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dymy24
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So first you dig a hole, right?
      #3428280 - 11/03/09 09:36 PM Attachment (45 downloads)

Tired of lugging equipment in and out of the garage. Also tired of using that as an excuse not to observe. Seems a BYO is the answer, so I got started this weekend.

It'll be a Roll Off Roof. My location isn't ideal, but it is close and I'll use it often. I live in a neighborhood with streetlights, but my hous actually shields the backyard reasonably well. I have an existing 12x16 storage shed, but I don't want to tackle making the roof movable, so I'll build an 8x12 dedicated shed. I've drawn dozens of rough sketches. My current plan is 8x8 for the scope, 4x8 for a warm room of sorts. Really just a place for a table, chair, computer, etc.

Hole's dug, base is poured, pier is pretty much done. I'll start on the building on Friday.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428282 - 11/03/09 09:38 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

The light pole was free - a golf buddy had six or seven of them laying around his family's farm

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428287 - 11/03/09 09:40 PM Attachment (33 downloads)

Cutting it to length was a job.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428292 - 11/03/09 09:42 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

Adding a top plate was easy. Carried everything to my pops house, threatened to weld it myself, sttod back and watched as he did the work.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428295 - 11/03/09 09:44 PM Attachment (32 downloads)

The plate isn't as bad as the photo makes it look.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428302 - 11/03/09 09:46 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

Finished the pier by 7:30 PM, couldn't not test fit it all on the base. Hate the time change - dark so early.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428306 - 11/03/09 09:47 PM Attachment (33 downloads)

And as long as we're test fitting, might as well try the mount.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428336 - 11/03/09 10:14 PM

Congratulations! You have made the plunge We'll be looking forward to your observatory starting to take shape!

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3428767 - 11/04/09 07:53 AM

Well done!

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: csa/montana]
      #3428804 - 11/04/09 08:42 AM

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Congratulations! You have made the plunge We'll be looking forward to your observatory starting to take shape!




Thank you. Of course, nothing I do will be an inovation. Every feature will come from something I've learned on CloudyNights. Still, I'll post pictures and keep a log of the build - that way others can avoid my mistakes.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3428894 - 11/04/09 09:55 AM

That's what this forum is all about; sharing ideas & encouraging others to keep on building! Each observatory build brings back memories of when ours was being built.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3429838 - 11/04/09 08:18 PM

Keep up the good work!

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: Digital Don]
      #3431799 - 11/05/09 07:40 PM

Just curious, how deep is the hole and what is that dirt? A gray clay?

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3431901 - 11/05/09 08:54 PM

So first you dig a hole, right?
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Yep, that's how it starts.
Then the fun really begins. I too found help here looking over others' efforts here, so mine, while not quite done, is now usable. It makes for a much more satisfying, and relaxed viewing session. You'll be glad you did it.
I made mine 10x10, and will be adding a 8x8 combined warm (cool?) room/equipment storage room under the roll off rail structure.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: Doug76]
      #3431936 - 11/05/09 09:25 PM Attachment (25 downloads)

Yep, but you have to dig a BIG hole!!!

Good luck, your going to love it.
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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: f29pc]
      #3432361 - 11/06/09 06:02 AM



Now, that's gonna be a big pier!

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: f29pc]
      #3432382 - 11/06/09 06:41 AM Attachment (17 downloads)

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Yep, but you have to dig a BIG hole!!!

Good luck, your going to love it.
Paul




In that photo, the hole is about 2 feet deep and round. The final hole, ready for the pour, was 3.5 feet square along the base, tapered to two feet square at the top. The soil is fairly loose black earth. We have no frost line here.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3433379 - 11/06/09 05:40 PM

I don't know there. You factor in wall thicknesses and 8x8 is going to be too small. You'll learn the hard way like many others. Doen't cost much more to go with an absolute 10x10 minimum. Rethink it I think you might reconsider. Mike

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3433502 - 11/06/09 06:38 PM Attachment (19 downloads)

You might be right. I know it'll be close. Unfortunately, I have space and size constraints. In any event, I framed the floor today, so it would involve some work and additional expense to start over.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3433630 - 11/06/09 07:46 PM

8*8,is what I have and I wish I could have built larger but 8*8 was the max I could build without a building permit.

