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Den Mama
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mary B]
      #5516400 - 11/12/12 05:47 PM

I installed indoor/outdoor carpet that is very smooth, so exceptionally easy to vac with my wet/dry small vacuum I keep in there.

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mikey cee
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5516517 - 11/12/12 06:52 PM

I concur with Carol. I've had indoor/outdoor in my observatory on a concrete floor since 1986. Looks as good today as it did then. It just doesn't outgas anymore thats all. Mike

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5516655 - 11/12/12 08:12 PM

No padding underneath? My dogs would be screamin' after a few hours. Maybe foam floor tiles with indoor/outdoor carpet on top hmmm

The R-panels for walls and 14 gauge 2x2's for the roof frame are coming Wednesday. I may have a roof by the weekend


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mikey cee
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5516712 - 11/12/12 08:44 PM Attachment (46 downloads)

Nope don't need no foam pad and don't want any. The observing throne would never roll around especially when I'm in it. I sometimes can "scootch" myself around to follow the scope movement without getting out of the chair. Three inch diameter wheels do come in handy too. I replaced the 2" ones in the pic. Mike

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Den Mama
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5516732 - 11/12/12 08:57 PM

Quote:

No padding underneath?




Nope, no padding! I agree with Mikey; with padding, moving my observing chair would be difficult.

If your dogs complain, fold up a blanket for them.


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David PavlichAdministrator
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: csa/montana]
      #5516908 - 11/12/12 10:18 PM

Plywood floor, indoor/outdoor carpeting for me as well. Just gave it a good sweep the other day.

David


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Retsub
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: David Pavlich]
      #5516986 - 11/12/12 10:52 PM

Sure looks well built Mike. >you said: but before attaching the R-panels and Tekfoil insulation< wish you could look at a supply place in Duncanville (near you) at the radiant barrier that isn't the bubble material. Less chance of the moisture build up sometimes. It too gives the same 95% IR rejection from the steel roofing that is needed to help prevent the heat soak for the equipment inside and as soon as the sun goes down with good air movement to get down to ambient quickly. *BW*

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Retsub]
      #5517088 - 11/13/12 12:00 AM

Thanks BW - got a company or product name? Are you talking about Energy Attic?

Prodex also looks interesting. Is this like what you were talking about?

Mike


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Retsub
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5520218 - 11/14/12 09:51 PM

Mike, et al, look at energyefficientsolutions dot com. Lots to read and good info. Some is a vapor barrier if needed. For observatory paint many have forgotten about the ATM Book #3 with the test between white and aluminum paint. Interesting ! I have donated two types of radiant barrier for the side walls under two Ash domes with good results. Many types of material are on the market one being with a thin sheet of fiberglass inside it. Would you want some of those loose strands floating around inside your obs. ? I think not. Deeper reading can be found at the Florida Solar Energy Center with testing of different materials in buildings. Hope this all helps your fine construction project. *BW*

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5524784 - 11/17/12 05:51 PM Attachment (33 downloads)

We got all the 26-gauge R-panel up on the walls this afternoon. Amazing how square the building is - the panels fit perfectly and uniformly all the way around. We squirted expanding polyurethane foam into all the corners, then attached the trim. Tomorrow - roof trusses begin.

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5524788 - 11/17/12 05:52 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

Another view with of the wall paneling.

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5524794 - 11/17/12 05:57 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

The door will be a custom build from 1"x1" 14 gauge steel tube. We'll work that after the roof is done.

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Den Mama
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5525274 - 11/17/12 11:17 PM

Mike, that's absolutely beautiful.

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Retsub]
      #5525298 - 11/17/12 11:42 PM

Thanks BW for the tip. Energy Efficient Solutions is in Duncanville, as you said. I'll call them Monday and discuss what I'm doing with them, and let them recommend the best product. The Foil Bubble material looks good for my application, but I'll let them say so.

Carol - YES! I love the look of that bright white R-panel. Tomorrow's the big day, when the welders build my roof framework. That's when it'll really start looking like a building. Once the roof frame is done, we can make final measurements on the R-panel. Then they'll order the matching white 26 gauge R-panel from Mueller Steel Buildings, cut to the right length.

Also, the "my dogs" I was talking previously about are my FEET! Our Corgis are at home absolutely anywhere. I may just cut some of that foam flooring and cement it onto my shoes!

Mike


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snommisbor
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5527151 - 11/19/12 12:30 AM

That is a big observatory, cant wait to see the inside with all the stuff mounted and ready to go.

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bloodhound31
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: snommisbor]
      #5527412 - 11/19/12 07:33 AM

Great work mate. I can tell you from moving from a three metre round building to a five metre round building, that you are going to LOVE the extra room! There's nothing worse than being cramped around the telescope, forever bumping, tripping and getting caught on cables in the dark.

Awesome sauce.

Baz.


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thesungazer
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: bloodhound31]
      #5527542 - 11/19/12 09:31 AM

That is going to be one fabulous observatory, Mike! I love all the room.

Thanks for the photos.

Greg


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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: thesungazer]
      #5527786 - 11/19/12 11:49 AM

Thanks guys! It's 16'x18' to the outside of the floor deck, and measures 185" x 209" to the inside of the 2x4 stud walls. It's probably gonna be like any room in your house - it looks huge and empty until I start putting stuff in there, then pretty soon I'm wishing I'd made it two or three feet bigger all around!

Got the roof supports and center ridge spine welded up yesterday, cut all the rafter ends to the 13 degree roof slope, and got about half of them welded up yesterday. It was dark when we quit so I only got a few pictures. The welder's there today finishing all the rafters, then he'll order the C-channel purlins and R-paneling for the roof from Mueller. I'll put up progress pix tonight.

Mike


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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5528772 - 11/19/12 08:45 PM Attachment (18 downloads)

This is the ridge spine welded up in place, ready to have the rafters attached.

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Mike I. Jones
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Re: Observatory progress update new [Re: Mike I. Jones]
      #5528777 - 11/19/12 08:46 PM Attachment (24 downloads)

Here's Ken welding up the last of the rafters. It's starting to look like a roof now!

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