Kevin R
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I had made this suggestion in the Feedback forum and it was suggested I make it here to see what response the idea got, so here it is…
When I used to scuba dive it was not uncommon for a person to show up to a dive and have his partner cancel on him or her. This led to the environment where two people who are complete strangers might end up spending the day together. By doing this, many a days diving was saved and many more new friends were made. Today, I am still friends with some of the people I met off the cuff.
So the idea was to set up a forum for ‘Scope Buddies’ or whatever you want to call it. This would allow people to get together without the constraints of a club environment or waiting weeks or months for a star party to roll around. Someone looking to go out (especially us newbies) could find people to view with and become more educated. It also would give an outlet for people who are on vacation or just in town and need to get the skinny on good viewing sites and perhaps just someone to view with.
A forum that is not so visited would not be helpful for this, but this forum is extremely active, so it might be beneficial to the people involved here.
So what do you all think?
Kevin (2)
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saxmaneagle
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....I second the motion
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AstroRealtor
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I'll be in Vero Beach during the full moon starting on the 20th until the 27th. I wonder how far I will be from Lakeland? I am going to bring my 3.5" refractor and a small tripod. I was hoping to at least see the Southern Cross and Omega Centauri.
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rd56
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So what do you all think?
Actually, I think you have a very good idea there  . If I found that someone from my area was looking to get out, I'd certainly be game.
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LLD
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Sounds like a good idea to me! I've met a few local CN'ers Dave ( Bowmoreman) & Dave (Siriusly) and have had contact with a few other local CN'ers who hope to join us someday , We now have a group of 5 that meet at our local dark sky site's! We welcome any CN'ers who would like to get together for a night of observing to join us!
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AstroRealtor
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Hey LLD,
I'm new here. Having some fun! I live in Central Mass. Where in Mass do you guys meet? Jim
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RussL
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I like the idea. I'd love to actually get to meet some CNers. 
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panhard
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Sounds good. Although it would be another forun to monitor.
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I like it, though, I wonder how many people we have around my area. Still, good idea.
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dgs©
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Small world... my wife was born in Lakeland, Florida.
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Johnny D
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So what do you all think?
I like it.
I'm thinking about the possible formats (in increasing order of complexity):
1. A simple forum where people post "Going to location X on date Y." People can post replies or PM the poster.
2. A forum with one thread for each "location" (city, region, etc) and a way to subscribe to a specific thread. A person could post to the "Western Mass" thread. People would see the post or be alerted via a subscription.
3. Ideally, the posts and subscriptions should also be available on a Google Earth map where people can post planned viewing sessions up to about a week in advance, and they are automatically removed after the date. This would allow people to search the map for events in their area.
Anybody got a little extra time on their hands?
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LLD
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Jim Sent ya a PM ! We are in eastern Mass and observe in the Easton, Sharon area. And sometimes At least once a month in the Westford area! I'll bet that as more member's see this thread the more will like the idea!
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saxmaneagle
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For what its worth....I live 45 mins drive north of Minneapolis, MN....and ANY clear night, thurs-saturday I'm game for viewing
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cnstarz
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I like this idea, I have a really inflexible work schedule which has me working on the weekends nearest the new moon, all this year. My club meets once a month, guess when... 
I'd like to get together with people in my area too. 
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jhors
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I think it's a great idea!
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varmint
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"Ditto" comes to mind for me... 
I have tried a few normal posts to see if folks were in the areas I was visiting while on Business or Vacation but unfortunately I didn't quite give enough time.
But I think a dedicated forum would be beneficial, at least to try it out.
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saxmaneagle
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A thought....
Down below, under the heading 'Specialty Forums', there is a topic.... "Astro Outreach, Clubs and Star Parties"
Perhaps an option, is to make a post like "Scope buddy - date - place"....then in the body state where, when u looking for a partner ?
In a way, guess you could say 2 ppl is a Star party ?
.....just a thought.
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Kevin R
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The Outreach forum seemed to me as more of a group thing. What I am suggesting here is a way to make astronomy more accessible by allowing just one or two people to get together on a personal basis. Star parties and clubs are great; don't get me wrong, but they are also few and far between.
To go back to my diving analogy from earlier, diving is has a few cardinal rules. Chief among them (after don't screw up the environment) is that you don't go out alone. The inherent dangers of diving require that someone be there to get your back should an emergency arise. This one precaution has had the benefit of bringing countless friends together because NO ONE wants to spend the time and effort and money (and it can be more expensive than astronomy) then have to cancel because someone didn't show or had a gear failure or some such nonsense. That is how the atmosphere has developed that people can hook up, even though they might be complete strangers. If you go to any of the major diving sites, or read Florida Scuba News (one of the diving periodicals), check the dive shops, or just show up at the boat, you will find people who are wanting to dive, but need a partner and want to find people who are in the same situation. This is not out of desperation, but out of love for the sport. Google the term 'Dive Buddies' and you'll see what I mean.
Here's a great example...
Dive Buddy Listings
I believe that kind of situation is also available here. There is no proscription against going out solo, but it sure is fun to go with another person. People just don't have a place to get the word out...
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Edited by Kevin R (04/15/08 02:14 AM)
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saxmaneagle
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Kevin, I totally understand.
I love your idea and the analogy is perfect.
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MacRoberts
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What a great idea! I'm in if CN wants to give this a try.
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I kinda like the idea. Got to be care full though, that we don't turn it into one of "THOSE" chat rooms. Their are a few vulnerable people on CN. and it's not as if it's a private members club...... SORRY to be playing Devils advocate........  
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chanda7
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I guess I'm just cynical. When I have met people I didn't know from the Internet, it has been in a very public setting during daylight hours. In addition, only those people posting they were coming got the details (location, specific times) sent to them in a private way.
It seems a little dangerous to be meeting people I don't know in the dark, probably in a remote place, with hundreds (if not thousands, for some of you) of dollars of equipment...I think you know where I'm going with this.
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Kevin R
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I don't think I would meet anyone from anywhere for the first time in a dark out of the way place. However, we are moving into 'what if' territory here. The same common sense rules apply here as anywhere else. Things like don't give your address out over the web to anyone.
If you do not trust the format, then you do not have to use it. That's the beauty of the internet. You get to choose how you participate. It's been my experience though that most people are cool and want nothing more than what they say they are, in spite of what the papers and TV would like you to believe. It's all in how you look at it. What's the saying? Trust but verify? 
Kevin (2)
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AstroRealtor
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Quote:
I guess I'm just cynical. When I have met people I didn't know from the Internet, it has been in a very public setting during daylight hours. In addition, only those people posting they were coming got the details (location, specific times) sent to them in a private way.
It seems a little dangerous to be meeting people I don't know in the dark, probably in a remote place, with hundreds (if not thousands, for some of you) of dollars of equipment...I think you know where I'm going with this.
Those are very good points and we all need to use common security tactics.....the logistics can be worked out in such a way so that anyone interested in meeting can feel comfortable about everyone they are meeting. It's a good idea if people even prove their club memberships or some other form of identification to assure another level of adherrance to a sort of code of ethics if you will. I think it is generally a good idea if the details can be worked out.
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Mister T
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I'm game!
I live in the Elmira/Corning NY area.
