Paul Milligan
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Video Cameras, Integrating Video CCD's and Image Intensifiers do not have the high resolution of high end CCD cameras or DSLR's but you can still achieve fantastic results aligning, stacking and processing video frames.
How about we start an image gallery to show what the video camera can do!
Look forward to seeing your images!
Clear Skies
To get the gallery going :-
M42 - Orion Nebula (&M43)
40 Minutes LRGB
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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Paul Milligan
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And another image!
B33 - Horsehead Nebula
40 Minutes
False HA Filter Applied
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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smokin oakum
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Great idea. Also just like the other forums, it would be nice to explain the way you processed the image!
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Neil Horne @ Ustream, or Y Live
CGE EQ mount with rings
Orion 12" XTi f/4.9
MoonLite Focuser
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Paul Milligan
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And another one for luck!
NGC 1973 - Running Man Nebula
30 Minutes
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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Paul Milligan
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And another!
M13 - Hercules Cluster
30 Minutes
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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smokin oakum
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Great shots, Paul! I realy like the running man!!!
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Live, real time views of the night sky
Neil Horne @ Ustream, or Y Live
CGE EQ mount with rings
Orion 12" XTi f/4.9
MoonLite Focuser
MallinCam Hyper Plus Color
Round Table Platform
Cape Fear Astronomy Club
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rolandlinda3
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Paul, I don't know how to start a gallery. Do you? Starting a thread is not a gallery, however, and it will be hard for people to search pictures/titles/etc. if it is in thread form. Perhaps a moderator or you may know how to start a gallery for posters. I know there are individual galleries, but I don't know how to establish a group one. Once done, then a moderator (I presume) can put a thread with a sticky that tells where it is, etc. This make sense? Roland
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Paul Milligan
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Roland
My term gallery was just to create a thread where Video images can be uploaded and viewed. There is nowhere to do this on CN accept upload images into the CCD Imaging & Processing thread. However because Video images do not match the quality of high end CCD's the video images can be frowned upon even though a great deal of effort goes into producing them. If there is a way to have an official Video gallery that would be great, if not at least there is a thread where we can now upload images showing what can be achieved using our video hardware.
Paul M..
Here is another!
M82 - Cigar Galaxy
60 Minutes
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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rolandlinda3
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You might ask...they may can start a category-gallery where people can put individual galleries. On the sketching forum, if someone has a nice sketch, that becomes an individual thread, which works well. A thread with several hundred posts of a picture or sketch, however, can get really cumbersome. Roland
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Sky Captain
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How about we start an image gallery to show what the video camera can do!
Great idea Paul! I haven't prosessed any yet but I have screen photo's of my images. Is that ok here?
Here is an example:
M13
10" SCT
2.1 sec.
f6.3 FR
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http://scopebuilder.webs.com/
Kerry.
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Paul Milligan
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Kerry
Screen captures are more than welcome and yours looks real nice. Real tight detail in your M13, great job!
Paul M..
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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smokin oakum
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I'd say if Randy or the other moderators deem it to be a good topic, it would just be a sticky that we would leave to this forum. Lets face it, while you can get impressive photos with these systems, we should not compare them with actual long exposer photos. If we kept it here, we could not only share what can be done with these cameras, but share which targets we can add to the huge list of targets that can be seen with them!
Clear skies
Neil
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Live, real time views of the night sky
Neil Horne @ Ustream, or Y Live
CGE EQ mount with rings
Orion 12" XTi f/4.9
MoonLite Focuser
MallinCam Hyper Plus Color
Round Table Platform
Cape Fear Astronomy Club
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Sky Captain
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Kerry
Screen captures are more than welcome and yours looks real nice. Real tight detail in your M13, great job!
Paul M..
Thanks Paul...and for starting this thread. 
Here is a "bad" Ring nebula screen shot.
10" SCT
2.1 sec.
f6.3 FR
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http://scopebuilder.webs.com/
Kerry.
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rolandlinda3
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Paul, can you annotate some of your shots whether they are processed (look like they are) or if they are single frames of unprocessed video, etc? And, of course, the integration times or camera settings are helpful so people can duplicate or try the settings. Of course, if it is heavily post processed they will not be able to duplicate the view in live video at the scope. Roland
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Paul Milligan
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Roland
All my images have had the video exposure times specified collecting integrating frames of 2.6 seconds (max available on the GSTAR-EX). The frames have then been streamed from an MP4 recorder to a laptop using Videostudio to create a raw AVI file. I then use Videodub to strip out the audio and decimate the AVI file to the correct fps rate. I then align and stack the frames using Registax and save to bmp. I then import the bmp file into Photoshop Elements to stretch the midrange, tighten the image and clear out the noise.
