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Poll:If you own/use an observatory
      #2125019 - 01/16/08 06:13 PM

The results of this poll is the property of Cloudy Nights and may not be reproduced in whole or in part without permission. It is for entertainment purposes only.
How long have you owned or regularly used an observatory?
You may choose only one
Less than one year
One to five years
Over five years
How many observatories do you own or regularly use?
You may choose only one
Only one, who needs more?
Have access to or own multiple observatories
Is your observatory design a:
You may choose only one
Roll off roof
Shuttered round dome
Single clamshell
Multi (bonnet) clamshell
Tent or light panels
Other
What is the building constructed of?
You may choose 3
Wood
Plastic
Fiberglass
Metal
Fabric
Brick
Other
What is the primary roof/dome component?
You may choose 3
Wood
Plastic
Fiberglass
Metal
Fabric
Other
No roof (open air tent)
If equipped with a rotating dome, what is its interior size?
You may choose only one
Eight feet or less
Between 8 and 10 feet
Larger than 10 feet
not applicable
What is the basic shape (footprint) of your building?
You may choose only one
Square
Rectangular
Round
Irregular (bays, storage areas)
What is the approximate squate footage of the building footprint?
You may choose only one
Approximately 8X8 feet (64 sq ft)
Approximately 10X10 feet (100 sq ft)
Larger than 10X10 feet
What is your observatory constructed on?
You may choose 2
Bare ground/gravel
Cement pad
Wood deck
Other
Is your observatory constructed from:
You may choose 2
What plans did you use for construction?
My own design
Vendor supplied plans and my own materials
Vendor provided plans and materials
Is your observatory:
You may choose only one
A permanent installation
Semi-portable
Highly portable
What best matches your use of the observatory?
You may choose only one
All visual
Mostly visual, some imaging
half imaging and half visual
Mostly imaging, some visual
All imaging
What best describes the primary instrument(s)?
You may choose 2
Refractor
Reflector (Newtonian)
Compound (Cats, Maks)
Other
What is the aperture size of the main instrument?
You may choose only one
Under 6 inches
6 to less than 8 inches
8 to less than 10 inches
10 to less than 12 inches
12 to less than 16 inches
16 inches or larger
What is the primary mount in the observatory?
You may choose only one
GEM (German Equatorial Mount)
Fork mount
Altitude/azimuth
Other
Is your primary mount:
You may choose only one
Powered/driven by motors
Unpowered, moved by hand
To locate objects, how is your mount primarily used?
You may choose only one
Strictly visual/finderscope reference
Setting circles
Encoder equipped
GOTO capability
What is your primary mount attached to?
You may choose only one
Concrete pier
Metal pier
Wood pier
Composite (ie wood and metal)
Manufacturer's tripod
Alt/az base (dob)
Other
Do you use dew heaters or dew shields in the observatory?
You may choose only one
Seldom
About 50% of the time
Almost always
What is the true meaning of life?
You may choose only one
To own an observatory
To own a telescope and observatory
42


Votes accepted from (01/16/08 12:00 AM) to (No end specified)
View the results of this poll



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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2125322 - 01/16/08 08:37 PM

Interesting results so far.

For "What is your observatory constructed on", I have bare ground, deck, concrete slab... what else would one be constructed on? I see there are four votes for "Other". What would that be?

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2125638 - 01/16/08 10:47 PM Attachment (48 downloads)

Well, I guess mine's a deck instead of "other". I just think of a deck as a structure with "decking", like Chris's below. I have a plywood floor but no foundation wall.

Sorry about that.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: RobVG]
      #2125684 - 01/16/08 11:09 PM

Great Poll!! It will be interesting to see more and more votes to get an idea of what everyone is doing!

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: HendyPhoto]
      #2125783 - 01/16/08 11:55 PM

I called mine "other" because the building rests on piers, but the floor is unattached to either it or the mount pier and rests independently on the ground. Thinking about redoing that with concrete though because of mice problems.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2125787 - 01/16/08 11:56 PM

Quote:

Interesting results so far.

For "What is your observatory constructed on", I have bare ground, deck, concrete slab... what else would one be constructed on? I see there are four votes for "Other". What would that be?



Well, mine is on a wooden foundation. The "deck" so to speak, is part of the plastic building.
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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Pedestal]
      #2126248 - 01/17/08 09:28 AM

So far there are a lot more "do it yourself-ers" than I expected, and also a lot more roll off roofs.

Also it's interesting that half of us have had an observatory for a year or less.

I had 18 original questions and thought the last one would be fun, to see "who got it" on "42". Looks like about half.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2126336 - 01/17/08 10:15 AM

Oh yeah, what does 42 mean?? LOL OKAY OKAY I get it now, Google to the rescue! I thought I was a nerd with Star Wars!! lol

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: HendyPhoto]
      #2126439 - 01/17/08 11:22 AM

Quote:

what does 42 mean??




I think that was the answer to the big question in Hitchhikers Guide to the Galaxy.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Scott Horstman]
      #2126454 - 01/17/08 11:29 AM

"Deep Think" was the computer if I remember that answered the question to "what is the true meaning of life".

It's also interesting how many people have done their own observatory design.