I am currently trying tohook up with the guy from our local Club but I would LOVE to be able to spend some quality startime with anyone even only slightly more experienced than I!!
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Tony,
I think Arunah Hill is within your range. (google it) It's a Natural Science Center in the foothills of the Berkshires and skies have been so dark at times that the milky way has truly been mistaken for a cloud! This is unheard of in Massachusetts. Even though snow has been gone in these parts for weeks; Arunah still had two feet of snow as of last week so I won't be going there any time real soon. I will be going there over the next couple months though. We had a guy from an Albany Area Astronomy group join us there once so it is doable from where you are. More to follow. Clear skies!
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pops
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Could it be listed as just another topic of this forum? Sounds like a great idea for me because I camp a lot during the summer and am always visiting different areas. Sometimes, campgrounds - due to the nature - don't have great viewing sites. It's disappointing to leave and then see a place you might have used. As on eBay, a ***** idea! 
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Quote:
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I guess I'm just cynical. When I have met people I didn't know from the Internet, it has been in a very public setting during daylight hours. In addition, only those people posting they were coming got the details (location, specific times) sent to them in a private way.
It seems a little dangerous to be meeting people I don't know in the dark, probably in a remote place, with hundreds (if not thousands, for some of you) of dollars of equipment...I think you know where I'm going with this.
Those are very good points and we all need to use common security tactics.....the logistics can be worked out in such a way so that anyone interested in meeting can feel comfortable about everyone they are meeting. It's a good idea if people even prove their club memberships or some other form of identification to assure another level of adherrance to a sort of code of ethics if you will. I think it is generally a good idea if the details can be worked out.
Very good points indeed; remember, you do not have to be a CN member to read the forums; anyone with access to the internet may view these forums.
Carol
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rocco13
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I like the idea presented by the original poster.
My main observing buddy is a single guy who's about 20 years younger than me, so he obviously has better things to do than hang out in the middle of the desert with me! And during the new (or even 3/4) moon weekend, our schedules aren't always in synch. I don't really know any others locally, and would love to know that my 2+ hour drive to the dark sky site would not be in vain. If I could know in advance that several people are going to be at a particular site for some informal observing, that would be great. I definitely would head out with the scope out more often.
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alienux
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I like the original idea, too, but I agree that there should be some form of security involved in anything like this.
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werewolf6977
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Yeah, definitely.
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I just put this out in front of the other mods, and admins. We'll have to wait and see.
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Chris T
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I am interested. I live in Lakeland, Florida.
I feel that these niche forums such as cloudy nights are pretty safe. It is always possible that you could hook up with a wierdo, but unlikely. Our equipment is pretty specialized and tough to sell without calling attention to the seller. Not as big a market for it as jewelry, metals, electronics, etc. Our forums are not as lucrative for sexual predators as other venues.
The media tries tocatch our interest with scary stories to catch viewers and sell advertising. They make things look out of proportion. I have sent rare coins to people I chatted with on the internet for them to review and see if they wanted to purchase and never been ripped off. They were people whose names I was familiar with from participating in the forums over a long period of time, but had never laid eyes on them. You gotta trust that most humans are good. Even in the most dangerous places on the earth, people live their entire lives and get old and die of natural causes. If you feel uncomfortable, don't go. If you are nervous and want to go anyway, take a pepper spray or taser or pistol.
I am a middle aged, overweight and balding male. I am probably not a target for a rapist. If my equipment gets stolen I will live through it. Its not like losing a limb or sight. My chances of being killed and cut up into little pieces are astromomically small. If I don't go and use my equipment, then I have lost the value of it anyway.
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rocco13
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Quote:
I am a middle aged, overweight and balding male. I am probably not a target for a rapist.
That's what Ned Beatty was probably thinking in 'Deliverance'.
Sorry...I couldn't resist. 
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stefanj
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I met my neighbor (Bseward) from this forum- We get together when we can (we only live a couple miles apart) and have great viewing sessions. I've talked to other people in the Western New York area that I've met on the Board- So ya I think it's a good idea
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dgs©
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Very good points indeed; remember, you do not have to be a CN member to read the forums; anyone with access to the internet may view these forums.
Aren't some of them accessible only upon logging in? OTO for one, so I'd assume such a "Seeking Observing Partners" forum could be made "login access only".
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Kevin R
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Quote:
I am interested. I live in Lakeland, Florida.
I feel that these niche forums such as cloudy nights are pretty safe. It is always possible that you could hook up with a wierdo, but unlikely. Our equipment is pretty specialized and tough to sell without calling attention to the seller. Not as big a market for it as jewelry, metals, electronics, etc. Our forums are not as lucrative for sexual predators as other venues.
The media tries tocatch our interest with scary stories to catch viewers and sell advertising. They make things look out of proportion. I have sent rare coins to people I chatted with on the internet for them to review and see if they wanted to purchase and never been ripped off. They were people whose names I was familiar with from participating in the forums over a long period of time, but had never laid eyes on them. You gotta trust that most humans are good. Even in the most dangerous places on the earth, people live their entire lives and get old and die of natural causes. If you feel uncomfortable, don't go. If you are nervous and want to go anyway, take a pepper spray or taser or pistol.
I am a middle aged, overweight and balding male. I am probably not a target for a rapist. If my equipment gets stolen I will live through it. Its not like losing a limb or sight. My chances of being killed and cut up into little pieces are astromomically small. If I don't go and use my equipment, then I have lost the value of it anyway.
There's exactly what I was talking about. Someone from my home town is also a member here...  It's working already!
Chris, would you like to get together some time?
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Mister T
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I have been thinking of going to Mt. Pisgah: http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/MPsghSPPAkey.html?1
or High Knob: http://www.cleardarksky.com/c/WrldEdSpPAkey.html?1
as they are both pretty close.
I was gonna say something about Arunah Hill being an overnighter ...
but then I realized pretty much any good stargazing is an overnighter 
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Tony
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-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Zhumell Classic 10" Dob
Televue 2x Barlow
8mm hyperion and rings (on order)
Oberwerk 11x70 Binoc
old camera tripod
mags and books
Meade 60mm refractor
Elmira-Corning Astronomical Society,
http://www.corning-cc.edu/visitors/observatory
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jhors
Riddle me this
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Posts: 977
Loc: Tempe, AZ
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Very good points indeed; remember, you do not have to be a CN member to read the forums; anyone with access to the internet may view these forums.
Aren't some of them accessible only upon logging in? OTO for one, so I'd assume such a "Seeking Observing Partners" forum could be made "login access only".
Very good idea. My astronomy club uses an unmoderated email forum for people to plan observing sessions. However, you don't have to be a member of the club to join the email group. It has occurred to me in the past that someone with malicious intent could definitely take advantage of someone in the middle of nowhere, at night, with thousands of dollars of equipment. I have had nothing but good experiences with this method, but meeting someone new in a remote place that I have never been before always gives me a little pause (and I know it drives my girlfriend nuts).
Compared to that, I would be far more willing to trust a CN member that had to login and participate in these forums in order to use this feature.
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Aren't some of them accessible only upon logging in? OTO for one, so I'd assume such a "Seeking Observing Partners" forum could be made "login access only".
David; my bad  You are correct.
