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Footbag
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: roscoe]
      #5870920 - 05/19/13 08:59 AM

Update: I built the form, bent, drilled, built and set the rebar cage, set the form around it, leveled, pinned, set and backfilled all but two sonotubes.

I'll get the sonotubes done tonight or tomorrow, I need to add some rebar to the cage and I'm pretty much ready for concrete. If I'm lucky, I'll get it Tuesday.

Right now, everything it tarped over. My body is sore. I'm not sure what the hardest thing was to do, but I think bending the rebar made me sore. Probably would've made a funny video.

It also looks like I'll be finishing the pier top myself. 6 or 7 80LB bags of concrete. I'm both looking forward to that and fearing it.





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Footbag
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5873881 - 05/20/13 02:36 PM

I'm 99% setup. Forms, footers, rebar, etc...

The new concrete guy came over and said no problem. We're setup for a Wednesday pour. He seemed a lot more approachable then the last guy and we seemed to speak the same language. Plus, he's a lot cheaper.

Hopefully all goes well.


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5874280 - 05/20/13 05:26 PM

Quote:

Depends on how windy it gets. In Milford, Utah, we use an anvil hanging from a chain as a wind sock.






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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: EricP]
      #5875647 - 05/21/13 11:43 AM

LOL! The rooster wondered over to see my work. We're on better terms now that I'm not trying to catch him.

Concrete tomorrow morning. Many pictures of concrete curing to follow.


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hm insulators
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5875716 - 05/21/13 12:13 PM

A plant nursery I used to work at years ago for a while had a rooster that looked like the one in the picture; we had named it Roy. It all started when somebody as a New Year's Eve prank dropped off a bunch of chickens at the nursery. Some people who owned chickens came and were able to catch most of the chickens, but Roy utterly refused to be captured and in time he became the nursery mascot. Sadly, he was later captured by a coyote.

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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: hm insulators]
      #5877944 - 05/22/13 12:40 PM

The concrete came at 7:30am. And everything was going perfect. Too perfect!


Then just as we got the form filled, the bottom burst.



Fortunately the rope(Thanks Alex)and the other supports held and we were able to recover nicely. But not before a tense moment.



So the job is done, I'm happy, and it cost 1/3 of what I was quoted by the guy who stood me up three times.


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5879270 - 05/22/13 11:09 PM

Congrats!

Yes, it gets kinda tense when a blow out occurs...


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: zerro1]
      #5881798 - 05/24/13 09:00 AM

The logo...


Well, the form won't be nearly as ugly as it could've been. I cleaned up a lot of the spillage and if anyone looks under the obseratory at the pier base, I'll have a nice story to tell them.

I did order a Dan's pier plate.

I'm about to order my lumber. I don't know whetther to buy the floor and supports first, or all of the lumber all at once. I'm starting to get pressure from the boss to move up to my summer home. And the lumber will fill up my garage. At least I'll have everything though.

I also need to begin seriously looking at my roof design. It will likely determine my wall design.

Edited by Footbag (05/24/13 09:03 AM)


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5888666 - 05/28/13 10:39 AM

The forms are off and the blowout doesn't look so bad...


Overall site picture...


...and I just unloaded most (joists were out of stock)of my lumber in the rain. It looks like it's going to rain for a while as well. It figures.


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tim57064
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5888690 - 05/28/13 10:52 AM

Wow, thats a huge footing and pier. what do you hope to put on there in the future, a 24" Sct Or larger?

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Norm Meyer
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: tim57064]
      #5888737 - 05/28/13 11:25 AM

Adam,
Nice looking pier. It ought to be rugged enough
to hold whatever you want to put on it. What I did,
because I'm lazy, after I poured my footing, is started
building my pier with cement blocks (cause I already had them). When I was approaching ground level I looked at the
blocks and was afraid there was too many places for frost to
grab hold and start lifting or shifting the pier. I had and
old 55 gal drum with one end open. I looked at it and measured the diagonal of the pier which was 16 x 16 inches.
Voila! It was just under 24" so I cut out the other end of the barrel and slipped it down over the blocks and filled the surrounding area with cement.It saved me from having to
build a form and mixing as much cement. Ihe pier has been
there for 17 years and has never been affected by frost.
Norm


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: tim57064]
      #5888750 - 05/28/13 11:29 AM

Quote:

Wow, thats a huge footing and pier. what do you hope to put on there in the future, a 24" Sct Or larger?




