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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: darethehair]
      #5393379 - 08/29/12 02:44 PM

Untill I get a remote there wont be any more testting,comparisons by me.The 300 does not have rs capacity as the larger one does,but it does have coax capacity.The wires are what is needed,there are no headers in the small unit (300).(for a simple button remote)
I also like the simple remote switch vrs a computer pgm...as in outreach I dont use a computer..just a monitor..
I like the KISS system..

But the camera works well just as it is,once the settings are made ,many subjects are just point and shoot.


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James Cunningham
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5394432 - 08/30/12 07:51 AM

I just ordered that wired remote. Once you get yours installed, PLEASE show us pix and tell us exactly which wires go where. What scope were you using and did you have any reducers on it. Thanks.
Jim


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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: James Cunningham]
      #5394711 - 08/30/12 10:54 AM

I used a AT6RC with a x.5 reducer on the camera..I did not use any filters,but next time I will,I expect better results.I need to get a small soldering iron to install
the switchs...


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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395876 - 08/30/12 11:49 PM Attachment (108 downloads)

Well I went out to Radio Shack and bought a 15 watt soldering iron..And I did it!
I used the white cable with power and video and the 5 switch conections....
My cable went like this..

2x red =power
2x black and 1 brown = ground
yellow =video

purple =enter
orange =down
gray =up
white =left
green =right

Now when u remove the back frame on the right are pads that are labled...near the black/white connector..
they run vertical and are labled as
L
R
SET (ENTER)
UP
DO (down)

YOU CAN SEE POWER AND VIDEO..thats it ,works great..
I will try and add photos...

Edited by mega256 (08/30/12 11:52 PM)


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395899 - 08/31/12 12:06 AM Attachment (89 downloads)

Another view
There are 2 places to wire to...the vertical pads...as labled...
OR
the points in blue..Its up to you...I did the blue points..This was simpler for me to do with-out more tools.
L=left,R=right,E=enter,U=up,D=down....G=common(ground)
5 wires and common...
also V=video (center pin),,,then also +12volts.

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 09:24 PM)


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395927 - 08/31/12 12:26 AM Attachment (79 downloads)

More mod pics..
Drilled hole for cable

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 12:27 AM)


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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395929 - 08/31/12 12:28 AM Attachment (67 downloads)

wire points besides vertical pads..

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 12:29 AM)


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395931 - 08/31/12 12:30 AM Attachment (69 downloads)

Picture for above dwng..

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 12:30 AM)


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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5395935 - 08/31/12 12:31 AM Attachment (76 downloads)

Done fin.....All buttoned up..(lol)...
ITs done ,just add power and the video to the Monitor or pc
and works great...also the back buttons still work also.

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 09:30 PM)


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alexaggie
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5396055 - 08/31/12 03:10 AM

Great work! Did you solder the cable into headers to put on there? or did you just solder the control directly on to the board? It seems that this route would greatly streamline all of the cables and things coming off the camera.

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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: alexaggie]
      #5396335 - 08/31/12 09:51 AM

I went to the board,there is a little more room...But you can use the header and a meter to check you have thre right solder pads. as per dwg and photo..The header is great if u can solder to it,being very very small..BTW the original switchs,video all work as b4 the mod.

Edited by mega256 (08/31/12 09:54 AM)


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5396721 - 08/31/12 01:12 PM

Quote:

I went to the board,there is a little more room...But you can use the header and a meter to check you have thre right solder pads. as per dwg and photo..The header is great if u can solder to it,being very very small..BTW the original switchs,video all work as b4 the mod.




So now you can do the deeper evaluation/comparison that we are hoping for? Maybe an easy question to start off with: is it 'better' than the SCB-2000? You have already stated that it is a lot more sensitive (which sounds good to me).


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5396722 - 08/31/12 01:13 PM

Can you post a picture of the wires once they have been connected and does it work?

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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: darethehair]
      #5397331 - 08/31/12 09:10 PM

Im not saying that this camera is better than my trusty samsung 435...It does seam to be more sensetive.It seams to me that at the same 4 seconds of exposure time,the lntech 300 seams to get more exposure of the subject...This can be bad or good depending on ur use and conditions....
The moon is out now and I will hve to wait to do some deaper test.....And Yes the remote works...(Jim)..To realy understand how the wires go on you need to look at your camera(pull the 4 screws off for the back frame,as above).
This is only for a 300 type camera...The other units are different. ..If you are not able to use a ohm meter,this button option mod may not be for you..Cables may be different colors ect and should be traced out..
This was as easy as my samsung 435 buttton mod.


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mega256
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5399584 - 09/02/12 12:40 PM Attachment (126 downloads)

Some results..from 9-1-12...M27 AT8RC x.5 reducer..
These were at x1024,,,,med agc,.6...
Adjustments of brightness and AGC are touchy....and work
together..
These 2 pics are with an Orion uv/skyglow imaging filter on.

Edited by mega256 (09/02/12 12:57 PM)


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5399589 - 09/02/12 12:43 PM Attachment (102 downloads)

The SDC435 was more simpler for me to use..BUT This camera
may just be new to me...again x1024 (17 seconds)M27

At High AGC this would take much less time.

Edited by mega256 (09/02/12 12:47 PM)


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alexaggie
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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5400871 - 09/03/12 10:58 AM Attachment (120 downloads)

Finallly got mine out last night for the first time. This is my first attempt at using a camera with my scope, but it worked pretty well I think... Got this pic of M42 early this morning...it is processed, but I was amazed at the lack of noise. [image][/image]

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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: mega256]
      #5401021 - 09/03/12 12:42 PM

Quote:

Some results..from 9-1-12...M27 AT8RC x.5 reducer..
These were at x1024,,,,med agc,.6...
Adjustments of brightness and AGC are touchy....and work
together..
These 2 pics are with an Orion uv/skyglow imaging filter on.




Bob,
Great shots! I agree this one is not as simplistic as the Samsung. I think it has more potential but requires much more tweaking for every object. I was trying to put together a settings post but I have found that it is never the exactly same in almost all the settings from object to object. I am having problems getting the color to really come out. I have resorted to “Night” mode just to play with the AGC, brightness etc for now. Also to get a faster response time for initial focusing I turn off SDNR as it really slows down the response to adjustments. Glad you like the camera. I think it will be a good one once all the characteristics are mapped out. Look forward to seeing more. If you ever stream on NSN with it let me know I would like to see the results.


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera new [Re: alexaggie]
      #5401036 - 09/03/12 12:50 PM

Quote:

Finallly got mine out last night for the first time. This is my first attempt at using a camera with my scope, but it worked pretty well I think... Got this pic of M42 early this morning...it is processed, but I was amazed at the lack of noise. [image][/image]




Alex,
Glad your first try was a good one! I think you will enjoy this camera. This will open up a whole new realm of possibilities with your telescope. Keep us posted with your results.


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Re: Ntech 300(small version) x1024 ex view camera [Re: John59]
      #5404252 - 09/05/12 01:48 AM

Thanks John! hopefully when the weather gets better I will see you at the dam sometime.

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