Carol
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AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35
DreamCatcher Dobservatory, #2
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OK... that's your slip-up for the month. Tighten up out there. 
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8"Ø Newtonian on SVP, Moonlite CR2, Telrad
PST Oberwerk Ultra 15x70 Orion Ultraview 10×50
Hand-me-down Sears Refractor (Discoverer) 60mm×900mm
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And the month's only half over 
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AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35
DreamCatcher Dobservatory, #2
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Mister T
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Posts: 441
Loc: Upstate NY
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Number One, Make it So!
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Tony
"After the Laws of Physics, everything else is opinion"
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Zhumell Classic 10" Dob
Televue 2x Barlow
8mm hyperion and rings (on order)
Oberwerk 11x70 Binoc
old camera tripod
mags and books
Meade 60mm refractor
Elmira-Corning Astronomical Society,
http://www.corning-cc.edu/visitors/observatory
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d1anderson
professor emeritus
Reged: 10/11/07
Posts: 632
Loc: North Central Texas
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I would be interested in doing some observing with someone from my area (Wichita Falls, Texas - Lawton, Oklahoma). Maybe there could be some sort of list of folks interested. There could always be a before hand meeting in a public place to develop a little trust or find any compatability problems.
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MEADE DS2130AT NEWT 494goto
MEADE NG60 REFRACTOR
The more you look the more you'll see!
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wirenut
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I would be interested in this too with someone from my area(somerset county Pa). using before hand meetings would be good idea as well as using Pms for specific info like where our observing sites are & when we'll be there
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8,17 mm hyperions & FT rings
21mm stratus
25,15,9 mm plossls
ultima barlow
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panhard
Mongo
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Posts: 5186
Loc: Markham Ontario Canada
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I tried a posting trying to get others to-gether on this forum. I got no response.
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Kevin R
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Reged: 03/29/08
Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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If marketed, this kind of forum could be a draw to the site, not just an additional forum. People could come from other sites just to sign up and find a buddy.
I disagree with it being restricted to registered users though. Not because it's really a bad idea, but common sense would dictate any exchange of personal info be done in a PM or e-mail, and letting prospective members see that connections are being made can only draw people in.
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Kevin R
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Loc: Fl.
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That's the problem. If it's posted in a regular forum, it gets lost right away because there are other things being posted. In this kind of forum, just put your city in the title and it makes it simple for people to browse. Plus people who go there will inherently be looking for someone instead of info about something else...
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mtn-skies
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Loc: Running Springs, CA
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Good idea. I see there is one person in my area already.
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BigBadBrain
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Reged: 03/05/08
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Loc: Kent, Washington
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I like the idea too. I've already gotten invitations by being a member of CN and you can see by my posts that I'm mostly a reader and not so often a poster (meaning it took very little exposure of my location in the avatar to spawn an invitation).
The other idea is to have coordinated 'rallies' that involve multiple folks that coordinate for a fair weather event (if cloudy the event is canceled). This would be far short of a star party and would be a more informal gathering of a couple of 'buddies'. That would minimize the danger, real or perceived, of meeting strangers from the internet. Still, coordination should be limited to members (which is no guarantee) to help preserve the privacy of the event.
The example divers list is a good idea. I'm sure the divers must have thought of the security issue as well. Let's face it, astronomy isn't the only thing that involves a lot of expensive equipment. I wonder how they handle these issues?
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Orion ST-80 w Orion Starshoot autoguider (in work)
Orion XT-10i Newt ("She turned me into a newt!")
Meade ETX-60 Refractor
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Mister T
sage
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Posts: 441
Loc: Upstate NY
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For what it is worth
I also hang out at the Breaktime forum at FineHomebuilding.com
http://forums.taunton.com/tp-breaktime
every year for ten years now there has been a Fest at one or another members home.
plus many less formal get togethers.
Over a thousand have attended and no axe-murderers yet!
so sign me up!!
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Tony
"After the Laws of Physics, everything else is opinion"
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Zhumell Classic 10" Dob
Televue 2x Barlow
8mm hyperion and rings (on order)
Oberwerk 11x70 Binoc
old camera tripod
mags and books
Meade 60mm refractor
Elmira-Corning Astronomical Society,
http://www.corning-cc.edu/visitors/observatory
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Kevin R
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Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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You know, if this were a forum for something a bit more pedestrian like sports or some activity where we might meet the cast of 'Deliverance' I would be more worried about things like getting mugged or robbed or whatever.
Astronomy (and diving for that matter) tends to attract a more intelligent crowd of people. Most of us here can afford a couple of spare dollars, or else we wouldn't own the equipment we need to feed our addiction. People of intelligence are a lot less likely to commit a crime than people who aren't. As for people who 'prowl the web just LOOKING for someone to rob; well, that's the kind of paranoia our society has overfed us because it just happens to sell tabloids and get good ratings. I choose not to live my life on that level and a bunch of others here obviously feel the same way...
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Mister T
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Posts: 441
Loc: Upstate NY
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EGGZACTLY!!!
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Tony
"After the Laws of Physics, everything else is opinion"
-Neil deGrasse Tyson
Zhumell Classic 10" Dob
Televue 2x Barlow
8mm hyperion and rings (on order)
Oberwerk 11x70 Binoc
old camera tripod
mags and books
Meade 60mm refractor
Elmira-Corning Astronomical Society,
http://www.corning-cc.edu/visitors/observatory
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Dylan Gladstone
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 08/05/07
Posts: 988
Loc: Connecticut, USA
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I'm not too worried about the people that post here. I've found that most niche hobby sites are full of very helpful, honest people.
But this place does have quite a few Lunatics though.
(Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
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Posts: 6218
Loc: Carlisle, Cumbria, ENGLAND
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I'm not too worried about the people that post here. I've found that most niche hobby sites are full of very helpful, honest people.
But this place does have quite a few Lunatics though.
(Sorry, I couldn't resist!)
         
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RussL
Music Maker
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Posts: 1925
Loc: Cayce, SC
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As for people who 'prowl the web just LOOKING for someone to rob; well, that's the kind of paranoia our society has overfed us because it just happens to sell tabloids and get good ratings. I choose not to live my life on that level and a bunch of others here obviously feel the same way...
Right on, Kevin! I agree. I ain't skeered. And they can turn off all the streetlights and let it be dark outside. I,d love it! Take some chances. Like ridin my Harley.
Everyone dies, some never live.   
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"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)
Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Orion 120ST ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces
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wojo
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This is a great idea !! IV'e been into this hobby HARD for thee years ,and I have yet to meet anyone close by to share my enthusiasm with. I casualy ask around but no luck I have seen other addresses on this web site and when contacted , are too far away. I have a nice dark , secluded site with out building ,heat , red lighting ,power posts, etc. I am situated in ALLEGHENY county N.Y. LITTLE GENESSE township
14754 zip , ANYBODY OUT THERE???
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vinnie
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Posts: 1753
Loc: Queensland, Australia
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Hi Kevin R,
Plenty of good points raised, and as Herb (Panhard) has pointed out, a single post in a forum asking for "buddies" would very quickly get lost.
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But this place does have quite a few Lunatics though.
My Psychiatrist has told me that I am cured, but has suggested that I should sell my axe collection.
