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wavecloud
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Siding?????
      #6109823 - 09/30/13 07:01 PM

Does anybody have a good idea for inexpensive observatory siding?

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mikey cee
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6109949 - 09/30/13 08:20 PM

Yeah concrete block doesn't need any siding.

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wavecloud
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #6109987 - 09/30/13 08:41 PM

I mean for a wood framed building.

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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6110119 - 09/30/13 09:46 PM

He's being funny . No, it's all relatively expensive. I used tongue and grove 5/8th inch plywood. Looks good and really helps stiffen the structure up. If you go with something thin, consider t bracing to stiffen the walls. You do have a rolling roof on it.

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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Raginar]
      #6110190 - 09/30/13 10:25 PM

I went to the local sawmill and got rough-sawn 1 x 12 boards for less than half the price of dressed lumber at the building supplies place. (Check out my thread here.)
Michael


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wavecloud
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: MHamburg]
      #6110195 - 09/30/13 10:28 PM

That's a good idea.

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wavecloud
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6110197 - 09/30/13 10:29 PM

Which thread?

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csa/montana
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6110292 - 09/30/13 11:15 PM

His construction thread on this forum.

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Megabusa
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Raginar]
      #6110409 - 10/01/13 12:16 AM

Quote:

He's being funny . No, it's all relatively expensive. I used tongue and grove 5/8th inch plywood. Looks good and really helps stiffen the structure up. If you go with something thin, consider t bracing to stiffen the walls. You do have a rolling roof on it.


5/8" Fiber board If you are referring to the finished product then Yep ! I did the same thing Inside and Out ,Over here it's called 5/8" Smart siding and comes per primed , Extra Strong needed for ROR is a must I think too, and I have a Dome go figure , I used it inside also knowing I'm going to be banging Myself around in the dark.

Edited by Megabusa (10/01/13 02:05 AM)


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Alex McConahay
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Megabusa]
      #6110441 - 10/01/13 12:56 AM

We used T-111 and were generally dissatisfied with its wearability. (Some have deteriorated after five-to-seven years to the point of replacement.)

Weyerhauser makes a fiberboard siding I have had on my home observatory forever without any downside. It has to be painted, though.

Alex


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Megabusa
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Alex McConahay]
      #6110516 - 10/01/13 02:21 AM Attachment (14 downloads)

If you look at manufactured Holmes with 4'x8' sheets of Siding on it , that's Smart Siding or looks just like it , where I get it it comes Per Primed for paint 5/8" Thick 4'x 8' Fiberboard sheets , Ive been using and working with it for years ,I really like it, But I do live in AZ where it's dry .

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RGM
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Megabusa]
      #6110597 - 10/01/13 05:23 AM

Smart siding for me also. It is quite rigid and takes paint very well. I researched quite a bit, and this was the least expensive option I could find that gave you a "finished" look.

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Re: Siding????? new [Re: RGM]
      #6111049 - 10/01/13 11:43 AM

Wavecloud,
You can also consider Hardiboard (concrete). It doesn't rust, rot, or smell bad in wet weather. Paintable or prepainted. Installed right lasts for ~75yrs. If you have 24" framing, you're golden. It doesn't like hard point type impacts (baseballs). I'm putting on my house. I got ~1500sqft for $500. Frame for 24"OC & you can Tyvek wrap the walls & insulate inside.

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wavecloud
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6111066 - 10/01/13 11:52 AM

Startraffic,
I've heard of that stuff.
What format does it come in?


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wormstar
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6111177 - 10/01/13 12:59 PM

I just used vinyl to match my other out building it's kind of fun and easy to install.
Keith


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telfish
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wormstar]
      #6111276 - 10/01/13 01:55 PM

I went to Lowes and they had an odd box of vinyl siding 2 squares left over. It was $200 marked down to $126 I offered them $60 for it and it was mine. More than enough to clad my Obs.

