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What Scope(s) Do You Have??
      #351096 - 02/21/05 01:48 AM

What Scope(s) do you have? What do you like about it/them? What do you dislike? I'll get this ball rolling... BTW, this is Echo's idea, folks.

I have in order,

1/ An Orion Spaceprobe 130EQ LT. Likes: portable, good fov, decent on the planets. Dislikes: Spherical primary, thick spider, and lastly the venerable eq-2 mount. Could use an eq-3.

2/ 6" Starhopper Dob. Likes: PLanet Killer, can go fairly deep on dso's, portable, very easy to use. Dislikes: 6" alt bearing handles, gotta find my hack-saw...

3/ 6" Apogee/LXD55. LIkes: Very serious cool factor, haven't had first light yet, so can't comment further. Dislikes: This thing weighs a ton!

Come on, folks, toss your hat in the ring! Let's let it all hang out!

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Pete
6" Apogee/LXD55 - "The Beast"
Starhopper 6" Dob - "Shiva"
Spaceprobe 130 EQ - "Spacey"
Bushnell Fatboy
The Abomination
Sun Pak Pro 7500 Platinum Edition
10X25 Bushnell Camo Roofies
7X35 Tasco Classic Plastic (good views though)
7X42 Tasco Rare Bird
10X50 Nikon Actions (Type 7)
15X70 Skymasters - "DroolMeisters"
One ratty old IBM 600E LapTop


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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351145 - 02/21/05 03:28 AM

I own a Vixen SP-FL 102S. This is a 4" f/8.8 two element fluorite APO. This one is my main instrument I use it for double stars and solar observing. As a mount I use a GP-DX for a portable setup and a G11 mount at home. I'll never part with this setup i guess..

My second scope is a 8" f/7 Newtonian. It's huge and it is pushing limits on the G11. It is mainly used for deep sky observing. I don't often use it at home.

Best regards,

Wouter.

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4" f/8.8 Vixen Fluorite on GP-DX
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Wouter D'hoye]
      #351231 - 02/21/05 07:01 AM

I have a C4-R -a 4" f/10 refractor.
I like the views. On planets it is SO sharp.
And with my 30mm Ultima eyepiece I just love to
cruse the skys. It's just portable enough to take
out the door and down the stairs in 1 piece.

Now that I'm doing a lot of reading on how the
universe was formed I want to go deeper (DSO'S).
The mount/tripod could be better. I'm working on
wooden legs.

My 1st choice was a dob and I think I made a good choice.
With there cool down time and added bulkyness I think it
might of been different.

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: BoriSpider]
      #351259 - 02/21/05 08:05 AM

Celestron NexStar 130GT (5.1" reflector)
Likes:
- Clear and sharp views in a small package
- Lightweight, carry the whole assembly outside in one trip
- GoTo's, when aligned, are pretty good
Dislikes:
- Tracking merely adequate.
- Noisy when tracking and can't go above 70degrees

Celestron C6N-GT (6" reflector)
Likes:
- EQ mounts rock! Once aligned, can just sit and observe with little to no recentering. This little scope on the C5-GT is very very stable.
- Views seem quite good. Haven't had proper first light, one where I work through all the GoTo and alignment routines, but so far so good!
Dislikes:
- Really haven't used enough to figure this one out. Right now, the weight is kind of a negative, but one I'm happy with since the mount is so dang stable!
- Wish Celestron pushed this particular model more. The 6" Reflector on the GT mount is hard to find, but the price is quite nice! GT mount alone, $699USD. Mount with this scope, $799USD (and you could probably sell the OTA for more than $100USD if you wanted).

Mark

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Orion 80mm Refractor (guidescope)
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: BoriSpider]
      #351282 - 02/21/05 08:37 AM

Oh what a question....

I have a few scopes.

1. Tasco Star Guide 60. 60mm F11. Bought this as part of Pete Rassmussen's Tsumni relief project. Kind of fun, the focuser is sloppy but everything pretty much works. Limited aperture...

2. TeleVue Pronto (70mm 480mm FL) Extremely well made mechanically, no casting here, all machined parts as far as I can see. Pretty darn nice optics, does a great job as a wide field scope, 4.5 to 5 degree FOVs at 15X is pretty impressive, works nicely at higher powers given the limited aperture, takes a great night for me to see the Cassini, splits doubles nicely. Works as a birding scope for both visual and digiscoping. THe only real issue is that it is an achromat and under some circumstances the false color is evident.