Vin
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Music Maker
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Posts: 1925
Loc: Cayce, SC
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My Psychiatrist has told me that I am cured
Has he seen you standing on your head in your cricket boots? Hi, Vin.
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"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)
Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Orion 120ST ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces
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Kevin R
sage
Reged: 03/29/08
Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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*bump*
Mods, can I suggest making this a sticky temporarily to see how much more interest it can garner?
Kevin (2)
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d1anderson
professor emeritus
Reged: 10/11/07
Posts: 632
Loc: North Central Texas
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I second that suggestion....
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MEADE DS2130AT NEWT 494goto
MEADE NG60 REFRACTOR
The more you look the more you'll see!
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Zebra24601
Postmaster
Reged: 10/09/05
Posts: 11475
Loc: San Gabriel Valley, CA 91770
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I would suggest changing the title of the Astro Outreach, Star Parties, etc. forum to include this "Scope Buddies" thing. As it is, Outreach gets very little traffic. I think they could handle the extra visitors. And if it gets overwhelmed, the scope buddies thing could then be split off on to its own forum.
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Meade 8" SCT w/UHTC * Celestron 100ED * Celestron C11 * Celestron Firstscope 80EQ
Meade LXD55 mount * Orion Sirius goto mount
Bushnell Voyager 4.5" Compact Reflector * Barska 15x70 binoculars * Galileoscope * Really cheap Tasco spotting scope
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midnite4blues
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Reged: 11/21/05
Posts: 234
Loc: Denville, NJ
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I think this is a great idea. Its kind of funny, I saw this thread, but never opened it before today because I thought it was about a product (maybe I thought it was Scope Buggies) that didn't sound interesting to me...
Anyway, the first thing I thought about was how much this sounded like musician boards. Like the diving analogy, playing music is another hobby that revolves around people getting together to enjoy a common interest. I have met, both on-line and in-person, some great people to jam with in my area that I never would have met if it hadn't been for various musician-finder sites. My wife thinks I'm crazy that I would meet with complete strangers in some pretty unsavory places (rehearsal studios in otherwise empty industrial parks, you know, the kind of places you see in mob movies where they...settle their differences) but I have never had a problem with it. I've had people that want to meet up at a bar ahead of time and thats cool too.
One option that works well for musicians, is a board where you list some info about yourself as kind of an open invitation for people to contact you. Since its completely optional, you only post what you want people to know about you/your equipment. Maybe its a matter of you having a scope that someone else is interested in checking out before buying or someone needs help with collimation. Its simply a way to say that you are open to being contacted and possibly meet in person.
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Ted
Orion 180mm Mak-Cass
Orion SpaceProbe 130ST
Celestron Onyx 80 EDF
Antares EQ-5 mount
Desert Sky DSV-1 mount
Stellarvue BV3 binoviewer
Eyepiece pairs: 25mm TV Plossl, 23mm SV FMC, 16mm Meade S5k SWA
Single eyepieces: 32mm & 7.5mm Orion HL Plossl, 26mm Meade S5k Plossl, 6mm & 4mm B/TMB Planetary
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RussL
Music Maker
Reged: 03/18/08
Posts: 1925
Loc: Cayce, SC
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Still ain't skeered!
I hear ya midnight4blues. I'm a working musician myself. I've played in symphonies in the safe crowd and I've played in dives with the scary crowd. Seen a few fights and stopped a few, too. I've also ridden a motorcycle around some crowds whose names I won't repeat here (don't ask). Sure there's some risk, but I don't base my endeavors on worrying too much (well, but then you don't have to be STUPID either--like wearing the wrong patch in the wrong territory or playing a tune that you know will cause trouble).
Everyone: I know security's a concern. I'm not against it. Everybody's different in how they feel about it. If we implement some reasonable security measures, then everyone will be happy, including the ones who don't worry about it. (Just carry a .45 and a Crocodile Dundee bowie and all will be merry.  --just kidding). But really, if we do this thing, we should consider each other's needs, and some may truly need more than others whether for health reasons or whatever. Me.....
I ain't skeered of nobody.......'cept the DENTIST! 
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"Akita mani yo." Observe everything as you walk. (--Lakota)
Celestron Celestar 8 Standard SCT, f10
Celestron 80mm Wide View ref., f5
Orion 120ST ref., f5
Criterion RV-6 Dynascope, Newt., f8, (c. 1962)
Sears Discoverer 60mm ref., f7, (c. 1973)
Celestron Ultima DX 10x50, 6.5 TFOV
Tasco 7x35 wide
Several mediocre eyepieces
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Hambone
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Reged: 10/10/05
Posts: 451
Loc: Martin, TN
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I have owned a scope now for tree years and have just found someone to view with on non meeting nights at the club. Some of my frinds are intrested in my scope but when invited they say yea I will come and never show. I like to view with someone else, especially someone with a bigger scope than I have!  I think this is a great idea. Although Im not greatly concerned about security my self I can see why some would be. As said by some before me if some common sense is used along with a little security for the ones who need it to feel safe I think this idea would be a great asset to Cloudy Nights!
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60MM Meade (used very little now)
Golden Pond Kentucky
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Dain
Carpal Tunnel
Reged: 03/24/05
Posts: 1596
Loc: N.Y. Adirondack Mnts. NGC 4565...
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UPSTATE NEW YORK, WHERE ARE YOU!?!?!
I think this is a great idea actually. I've been looking for some 'scope partners for a few years on here now and have pretty much only found one person so far within an hour and a half of me. We have an astronomy club in the area that doesn't seem to be as active as it use to be. I actually sort of felt like an outcast anyways being the younger fella ( and a newbie at the time ) around folks much older and experienced then I. Also, sometimes I guess I didn't feel the warm welcome.
So, if there are any fellow members in the upstate NY area, get in touch! Thanks much.
Regards,
A CN friend,
Dain
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Dain
Adirondack Mountains (my true dark sky site)
@ Cedar River Flow
Local Site
Clear Skies?
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cnstarz
professor emeritus
Reged: 12/22/07
Posts: 549
Loc: Kentucky, USA
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Something else that might work: enlist the help of regional and local clubs and have them host a CN meet and greet night.
These meets could be scheduled on evenings that don't conflict with normal club events. Since many CN members are also Club members this type of cooperation could boost membership all the way around. Meet & Greet nights would differentiate themselves from normal outreach by attracting serious observers while also offer a level of security that most would feel comfortable with. Eventually folks might make arrangements on their own, but the M&G nights could continue to draw beginners and old salts alike.
This could be a regular feature in the beginners or some other thread where meet and greets that have been planned could be announced on a monthly sticky. The host organization could submit an announcement to the moderators who would then place that in a read only sticky. There might be more ideas along this line especially in areas where a club doesn't exist, might even be a way to get one started.
Anyone else have some ideas please share them.
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Apogee 50mm BB scope
ETX-60 BB
Meade 70-az
5" DIY Newt (wip)
C6-N on CG-4 GEM
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droid
rocketman
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Loc: ohio
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Most of us here can afford a couple of spare dollars, or else we wouldn't own the equipment we need to feed our addiction.
I for one couldnt afford to replace my equipment if it was stolen...............that said .......Id love ot meet others in my area who are into astronomy.And think this a great idea.