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telfish
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wormstar]
      #6111280 - 10/01/13 01:56 PM

(Accidental double post removed by moderator)

Edited by csa/montana (10/01/13 02:37 PM)


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HunterofPhotons
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6111326 - 10/01/13 02:14 PM

Quote:

...What format does it come in?




Google is your friend:
Cement board products
You probably want to add in the cost of a dedicated saw blade that's made for cutting cement board.
Installation works the best with an air gun, rather than a plain hammer.
It would help to know what kind of climate you're in.
One usually tailors materials choices to specific areas of the world.

dan k.

Edited by HunterofPhotons (10/01/13 02:17 PM)


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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6113264 - 10/02/13 02:22 PM

Wavecloud,
I found mine at a building materials auction. It is 9" high, 8ft long, 1/4" thick with a 1" overlap. I'm drilling holes every 24" for decking screws & washers. I don't drive them down tight, just snug. I also got a load of another 4500sqft of 9"x8ftx3/8" for $750. Very cheap but FUGLY I don't care what it looks like as long as it keeps the weather out. SWMBO wasn't amused.

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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6113299 - 10/02/13 02:42 PM

When I priced out vinyl siding for my 11x9', the prices ranged from $300 to $1500. The nice thing was it was an easy installation.

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wavecloud
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6113367 - 10/02/13 03:27 PM

If necessary I'll bet you could make it look nice by staining or sanding it.

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tim57064
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6114436 - 10/03/13 12:55 AM

Quote:

Wavecloud,
You can also consider Hardiboard (concrete). It doesn't rust, rot, or smell bad in wet weather. Paintable or prepainted. Installed right lasts for ~75yrs. If you have 24" framing, you're golden. It doesn't like hard point type impacts (baseballs). I'm putting on my house. I got ~1500sqft for $500. Frame for 24"OC & you can Tyvek wrap the walls & insulate inside.

Clear Dark Skies
Startraffic
39.138274 -77.168898



I used basically the same stuff on my house,concrete composite 50 year warrantee, only it was 7"wide x 12' long sticks. The difficulty I had with it is in the attachment to the structure. A slight pain in the rear when you use an air nailer,you have to be extremely careful not to put too much air pressure thru the gun or you will blow right thru the stuff very easily. Of course that is the only way to nail it too, with a pneumatic air nail gun.

Edited by tim57064 (10/03/13 10:30 AM)


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tim57064
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: wavecloud]
      #6114445 - 10/03/13 01:05 AM

wavecloud,even though I see that you have commented on a forum of my OBS build and more than likely have read what I am using, I thought I would let you know here that I have chosen to use 1/2" 4'x8' cdx plywood for board and batten siding for the rough sawn look. I am going to paint it over the next couple of days in my garage before attaching it so that it is protected right off the bat. Raining now and for the next 3 days helped in making this decision.

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Re: Siding????? new [Re: tim57064]
      #6114850 - 10/03/13 10:21 AM

Tim,
Yeah, you have to be careful with it. Too much pressure & it'll blown through, too big it'll blow apart. My neighbor used copper roofing nails with the big orange spacers on his. He made a lot of cracks in his by missing the head or his hand. That's why I went to drilling & screwing. 2 drills one with the TiO2 drill bit, the other with the screw bit & the clutch set to bring the screw to just snug & slip.

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Mary B
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Startraffic]
      #6115583 - 10/03/13 04:27 PM

I have LP Smartside 4x8 panels on my observatory and house.

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roscoe
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Re: Siding????? new [Re: Footbag]
      #6116350 - 10/03/13 11:40 PM

I'll second Michael Hamburg's suggestion of local rough-cut lumber....most suburban and all rural areas have at least one sawmill per town (well, maybe not in the desert...) where you can buy lumber at 1/4 to 1/2 the price of the big-boxes and chain-store lumber dealers.
All sell lumber that is 'rough' - means you can see the marks the saw left as it cut the board, and it has somewhat of a fuzzy/splinter-y surface, many also have giant planing machines that will make it smooth, just like the big-box lumber.....
R


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