3. Tasco Rocket Scope/Orion Fun Scope. Bought the first one at WalMart for $28. This is a 3 inch Portaball style plastic toy dob. 3 in F3.7. Down Side: 30X correct image eyepiece, not too good. No finder, Eyepieces are proprietary though 1.25 inch but two pins keep one from using standard eyepieces.

The Good side: Knock those pins out, collimate this little scope, use the slip and slide focusing and it is pretty amazing. Surprisingly sharp images, does diffraction rings at 116X. I actually bought a second one from Orion so I could remove the optics and make a real scope...

One can even hand hold the scope, cradling it.

3. Celestron First Scope 80 EQ, F11.4.. CG-3 mount, not so bad, not so great: What I like: This scope does surprisingly well for an 80mm, showed the Cassini clearly, false color is minimal, does a nice job on double stars and even DSOs. At F11 focusing is not so critical. Does a nice job with simple eyepieces, plossls are sharp edge to edge. What I don't like: 1.25 inch focuser. This scope would be pretty awesome with a 2 inch focuser, field of view is just a bit limited.

4. Burgess Optical 102F6.. For the price, this scope is pretty nice mechanically but optically is it horrible. After waiting nearly a year on a promised 1 month delivery, it arrived with aperture stopped down to 80mm but was still badly astigmatic. A closet sitter that may be used for parts.

5. Old C-5 OTA, Not a bad scope, certainly the most compact 5 incher out there, With a focal reducer it can provide a wide field of view. It does OK at most things. I don't use it much,,,,

6. Orion Space Probe 130ST OTA. A favorite. It is fitted with a 2 inch focuser and provides nice wide field views. It also does a nice job at high powers on the planets and double stars. It is quite compact, 24 inch tube length and about 7 lbs. Dislikes: Cool down is relatively quick but it is not a refractor in the regard. Tube dents when dropped.. :-( Mounted on an Orion EQ-3 with dual drives and a Vixen wooden legs, this scope is a solid performer.

7. Konus 8 inch F5 Newt. Got this from Jeff Moore. One of the older Synta ones, optics are pretty darn good. Focuser needed some real work but I think I finally nailed it. This scope has a built in T-ring and will come to focus with a 35mm camera. OF course cool down is an issue and there are the various issues with rotating the OTA for viewing but I think this is a pretty good scope.

Currently it sits on a CG-5 but I just got an CG-5/GOTO/Celestron so when the rain stops I will give that a try.

8. OPT Starhunter 10. Essentially the same scope as the Hardin 10 inch DOB. I like this one, 2 inch focuser, small enough to be reasonably compact, easy to move about, big enough to do some damage. Optics seem very good, does a good job on the planets. Nice wide FOV with a 2 inch eyepiece for DSOs and of course with 10 inchers of aperture it is nice for hunting. Focuser is better than the Syntas, uses two nice chunks of Teflon. It holds collimation well.

On the other hand, the mount could be better, it needs the Telfon/Ebony Star treatment. Cooldown is an issue as it is with any 10 incher. Probably the scope I use the most for astronomy.

9. 12.5 inch Discovery, F4.06. This is an older scope and I have a "love-hate" relationship with it. I have upgraded most of the weak points, built a new mount out of birch ply, replaced the primary cell with a Novak, had the mirror refigured and both recoated, replaced the focuser with a JMI, RCF.

SO what I ended up with is a 12.5 inch Tube DOB that will fit in my 1992 Ford Escort Hatchback, has an OTA that weighs about 50lbs and is 52 inches long, can be setup in 41 seconds after arriving at a spot, provides some pretty amazing DSO views and when the seeing is good does a nice job on the planets. With a Paracorr, the widefield views are even quite sharp edge to edge, and those widefield views are pretty wide, for a 12.5 incher, even with a Paracorr the focal length is under 1500mm, without its 1288... About the same as an ETX-90 but with somewhat more light gathering.

Sounds pretty good and it is...