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102mm Celestron C102HD
Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?
60mm Telescope Club
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katodog
Supreme Grandmaster
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Posts: 2514
Loc: Carol Stream, Illinois
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I like it, though, I wonder how many people we have around my area. Still, good idea.
Chris
I'd tend to agree with this. I think there's about 6 people in Illinois, and we all live about 5 billion miles away from each other. At the least, I can recommend cruising the Chicago Astronomer website for people around here...
Chicago Astronomer
The guy who runs the site is a telescope operator at the Adler, and is a pretty cool guy. The site isn't anywhere near this one as far as members, but it's a nice little place to hang out and chat.
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Protheus
Vaguely offended
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Posts: 5065
Loc: Illinois, US
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I'd tend to agree with this. I think there's about 6 people in Illinois, and we all live about 5 billion miles away from each other. At the least, I can recommend cruising the Chicago Astronomer website for people around here...
Hey, I'm close enough to Indiana that some of those would count, too.
Chris
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"To tread the sharp edge of a sword;
to run on smooth-frozen ice,
one needs no footsteps to follow..."
"Well, people sometimes ask me 'how did you get involved in astronomy?' I said 'I got born, what's your problem?'" -- John Dobson
"In discussing the large-scale structure of the cosmos, astronomers sometimes say that space is curved, or that the universe is finite but unbounded. Whatever are they talking about?" -- Carl Sagan
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Lucky13
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Posts: 292
Loc: Ashtabula, Ohio
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I like this idea. The other forums I'm on (car clubs) have regular weekend-ish meetings where we'll work on each other's cars, hang out, play pool or poker, etc. etc.. I like that since it makes it less like a chat room and more like a local club.
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Out of Focus
sage
Reged: 09/23/07
Posts: 232
Loc: Roseville (Sac) CA
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Anyone in my area with a new Obsession 18" UC who would like to meet this weekend for a wonderful night of stargazing, just shoot me a PM.
PS. If you have an Ethos bring that too. ;-)
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Orion XT10i w/FT
Orion XT6
Orion Mini Giant 15X63
Orion ST80-A
24mmHyperion,13mmEthos,
9mmNagler
AO series 160 &
L10 Microscopes
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Out of Focus
sage
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Posts: 232
Loc: Roseville (Sac) CA
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Post deleted. TOS violation.
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Orion XT10i w/FT
Orion XT6
Orion Mini Giant 15X63
Orion ST80-A
24mmHyperion,13mmEthos,
9mmNagler
AO series 160 &
L10 Microscopes
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Edited by Snaproll (05/24/08 10:14 AM)
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Kevin R
sage
Reged: 03/29/08
Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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I would say there's enough interest here to seriously consider giving it a go... Mods?
Kevin
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If you want to see the most beautiful girl in the world, click here!
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sully14
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Posts: 29
Loc: Dayton, Ohio
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I'm in.
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The first principle is that you must not fool yourself, and you are the easiest person to fool.
-Richard Phillips Feynman
8" Lightbridge Deluxe
Celestron Skymaster 15 X 70
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Protheus
Vaguely offended
Reged: 09/01/07
Posts: 5065
Loc: Illinois, US
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That's a lot of friendly astronomers...
Chris
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"To tread the sharp edge of a sword;
to run on smooth-frozen ice,
one needs no footsteps to follow..."
"Well, people sometimes ask me 'how did you get involved in astronomy?' I said 'I got born, what's your problem?'" -- John Dobson
"In discussing the large-scale structure of the cosmos, astronomers sometimes say that space is curved, or that the universe is finite but unbounded. Whatever are they talking about?" -- Carl Sagan
Edited by Snaproll (05/24/08 10:15 AM)
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Out of Focus
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Deleted. TOS violation.
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Orion XT10i w/FT
Orion XT6
Orion Mini Giant 15X63
Orion ST80-A
24mmHyperion,13mmEthos,
9mmNagler
AO series 160 &
L10 Microscopes
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Blue Canyon, Placer Co. CA
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Loc: Roseville (Sac) CA
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Deleted.
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Orion XT10i w/FT
Orion XT6
Orion Mini Giant 15X63
Orion ST80-A
24mmHyperion,13mmEthos,
9mmNagler
AO series 160 &
L10 Microscopes
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Blue Canyon, Placer Co. CA
Edited by Snaproll (05/24/08 10:18 AM)
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typhus
professor emeritus
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Loc: Tucson, AZ
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I think this is a great idea also. You have my vote, if it counts.
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Shane
Orion XT10i
10x50 Binoculars
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Hambone
sage
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Posts: 451
Loc: Martin, TN
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Quote:
Anyone in my area with a new Obsession 18" UC who would like to meet this weekend for a wonderful night of stargazing, just shoot me a PM.
PS. If you have an Ethos bring that too. ;-)
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60MM Meade (used very little now)
Golden Pond Kentucky
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theoracle74
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Posts: 38
Loc: Stoneham, MA
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Jim and LLD,
I live in Eastern Mass and would be interested in getting out as well. Will most likely be purchasing a used 10" meade LX200GPS in the very near future. Would love to get out to a dark sky location and do some observing!
Jon
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“Imagination is more important than knowledge. For knowledge is limited to all we now know and understand, while imagination embraces the entire world, and all there ever will be to know and understand.”
-Albert Einstein
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LLD
Lucky so far
Reged: 11/14/05
Posts: 2076
Loc: MASS.
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Jon : We have a public astronomy night at The MooseHill Wildlife Sanctuary in Sharon This Saturday May 10th if your interested, We regularly have a good crowd of 20 to 40 people show up! Your welcome to come down and meet everyone! You can vist the Mass Audubon society web site web page The program is not listed on the web site but you can call them at 781-784-5691 for info about the May 10Th star party, But you can use the web site for directions! PM me for more info And for other observing opportunities !
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LLD. Meade 16 inch dob. Meade 60mm Polaris refractor 76mm Bushnell reflector
Meade ETX60-BB,Meade 70MM / USB color camera
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Patty102
journeyman
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Posts: 6
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HiEveryone, I am new here and new to astronomy and star gazing, I recently bought my first telescope and have been trying to find some star party's to attend in my area, and I found this "scope Buddies" which I think is great, I realized that LLD is only 20 minutes from me in Mass. So hopefully I can get to one soon to observe and talk with other's and learn a few things.
I'm sure I will have plenty of questions and I learn a great deal from your posts.
Thank you.
Patty102
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LLD
Lucky so far
Reged: 11/14/05
Posts: 2076
Loc: MASS.
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Hello Patty102 Welcome to Cloudy Nights! Congrats on your first telescope! I also think the scope buddies forum is a great idea, There are a few of us CN members already meeting for observing sessions, With more hoping to meet up soon! I sent ya a reply to your PM! Hope to hear back from you soon!
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LLD. Meade 16 inch dob. Meade 60mm Polaris refractor 76mm Bushnell reflector
Meade ETX60-BB,Meade 70MM / USB color camera
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Protheus
Vaguely offended
Reged: 09/01/07
Posts: 5065
Loc: Illinois, US
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I'm rather far away, myself, but welcome Patty.
Chris
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"To tread the sharp edge of a sword;
to run on smooth-frozen ice,
one needs no footsteps to follow..."