I think you find after the basic construction that you start to "fit" the observatory to you personally with shelves etc.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #3433731 - 11/06/09 08:46 PM

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I don't know there. You factor in wall thicknesses and 8x8 is going to be too small. You'll learn the hard way like many others. Doen't cost much more to go with an absolute 10x10 minimum. Rethink it I think you might reconsider.
Mike




I agree. I laid out an 8x8, then plopped my mount and largest scope in the middle of it. It was too small. Then I laid out a 10x10, and it was perfect. Nothing comes near a wall, and you can walk around the scope. I used my C6R as my test scope, being the longest one I had. And I found a wall height of 6 1/2ft to be perfect.
But I'm sure you'll be fine.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: Doug76]
      #3434978 - 11/07/09 04:43 PM

Progress Loooooking Goooood!!!

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: RobertED]
      #3442384 - 11/11/09 03:55 PM Attachment (19 downloads)

I work for the gubmint - so today was a holiday. I had planned to get the framing and siding done. Instead, we had the remnants of Hurricane Ida blow through. I finally got tired of sitting in the house pouting about the weather, so I slipped my wet weather gear on and got the framing almost done.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3442918 - 11/11/09 09:32 PM

Zipping along.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: LateViewer]
      #3444342 - 11/12/09 05:21 PM

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Zipping along.




Work is at a standstill for at least a few days. We still have steady rain and high winds, and there isn't much more to do that doesn't involve carrying 4x8 sheets. Not a one-man job in this weather.

Oh well - I spent the first 48 years without an observatory. I can wait a few more weeks.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
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The weather was almost perfect htis weekend - mid 70s, clear, no wind. Played golf and plugged away on the project.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3450116 - 11/15/09 08:13 PM

I like the siding you're using. That's not T1-11 is it?

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: RobVG]
      #3450248 - 11/15/09 09:38 PM

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I like the siding you're using. That's not T1-11 is it?




The brand name may be different, but it's pretty much the same thing. 4x8 sheet, thin, with a pattern of verticle lines every 4 inches. It's functional and paintable, and matches the siding on the storage shed on the opposite side of the back yard.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3456616 - 11/19/09 10:13 AM

Hey looking really nice. I like the T1-11 look myself. I'm looking forward to more photos. I like photos .

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: Jimmy2K63]
      #3457750 - 11/19/09 08:27 PM

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Hey looking really nice. I like the T1-11 look myself. I'm looking forward to more photos. I like photos .




I have about 45 minutes of daylight after I get home from work. For the last few days, that's been just about enough time to discover some mistake I've already made and correct it.

As soon as there is a substantive change, I'll post a few pictures. I hope to have the siding and interior wall complete and the roof rails installed by the end of this weekend. Then I'll frame the roof on the ground and take advantage of all my brothers being at my house on thanksgiving to help me set it on the walls.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3459490 - 11/20/09 06:59 PM Attachment (7 downloads)

It's jus a cell phone camera, but it is from inside the observatory and it is of the sun and moon.

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Re: So first you dig a hole, right? new [Re: dymy24]
      #3460321 - 11/21/09 10:28 AM

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I like the siding you're using. That's not T1-11 is it?




The brand name may be different, but it's pretty much the same thing. 4x8 sheet, thin, with a pattern of verticle lines every 4 inches. It's functional and paintable, and matches the siding on the storage shed on the opposite side of the back yard.




It's not T-111, as I have that on my house; it's thicker than this, & the "stripes" are not an even 4". I have the same siding that you have put on your Observatory, on mine, You will love it!

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