I don't know what may go on there in the future, probably a combination of OTA's. But now, I don't need to worry about it.:) Only 6" below it was bedrock, so I figured over pour it above ground. The price is pretty much the same for a cu yard or two cu yards after delivery as well.



Edited by Footbag (05/28/13 11:44 AM)


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tim57064
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5888808 - 05/28/13 12:00 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Wow, thats a huge footing and pier. what do you hope to put on there in the future, a 24" Sct Or larger?




I don't know what may go on there in the future, probably a combination of OTA's. But now, I don't need to worry about it.:) Only 6" below it was bedrock, so I figured over pour it above ground. The price is pretty much the same for a cu yard or two cu yards after delivery as well.




Well it will be extremely solid for what ever you want to put on it.Will be following your posts.

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dmdouglass
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: tim57064]
      #5888857 - 05/28/13 12:19 PM

Love the logo !!!
And the cement job seems to have been saved quite well.

I look forward to watching your project grow.


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audioaficionado
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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: dmdouglass]
      #5889036 - 05/28/13 02:01 PM

That thing ain't goin' anywhere until the next ice age scrapes it off .

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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: audioaficionado]
      #5889404 - 05/28/13 05:30 PM

Great logo!

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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: hm insulators]
      #5889416 - 05/28/13 05:37 PM

Well. The rain stopped for two hours and I notched three of the four 6x6's. These are my first and toughest cuts, butt hey went very well. I'll spare you the pictures, well at least until I get some good ones.

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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5892121 - 05/30/13 10:42 AM

So, I unloaded my lumber in the rain on Tuesday. It turns out the lumber company gave me their last 2x8's and were out of 2x6's and 3/4" plywood. That's kind of surprising to me. They seem like common materials.

Even worse, since I got the end of their stock, I don't think my lumber was the best. Two of my 2x8's had bad warps to them. I didn't realize it and I took my square off a warped board and built the floor slightly out of square. I could barely sleep last night thinking about it, so I woke up early this morning and fixed it.

It's both a good thing and a bad thing that I was shorted lumber. If I had it all, I likely would've kept building not realizing it was out of square. Well, after dreaming about it all night, it was a 10m fix. Can't wait to get back to work.



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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5895696 - 06/01/13 09:33 AM

Update: Last night it was clear and I was standing on the floor of my new observatory. I'm a lot less concerned about wall height. I should have a nice view of the sky right down to the treeline.

As for construction, I got my 'shorted' lumber yesterday. The joists are in as well as the additional bracing around the pier. My next plan is to plane a few of the warped braces before fastening the plywood floor down.

I have one thing that's beginning to bother me. My rear roof supports will be 12' high. They will be anchored with post bases and braced off each other, but I didn't have a good plan for bracing in line with the observatory. I should've extended my beams, but I wanted to keep the area open behind it. Now I'm rethinking it. It's possible that the horizontal roof supports will brace them sufficiently, but I'm not confident yet. I may have to add bracing below the building off the post.


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Re: Loose Rooster Observatory new [Re: Footbag]
      #5897676 - 06/02/13 11:43 AM

Update: The floor is down. Doing the floor in 90F weather was the toughest thing I've done so far. Not only was it very heavy, I was moving slowly and the heat was playing tricks on me. I must have lost my safety glasses and tape measure 20 times. It's funny because I've moved 3/4" ply by myself before, but never pressure treated. I was kind of surprised by the weight.

My lumber delivery was very intimidating. I ordered 6x6x16's for the rear roof supports. I just figured they would be unmanageable for a skinny astronomer. Well, it turns out they will only weigh 125lbs when cut down. I've raised basketball hoops heavier then that, so I'm not so worried. I think I can manage it with a friend. Now, getting up the the top of it to mount the horizontal ROR support is going to be tough.

Framing the exterior walls is next. The only stumbling block I have is getting the horizontal support 4x4 sufficiently built into the top of the observatory frame. It needs to be perfectly flush, but seems like it will prevent me from overlapping my top plates. I may need a creative solution for that.

Side View

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Front View

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Big wood!

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Edited by Footbag (06/02/13 12:02 PM)


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