"Well, people sometimes ask me 'how did you get involved in astronomy?' I said 'I got born, what's your problem?'" -- John Dobson
"In discussing the large-scale structure of the cosmos, astronomers sometimes say that space is curved, or that the universe is finite but unbounded. Whatever are they talking about?" -- Carl Sagan
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Patty102
journeyman
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Posts: 6
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LLD
Thanks for the info, regrading observing, what a small world, people right in my own town, that's the beauty of these forums, I am definately interested in meeting you all, just PM me when you are all going to meet the next time and anything else you think I should know, I have never been observing with a group.
Patty102
Hi Chris, thanks for the welcome.
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Jerry V
journeyman
Reged: 04/23/08
Posts: 9
Loc: Bloomington, IN
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I think this idea is great. It can be hard to admit to veteran astronomers that you are not as well versed as they are. I don't see many from Indiana here though.
Jerry
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lucky newbie
TMB 152
Orion 80mm
CPC 11
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chexmix
sage
Reged: 12/01/04
Posts: 348
Loc: Arlington, MA, USA
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I have what I guess may be a peculiar take on this, so ... here goes.
I love the "scope buddies" idea and would like to see it formalized somehow. I have a number of reasons for this, some I suppose more selfish than others. :^|
First and foremost: I don't really or can't enjoy big star parties (heck, parties period), since I suffer from something akin to "social anxiety disorder" that makes being in or around even medium-sized groups of people very problematic. And forget crowds!
Please understand, I am making NO judgments of the many people who DO enjoy these events! I'm just talking about my own peculiar makeup which, to perhaps stray towards TMI territory, _has_ occasionally been very depressing/disabling. But I have to recognize and/or admit it.
I find I have a much better time observing with 1-3 friends.
Furthermore, I haven't had a car in over two years now (this is the selfish part) and so if I could find a "scope buddy" in my area who had a good-sized vehicle, it would be really swell. I would be happy to contribute to the gas kitty, of course, and since I can get a Zipcar if I want I could conceivably reciprocate with transportation from time to time.
Bottom line I suppose is that doing stuff alone all the time gets to be a drag, but I'm just not a crowds person. At all.
The edgy aspects of trying to implement this (mentioned several times in the thread above) are very real, too, and are worth thinking about. Some years ago I decided I was tired of playing improv guitar all by myself and that it would be really fun to find someone to improvise _with_ ... and to that end I put an ad up on Craigslist. It wasn't long before I got a response from someone who ... seemed interested, but then he started asking me whether I wanted him to send a picture of himself. I repeatedly told him I didn't care what he looked like ... then decided HE thought I was looking for something other than a guitar playing partner, and gave up.
It's an odd world, and sometimes you don't know whether you're being explicit enough about what the lines are, and what you want, and what is NOT a euphemism for something else!
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8" Discovery DHQ
Celestron C102-HD
9x63 Orion mini-giants
(2) Frontally-placed visual organs, incl. lens, vitreous/aqueous humors, assorted rods, cones.
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jstephany
super member
Reged: 12/17/07
Posts: 103
Loc: Madison WI
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Excellent Idea! Anyone from South Central Wis.?
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John
10" Orion xt classic dob
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DCM
member
Reged: 11/13/07
Posts: 11
Loc: Texas
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Deleted TOS violation.
Edited by Snaproll (05/24/08 10:16 AM)
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chexmix
sage
Reged: 12/01/04
Posts: 348
Loc: Arlington, MA, USA
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Since I understand whole new fora don't approved often, I'll leap in too: if there is anyone in the Metro Boston area who would be interested in linking resources (as previously stated I have scopes but no car), please PM me! I would love to hear from you! My scopes are gathering dust and I HATE THAT!!
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8" Discovery DHQ
Celestron C102-HD
9x63 Orion mini-giants
(2) Frontally-placed visual organs, incl. lens, vitreous/aqueous humors, assorted rods, cones.
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Out of Focus
sage
Reged: 09/23/07
Posts: 232
Loc: Roseville (Sac) CA
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Orion XT6
Orion Mini Giant 15X63
Orion ST80-A
24mmHyperion,13mmEthos,
9mmNagler
AO series 160 &
L10 Microscopes
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Blue Canyon, Placer Co. CA
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Nick Lloyd
He asked for it
Reged: 10/24/06
Posts: 2156
Loc: cincinnati
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As far as organizing a Scope Buddies forum, would it make sense to have dedicated threads for each State?
How about a "Scope Buddies" sticky on the "Astro Outreach, Clubs and Star Parties" page? Much like the 2008 Star Parties and Events sticky... except the Months listed would be States listed. CN users that want to observe together could simply list their name and their general geographic location. CN users that want to contact them would have the option of simply sending a PM.
Keeping it as a reference and not an ongoing-let's-talk-about-Bob-and-that-funny-thing-he-did-at-CSSP
would make it easier to navigate.
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"The best scope is the one you use." -rcg
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Snaproll
Post Laureate
Reged: 02/20/04
Posts: 3824
Loc: Wisconsin
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Nice thought Nick, perhaps put it in feedback. I'll bring it up when I get a chance to.
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-Jim-
Happiness is a clear sky and a Denk II
old AP images and some new C14 Hyperstar images
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JamesE
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 10/22/07
Posts: 1098
Loc: Westbank, BC, Canada
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Post deleted by JamesE
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James
(Thanks to Attilla for the Clear Sky charts)
Current Projects : Tasco 15TEA - 3 inch pier mounted planetary scope
Priorities : Wife, Kids
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csa/montana
Wild Spirit
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Posts: 40138
Loc: montana
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Quote:
I think the discussion should revolve more around CN's part in ensuring some security measures for protection. I think it is obvious that CN can not be accountable for the actions of individuals. CN can be accountable to how info is presented ie, member information, TOS rules, etc.
Since CN already monitors how info is presented, member info, TOS rules, & enforces the TOS; what security measures for protection do you propose for CN to adopt?
Also, I don't believe it's a good idea that a new member is prevented from PMing other members in this particular group, and doubt if it would be possible anyway.
If your suggestions are welcomed by the readers of this thread, you might consider opening your own website for this group, & that way you could enact all the measures you suggested.
CN is for all members, and our TOS, etc. extends to all equally, without creating a special TOS for a specific group.
This thread has merit, but the old saying comes to mind; "buyer beware", in this case, "member beware" when exchanging personal information & meeting publicly.
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Carol
AstroTech 16" Dob (Thanks ASTRONOMICS!)
Vixen 80MF/AstroTech Voyager
Masuyama's 7.5, 15, 25W, 35mm,
Pentaxes; 5XW, 7XL, 10XW.
14mm Meade 4000 UWA
TV Panoptics; 22, 35
DreamCatcher Dobservatory, #2
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Protheus
Vaguely offended
Reged: 09/01/07
Posts: 5065
Loc: Illinois, US
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Quote:
Also, I don't believe it's a good idea that a new member is prevented from PMing other members in this particular group, and doubt if it would be possible anyway.
Possible? Yeah, we could completely scrap and re-write UBB. It would be great.
Probably not a good idea, though.
Chris
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"To tread the sharp edge of a sword;
to run on smooth-frozen ice,
one needs no footsteps to follow..."
