign/overseas astronomers, and have virtually given us remote 'free-pass' to this great event. I am very sorry to hear that your circumstances have not allowed you to be there for now - but I understand your reasons, and thank you for all your time, resources and hard work in previous years. Wishing you all the best, and I hope the NEAF situation might reverse sometime in the future, Cheers, Fox!

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: FoxTrot]
      #5813424 - 04/21/13 03:43 PM

Now if Australia has a version of NEAF and is willing to provide free transportation..........I'll bring a camera....and a scope.

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5813542 - 04/21/13 05:05 PM

<
Dear CN and Astronomics, you guys have been the 'rock' at NEAF for us foreign/overseas astronomers, and have virtually given us remote 'free-pass' to this great event. < I am very sorry to hear that your circumstances have not allowed you to be there for now - but I understand your reasons, and thank you for all your time, resources and hard work in previous years. Wishing you all the best, and I hope the NEAF situation might reverse sometime in the future, Cheers, Fox!>

Well said! - Hear Hear !

Kenny


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stevew
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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5814379 - 04/21/13 11:07 PM

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We always paid $5000 a year for our spot then paid for badges for extra help.



Wow, that's amazing.
If every vender pays a similar sum, it must add up to a considerable chunk of change.
Where does that money go?

Steve


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: stevew]
      #5814384 - 04/21/13 11:10 PM

Paying for facilities, table rental, security, speakers, general staff. I don't think it is a major money maker and the booths have a pricing structure. 12 premium booths run $4800 for the location we were at. Booths can be had for as low as $200.

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stevew
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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5814409 - 04/21/13 11:34 PM

From the post I have read it seems Astronomics was very much missed.
Hope you get to make it next year.

Steve


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: stevew]
      #5814742 - 04/22/13 07:33 AM

As long as I don't have any projects due it shouldn't be an issue as far as going.

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Astronomics]
      #5814807 - 04/22/13 08:17 AM

I went to NEAF last year and its great but cost me a lot of money! Airplane, car and 20 dollars to go in. I dont go this year and bought several good eyepieces.

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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: stevew]
      #5816495 - 04/22/13 10:37 PM

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Where does that money go?




I looked up the price and typically for a 10x10 space its $300, very small for such a show, you can spend almost that much on a flea market table for a 2 day weekend here in the New York area.

where does the money go, in past years no one knows cause it was a private venture ran by one person, even though it was thru RAC.

Now RAC is a non-profit, run by a board of directors and their numbers in attendance, what was collected, spent will be known.


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: stevew]
      #5818578 - 04/23/13 08:19 PM

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Where does that money go?

Steve




My guess would be the community college. NEAF takes over their largest facility and auditorium, a big chunk of their parking, and remember: itís all union labor needed for the prep, etc. Itís also just outside of NYC, one of the costliest areas in the world, in a wealthy neighborhood.


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: George N]
      #5819024 - 04/24/13 01:00 AM

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Quote:

Where does that money go?

Steve




My guess would be the community college. NEAF takes over their largest facility and auditorium, a big chunk of their parking, and remember: itís all union labor needed for the prep, etc. Itís also just outside of NYC, one of the costliest areas in the world, in a wealthy neighborhood.




No, it goes to the RAC. They are a non-profit now and they will have to account for what happens to the money. I've been told that any net profit will go to further public outreach to increase interest in our hobby, as well as make NEAF better.


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Pinbout]
      #5821796 - 04/25/13 11:02 AM

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Quote:

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Where does that money go?

Steve




My guess would be the community college. NEAF takes over their largest facility and auditorium, a big chunk of their parking, and remember: itís all union labor needed for the prep, etc. Itís also just outside of NYC, one of the costliest areas in the world, in a wealthy neighborhood.




No, it goes to the RAC. They are a non-profit now and they will have to account for what happens to the money. I've been told that any net profit will go to further public outreach to increase interest in our hobby, as well as make NEAF better.




Well, I'm sure it "goes to RAC" *first*, but the college will end up with the biggest bite of money. In today's environment, there is no way a publically funded school is going to give up such a huge chance for money.

It's interesting that vendors can't even bring their own chairs; you have to rent the school's. Also the cost for an AC hookup to run one PC was more than I spend on my all-electric house for two weeks!


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Re: Cloudy Nights and Astronomics will not be at NEAF. new [Re: Chucky]
      #5845755 - 05/07/13 02:19 PM

Gosh, just wondering if Meade Instruments was there?
Have not seen the setup nor their scopes available.
Can someone help me and post some pictures?
Jim


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