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Edited by Snaproll (01/17/08 01:27 PM)


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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2126813 - 01/17/08 02:09 PM

Quote:

I had 18 original questions and thought the last one would be fun, to see "who got it" on "42". Looks like about half.




Even if we got it, doesn't mean we answered it that way.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: ~Steph~]
      #2126822 - 01/17/08 02:13 PM

In addition to the "my own design" answers, I'm most surprised by how many have/use go-to. After that, by how many have 8-less than 10" scopes as their primary. I would've thought 10-less than 12" would've been bigger, thinking 10" and up would be a popular range to start with an obs.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: ~Steph~]
      #2126875 - 01/17/08 02:32 PM

I thought the same thing too Steph. We don't have a lot of 'votes' to draw any conclusions, but I thought 10" and 12" would be the 'typical' observatory scope size. Maybe this will change as we get more votes, but the results are kind of interesting. There are a lot more ROR than I thought.

Another thing that is interesting, compared to the "if you are thinking of getting an observatory" poll. In that poll, 2/3rds as of now are looking at a 'prefab', vendor supplied design and materials, where in this poll, most that already have observatories were "do it yourself-ers", or about 2/3rds the other way. Also taking a look at the amount people are willing to spend ($1000-$2000), they must be looking at low cost kit type observatories.

Another interesting thing is that about half of those that have an observatory have done so in the last year.

Again, can't draw anything conclusive, but it is interesting to get some idea of what people are doing or thinking of doing.

In the other poll, I asked how people would power their observatories and a couple are looking at DC and solar panels. I think that is a neat idea if AC power isn't readily available.

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Edited by Snaproll (01/17/08 02:46 PM)


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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2127175 - 01/17/08 04:52 PM

For me, the floor selection was "other" only beacause the shed I used came with a floor, which was plastic as well.

This was a DIY build, and it was a fun learning experience. Power is supplied by extension cord..

I have yet to get/set up a pier. I'd like to though eventually. Not very high up on the priority list.. What I have works for now till I hit powerball..

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Snaproll]
      #2127695 - 01/17/08 08:34 PM

Hey Jim, I think with the realative newness of inexpensive prefab observatories, it stands to reason most would be DIY.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Chris Schroeder]
      #2131147 - 01/19/08 11:49 AM

Hi Steph, I would think that most larger scopes are dobs, so it would also be nice to see how many people actually use a Dob in an observatory. I have a 12" LX200gps in my observatory but it is now only used for visual, and that is not often as I image about 99% of the time. I use a 7" & 9.25" for imaging on a pier next to the 12".

But I also have a 12" Dob and use it in my driveway while I am running an imaging sequence in the observatory, at least on warm nights as I am a wimp anymore about the cold

Overall a very informative poll.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: DeanS]
      #2131453 - 01/19/08 02:29 PM

I dont agree that all big telescopes are dob's. I have one "visual" frend, who use mostly big dob's (24" and 20"). We "imagers" need tracking and that's easier using fork- or german mount. We have 36" on fork and one 20" on fork and the other on german mount. I have to say that here the fork does not differ very much from teh dob because of the latitude 60.5 deg. Our big telescopes are in observatories except the dobsons. They are portable and therefore on the trailers.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: Kaizu]
      #2131639 - 01/19/08 04:03 PM

As the only person who responded to this poll and selected the tent/panel observatory, I should probably speak up.

My observatory is obviously portable. I built it using pictures I'd seen here as a guide. It consists of six 4'x6' PVC frames that I set up in roughly a hexagon shape and use a 3' long PVC brace to frame an open doorway. The frames are clamped together with Irwin Quick-Clamps purchased from Home Depot during a buy two get four sale. The frames are covered with 4 mil black contractor sheeting purchased in 10' x 25' rolls. The edges of the sheeting are reinforced with double layers of black duct tape and screwed to the frames. Each frame consists of an upper and a lower segment that can be separated so they are covered separately. The top section has a flap to seal the gap between the sections. I did this because I have both a refractor and a reflector and the OTA heights are rather different.

Setup time is not long...15 minutes or less. I first setup the scope and then erect the light panel observatory around it.

It's not quite as convenient has a having a dome or a roll-off (no storage, table/chairs, mini-fridge, etc.) but it's much better than having nothing at all in my backyard and it is portable (frames break down to less than 4'x4').

I'm currently repairing storm damage to my fences and have been eyeing "The Fence" observatory which would look very nice in my backyard. What's another couple of post holes, posts, rails, and pickets?

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: o1d_dude]
      #2135492 - 01/21/08 11:36 AM

I guess converting the guest house in the back yard was kinda cheating, Since it was there just begging me to use,, So I did. Can't beat the indoor plumbing, or the warmth emmiting from the heater pluged into the wall.

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Re: Poll:If you own/use an observatory new [Re: gilligan]
      #2135914 - 01/21/08 02:38 PM

Hmm, converting the guest house,....then there's no room for the in-laws in winter.... Seriously, I thought of doing an attic conversion in the guest house but there's a street light out front. Put my observatory in the courtyard(Skyshed POD) and have never been happier. If you don't have to set up and break down life is great!


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