"Well, people sometimes ask me 'how did you get involved in astronomy?' I said 'I got born, what's your problem?'" -- John Dobson
"In discussing the large-scale structure of the cosmos, astronomers sometimes say that space is curved, or that the universe is finite but unbounded. Whatever are they talking about?" -- Carl Sagan
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THEPLOUGH
Sir Ducksalot
Reged: 01/11/08
Posts: 6218
Loc: Carlisle, Cumbria, ENGLAND
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Quote:
Quote:
I think the discussion should revolve more around CN's part in ensuring some security measures for protection. I think it is obvious that CN can not be accountable for the actions of individuals. CN can be accountable to how info is presented ie, member information, TOS rules, etc.
Since CN already monitors how info is presented, member info, TOS rules, & enforces the TOS; what security measures for protection do you propose for CN to adopt?
Also, I don't believe it's a good idea that a new member is prevented from PMing other members in this particular group, and doubt if it would be possible anyway.
If your suggestions are welcomed by the readers of this thread, you might consider opening your own website for this group, & that way you could enact all the measures you suggested.
CN is for all members, and our TOS, etc. extends to all equally, without creating a special TOS for a specific group.
This thread has merit, but the old saying comes to mind; "buyer beware", in this case, "member beware" when exchanging personal information & meeting publicly.
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Geoff...
Nexstar 8SE ...Plus bits & pieces
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chexmix
sage
Reged: 12/01/04
Posts: 348
Loc: Arlington, MA, USA
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I'm trying another craigslist post since all seems silent here. Kind of depressing -- but maybe I'm just inadequately patient.
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8" Discovery DHQ
Celestron C102-HD
9x63 Orion mini-giants
(2) Frontally-placed visual organs, incl. lens, vitreous/aqueous humors, assorted rods, cones.
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LLD
Lucky so far
Reged: 11/14/05
Posts: 2076
Loc: MASS.
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Chexmix. Hi few of Cloudy Nighters and a few of my friends in the Sharon area try to meet 2 or 3 times a month to observe at one of our local parks in Sharon And Easton, If you have access to a zip car and would like to join up with us your more than welcome too! We are meeting at Borderland state park in Easton tonight for a night of stargazing and we also will be hosting a public astronomy night at the Moose Hill Wildlife sanctuary in Sharon on June 14th! We also observe once a month at the Amateur Telescope Makers Of Boston at their club house In westford ! Give me a pm or a post here and let me know if you can make it to any of these or maybe one of our other observing nights! Same goes for any other local CN'er That would like to join up with a bunch of local stargazer's ! Web site for Borderland State Park web page
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LLD. Meade 16 inch dob. Meade 60mm Polaris refractor 76mm Bushnell reflector
Meade ETX60-BB,Meade 70MM / USB color camera
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spoolboyy
super member
Reged: 08/01/05
Posts: 184
Loc: Lewiston, Idaho
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does CN have one of those maps where its members can put a little digital "push pin" in where they live? that would be really cool for this thread.
-adam
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//ADAM
Celestron 'Hopper 6"
Galileo 120mm Reflector
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Nick Lloyd
He asked for it
Reged: 10/24/06
Posts: 2156
Loc: cincinnati
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Mods- any news?
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"The best scope is the one you use." -rcg
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Randy Spiker
Radioactive Stormchaser
Reged: 01/28/07
Posts: 1819
Loc: Carson City Nv. Elev 4680 feet
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I've been hoping to find other scope enthusiasts. Anyone in the Reno/Carson City area?
P.M. me if you wanna get together.
To the mods., is this appropriate?
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Vixen ED80sf on a Vixen Portamount
Zhumell 12" The "Beast"
Some premium EPs
A wonderful, understanding Wife, 2 Dogs, lots of backyard Birdies, mag. 6+ skies to the S.E. on a good night.
Strange Universe, may I kiss your breeze,
Your beautiful statement - reaches,
as my wallet empties.
Carson City, Nv.
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wbrogdo1
super member
Reged: 05/21/08
Posts: 121
Loc: Lakeland, FL
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I am also in Lakeland and would be interested.
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http://www.brogdon.ws/astronomy
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Kevin R
sage
Reged: 03/29/08
Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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Cool! Let's get together..
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If you want to see the most beautiful girl in the world, click here!
Lakeland, Fl
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wbrogdo1
super member
Reged: 05/21/08
Posts: 121
Loc: Lakeland, FL
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Hey Kevin,
I tried pm'ing you but apparently it isn't working.
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http://www.brogdon.ws/astronomy
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alanon
Nobody tells me anything
Reged: 06/29/07
Posts: 2557
Loc: Las Vegas
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I am getting ready to move to lost wages (Las Vegas). Is there any CNers out that way? I'm looking to hook up with a club out there as well. I will be moving there in early August.
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Alanon the Wizard (a literary character, not the organization)
Dan
12.5" Obsession #1531
WO 98mm FLT (aluminum tube)
WO ZenithStarII 80mm ED
Coronado PST Ha
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lifesvr525
member
Reged: 08/19/07
Posts: 10
Loc: Central, Illinois
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What a great idea. I currently live in Central Illinois and have become self taught over the last year. I find large crowds sometimes intimidating, along with the issue of not knowing anyone when you show up. Well being planted smack dab in the middle of nowhere doesn't help any either.
A map with pushpins is a good idea along with some means of breaking it all down and making contact with each other.
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lifesvr525
member
Reged: 08/19/07
Posts: 10
Loc: Central, Illinois
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Another idea would be to change the search engine allowing folks to search the area they are in and see what users are registered in that area. I am not sure if the search will allow you to do that except it will allow you to search on user name though.
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sharkzf6
member
Reged: 06/15/07
Posts: 80
Loc: 36.2644, -115.6532
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Quote:
I am getting ready to move to lost wages (Las Vegas). Is there any CNers out that way? I'm looking to hook up with a club out there as well. I will be moving there in early August.
I am out here. You will love the skies out here. Less than hour from Las Vegas to extremely dark, clear skies. The next couple of days here will be the first time we have had clouds for weeks. Detailed Milky Way common once you get away from the city skyglow. Keep me posted. Be glad to help when you get here.
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12-inch Meade LightBridge - "Hoss"
5-inch NexStar SE - "Little Joe"
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alanon
Nobody tells me anything
Reged: 06/29/07
Posts: 2557
Loc: Las Vegas
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That sounds like a plan to me! 
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Alanon the Wizard (a literary character, not the organization)
Dan
12.5" Obsession #1531
WO 98mm FLT (aluminum tube)
WO ZenithStarII 80mm ED
Coronado PST Ha
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kaaikop
scholastic sledgehammer
Reged: 07/13/08
Posts: 765
Loc: North of the Montreal nebula
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This is my first post here... Hello to all!!!
Any CN'er in the Montreal area?
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Benoit, RASC Montreal
-C9.25 on EQ6 Pro - C6/ED80 on Portamount
-TV Plossls, Radians, Nags, Pans, UO Orthos.
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d1anderson
professor emeritus
Reged: 10/11/07
Posts: 632
Loc: North Central Texas
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Hi kaaikop,
Welcome to Cloudy Nights... I'm a pretty good ways from Montreal but there are several Canadians on several of the forums here that might be close to you.