Here is another image
M81 - Bodes Galaxy
60 Minutes
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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rolandlinda3
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thanks for the info. i recommend including that information on your images because the majority of posters do live video astro...you images are not what they can expect without postprocessing. thanks.
Roland
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MikeML
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Here's an Orion Nebula from last February. Watec 120N, William Optics 66mm SD. Aquired in Astroart. Processed in Registar and Photoshop CS
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Mike
CGE 1100
TV 85
FLT-110
Maxscope 40
Megrez 80, etc., etc.
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MikeML
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M27 Taken in June. Forgot to mention the Baader color filters. Same setup as M42
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Mike
CGE 1100
TV 85
FLT-110
Maxscope 40
Megrez 80, etc., etc.
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Bowmoreman
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Mike, that is really nice!!!
What Camera did you use???
clear skies
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Dave
Ustream
YLive
XT10i, RTP, CGE, TMB80SS, SN8
31T5, 22T4, 13Ethos, 8Ethos, TV 3-6 Zoom; Paracorr
MallincamColorHyperPlus,SBIG STV&237A;CanonRebel Xti
WilderSkiesObservatory(BYO #90)
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MikeML
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Thanks, A Watec 120N. It was given to me as a gift so I kinda' feel obligated to bring back some pictures to the folks back home.
Here's my M31, didn't use any filters. The images don't compare to the ones taken with my CCD, but when you consider they're only about 8-1/2 seconds exposure, pretty amazing none the less.
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Mike
CGE 1100
TV 85
FLT-110
Maxscope 40
Megrez 80, etc., etc.
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Paul Milligan
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Mike
A real nice M31 - you've captured the nebulosity and 3D spiral perfectly. Thats one to be proud of!
Keep the images coming
Paul M..
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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Paul Milligan
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Here are few more :-
M1 - Crab Nebula
90 Minutes LRGB
William Optics FLT110 [TEC]
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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Paul Milligan
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Another
M51 - Whirlpool Galaxy
40 Minutes
Takahashi Epsilon 160
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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Paul Milligan
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Another
M64 - Blackeye Galaxy
40 Minutes
Williams Optics FLT110 [TEC]
GSTAR-EX Integrating CCD Video Camera
Videostudio 7, Videodub, Registax, Photoshop Elements.
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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http://www.eyetotheuniverse.com
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MikeML
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Thanks Paul,
I'll have to capture some more shots with the video cam. BTW, checked out the images on your website. Great stuff.
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Mike
CGE 1100
TV 85
FLT-110
Maxscope 40
Megrez 80, etc., etc.
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Gord
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Here are some images I've acquired over the years with my MallinCam. Certainly not as good as what has already been posted here! But they are with much less capture time, and almost as good as the live images:
This was my very first image ever, taken on the first night I got the camera. In Toronto on an average night with an Orion Apex 102 (4" mak-cass). This was 15 x 2sec each. This was not as good as the live view on the monitor looked, a pretty common thing in video astro. I find it takes stacking quite a few images and some light processing to equal the "live" view.
Now roll a little while forward in time and under slightly better conditions with an 8" f5 newt, and this is the same target:
I still hadn't figured out the whole stacking and processing thing yet at this point... this image might have been a minute of 2sec images.
And finally, a year or two later still with my 10" newt this time. This was about 30 2sec images stacked. Pretty close to what I see live realtime:
Maybe one day I'll figure out image processing a bit better and be able to produce a pretty image. Enjoy, and I hope this helps illustrate how things look with various different scope setups.
-Gord
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* Celestron C10/Normand Fullum primary
* Tasco 11TR/Normand Fullum primary
* Orion StarBlast
* Orion Apex 102
* SkyWatcher 80ED
* Celestron CG5a mount
* MallinCam Pro & Color II
* Lots of other astro toys
...and the best wife I could ever dream of for letting it all happen!
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Paul Milligan
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Gord
A nice set of images of M82. Its very interesting to see what a difference aperture and sky conditions make to the final image.
Great job!
Paul M..
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Tak Epsilon 160 / 16 Inch Custom Truss Dob
WO FLT-110 [TEC] APO / WO Megrez 80FD APO
EQ6 Pro / Canon Rebel XTi / QHY5 / GSTAR-EX
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Chris Schroeder
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These are really great, I made it a sticky so it stays on top of the forum. But please lets just post images to this thread.
Thank you!
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Mallincam Color Hyper Plus
10" DSH with SC DSC, CPC 800 XLT
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RandyR
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And remember this forum is for Assisted Visual Observing. NOT photo/electronic imaging. There are other forums for that. It your Assisted Observing device does integration of multiple framse that's fine, but images that are captured and post-processed belong in the imaging fora.
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Sky Captain
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This is the best I can do at my poor viewing location of the Dumbell Nebula. I'm hoping to get a better screen picture at a darker location.
10" SCT
2.1 Sec
F6.3 FR
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