Clear Dark skies to you.
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Clear Skies
Dewayne
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Z12 dob
MEADE DS2130AT NEWT 494goto
MEADE NG60 REFRACTOR
The more you look the more you'll see!
Don't forget to register at www.scopebuddies.com
Check out my blog What I Think About Things
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LLD
Lucky so far
Reged: 11/14/05
Posts: 2076
Loc: MASS.
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Welcome to Cloudy Nights! Check out the other forums lots of great info and folks to chat with!
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LLD. Meade 16 inch dob. Meade 60mm Polaris refractor 76mm Bushnell reflector
Meade ETX60-BB,Meade 70MM / USB color camera
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skybsd
professor emeritus
Reged: 02/01/08
Posts: 586
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Hi,
Anyone from Surrey, England around?
I only started in December, and it'd be really nice to know that there are others nearby!
PM me if you are
Thanks!
Regards,
skybsd
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leggament
newbie
Reged: 07/18/08
Posts: 1
Loc: Vancouver, Washington
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Kevin, This sounds like a great Idea. I meet with a friend locally in Vancouver, WA quite often, but usually my days off do not coincide with his. In fact I have to work when the largest star party meeting is happening in Oregon. I will be focusing more camping trips to view dark skies soon. To find others who could do the same would be great. My wife makes it to about 2:00 AM with me but then she folds. I like the diver’s list example. Maybe narrow it down to zones NW, SW, NE, SE or something like that. This is my first post, I joined to find out more info in general i.e. lenses, scopes, F-values and any other thing that might help, but the observing that do with another enthusiast is the best, so that is why I responded to this post.
Lakeland, I was there a month ago it was great.
Scott
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When I consider...
Celestron Neststar 8SE
Generic 2" diagonal
Pentax XV 28mm
Pentax XW 20mm
Orion 8mm Stratus
A Celestron eyepiece set (not used much)
On the wish list:
Pentax XW 40mm
Quality 2" barlow
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bsim
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/04/08
Posts: 1047
Loc: New York City
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Anybody going to Clarence Fahnestock Park tomorrow night (Friday, 25 July)? CSC looks good. Moonrise around Midnight. You don't even have to bring a scope. I'm bringing my Teeter's 10" and Orion XT8i for some two-fisted fun!  
Edited by bsim (07/24/08 03:45 PM)
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Kevin R
sage
Reged: 03/29/08
Posts: 306
Loc: Fl.
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Ok guys, are we ever going to do anything with this? I think there's been shown enough support that somethings merited. I like the idea of changing the search engine so that you can search for local members. I never thought of that...
Let's putt or get off the green, shall we?
Kevin
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If you want to see the most beautiful girl in the world, click here!
Lakeland, Fl
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lifesvr525
member
Reged: 08/19/07
Posts: 10
Loc: Central, Illinois
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Thanks Kevin for supporting the idea I had put in here. If they can change the searche engine you can search by state and or city local. What I thought was great about that is the users who wouldn't feel comfortable with sharing info publicly could always change their location.
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Glassthrower
Vendor - Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Reged: 04/07/05
Posts: 16347
Loc: Kuiper Belt
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I'm in south Louisiana and we have a good local group of stargazers who meet occasionally at a NELM 6.0 site.
Anyone who is in the Terrebonne Parish area of Louisiana who is interested, feel free to contact me via PM here or email me at mike@galactic-stone.com
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Michael Gilmer - Member of the Meteoritical Society & Collector of Falling Stars.
Meteorites, Moon Rocks, Mars Rocks, Tektites, Fossils, Minerals, Crystals, & Trinitite.
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katodog
Supreme Grandmaster
Reged: 03/31/06
Posts: 2514
Loc: Carol Stream, Illinois
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Let's putt or get off the green, shall we?
My mom used to put it another way.
Quite frankly, anybody is welcome to come to my house when the weather is clear. I'd love to have someone to observe with. Anyone who wants to PM me who's near Glendale Heights is more than welcome to, and we can hammer out some details.
I don't know if you've noticed, but I have some nice equipment that you can use, and I might even provide the beer and bad humor.
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The only stupid question is the one that goes unasked
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WildBill
sage
Reged: 07/07/08
Posts: 273
Loc: Batesville Ar USA
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Anyone in the North Central/North Eastern Arkansas Area? PM me and we will go from there.
Clear Skies
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Edge Of The Ozarks Arkansas
Meade 70AZ-A 70mm
Celestron NexStar 114SLT
Kodak Z710 Digital
Canon T50 35mm
+35.82/-091.57
WildBill
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Protheus
Vaguely offended
Reged: 09/01/07
Posts: 5065
Loc: Illinois, US
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Quite frankly, anybody is welcome to come to my house when the weather is clear. I'd love to have someone to observe with. Anyone who wants to PM me who's near Glendale Heights is more than welcome to, and we can hammer out some details.
I'm not really in the neighborhood, but if I end up out that way, I'll let you know.
Chris
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"To tread the sharp edge of a sword;
to run on smooth-frozen ice,
one needs no footsteps to follow..."
"Well, people sometimes ask me 'how did you get involved in astronomy?' I said 'I got born, what's your problem?'" -- John Dobson
"In discussing the large-scale structure of the cosmos, astronomers sometimes say that space is curved, or that the universe is finite but unbounded. Whatever are they talking about?" -- Carl Sagan
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WildBill
sage
Reged: 07/07/08
Posts: 273
Loc: Batesville Ar USA
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That Will work as a matter of fact anyone who gets out this way can let me know your in the area or even just passing thru.I may be in the orange but blue is just a few min away.
You cant really tell it unless you look south towards town or go a little farther away.
Clear Skies
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Edge Of The Ozarks Arkansas
Meade 70AZ-A 70mm
Celestron NexStar 114SLT
Kodak Z710 Digital
Canon T50 35mm
+35.82/-091.57
WildBill
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insinu8
sage
Reged: 01/22/08
Posts: 408
Loc: Sunnyvale, CA
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This'd be a nice forum to have...
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Christopher
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AT66ED
ED80
120ST (Moonlit)
NP127is
TMB 130SS
MN55 (Moonlit)
150MCT
TEC160ED (DOB: 11.06.08)
SN8
MN86
C9.25 (Moonlit)
XT10 Dob
Obsession 18"UC
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katodog
Supreme Grandmaster
Reged: 03/31/06
Posts: 2514
Loc: Carol Stream, Illinois
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Chris you have a standing invite whenever you feel like showing up.
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The only stupid question is the one that goes unasked
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Spoonsize
Vendor/Clothing
Reged: 08/27/04
Posts: 3279
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Quote:
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Quite frankly, anybody is welcome to come to my house when the weather is clear. I'd love to have someone to observe with. Anyone who wants to PM me who's near Glendale Heights is more than welcome to, and we can hammer out some details.
I'm not really in the neighborhood, but if I end up out that way, I'll let you know.
Chris
I'm with Chris on this one....I LOVE bad humor and have been known to dish it out as well.
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Steve Durham
www.margesmonograms.com
(Marge made me do it)
"Nobody get's in to see the WIZARD, Not Nobody, Not Nohow"
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