But that F4.06 mirror means I am never quite sure whether it is collimated, it does take quite a while to cool (its 1.5 inches thick) and when the seeing is bad, everything, looks pretty bad... The lack of tracking is not a problem, the mount is solid and pretty smooth what with the Teflon and Ebony Star.

I think I would prefer a scope with F5 Optics that was as compact as this one, which of course is not happening...

Bottomline: The only reason I can see to get tangled up with an F4 scope is for size, I don't think there are many 12.5 inch scopes that are as compact as this one and that can be setup as quickly. But optically I think F5 is a better choice.

10. Coulter 13.1 incher. This is an old Blue one, I bought it for $100. It seems to have pretty good optics but the OTA weighs 85lbs and the base another 40 or so, too much work, too awkward, makes me realize how nice that 50lb Discovery OTA is. This scope is destined for South Carolina, donated to someone who needs it for a social project.

Best wishes, clear skies

jon


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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #351339 - 02/21/05 09:43 AM

1) Orion 80mm f/7.5 ED refractor

Likes: Small, light, portable, outstanding optics, excellent focuser, rock solid on my SkyView Pro mount

Dislikes: No means of collimating objective

2) Orion 8" f/4.9 reflector

Likes: Good optics, good aperture

Dislikes: Almost too much scope for my SkyView Pro mount, stock focuser was horrible (replaced with Moonlite CR2, which is buttery smooth & no comparison to the stock focuser)

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Bill Grass]
      #351378 - 02/21/05 10:31 AM

I have a...

Sky-Watcher 102mm Refractor on a EQ3-2 motorise mount on DEC & RA. This is the instrument i use for all my pictures and is the one i use mostly.

Sky-Watcher 203mm Dobson, this instrument is use mostly for all my DS observing and some solar system included, i use this scope when i wish to do sketching mostly.

Also have a Bushnell binoc 10X50....

I love them all, no dislike, that's my story and i'm sticking to it!

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Bill Grass]
      #351381 - 02/21/05 10:33 AM

i'm in a bit of a transitional phase right now, since i'm in the process of selling one scope and getting another. but here's my comments on the two i have right now:

meade 16" dob
likes: great aperture for the money, thin primary mirror for fast cooldown

dislikes: none right now, but "out of the box" it had lots of issues, including: weight (ota-100lbs., base-71lbs), thin, flimsy secondary spider, poorly figured primary mirror, undersized hubs, poor focuser, heavy mirror cell, difficult to use finderscope, and low quality particle board used on base.

orion 8" newt on LXD55 & steel pier (currently in the process of selling the ota):

likes: great all around scope, good on planets and deep sky. nicely figured mirror, easy cooldown, lightweight. long f/6 ratio works well on everything, with a minimum amount of coma

dislikes: not enough aperture for the more "obscure" deep sky objects. synta focuser has some slop. mounted on pier makes it solid, but takes away portability for transporting.

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-Erik Wilcox
Homebuilt 16" Truss Dob
SV 80mm ED Nighthawk NG on M1 ALT/AZ
Nikon Prostaff 65mm spotter on Trekpod
Konusvue 20x80 binos/Peterson pipemount
Orion 10x50 binos
Homebuilt 80mm f/5 refractor
Mirador 60mm f/12 1960's refractor



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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351395 - 02/21/05 10:43 AM

Here's my list:

* 4.5" f8 reflector on homemade dob mount.
+ Pros:
-- fits in car trunk, so the whole family can come along.
-- relatively lightweight.
-- f8 is reasonably forgiving in collimation.
-- quite nice on Moon, double-stars; decent on planets.
+ Cons:
-- pretty small aperture for DSO's in my Mag 4 to 4.5 backyard.
-- non-trivial cooldown time.
-- still haven't got the dob-mount as smooth or stable as I'd like.
-- 6x30 pita-to-align finder (but better than orignal 5x24).

* 8" f6 Skywatcher dob
+ Pros:
-- much better light-grasp than the 4.5" for DSO's.
-- reasonable movement and stability.
-- 9x50, easy-to-align finder.
-- gives great lunar and planetary views too.
+ Cons:
-- can only take one passenger in my car with this one (won't fit in trunk)
-- non-trivial cool-down time.

* 2" f10 telescience refractor
+ Pros: worth every penny of the $12.00 I paid!
+ Cons: ditto!

cheers,
andrew

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8" skywatcher dob
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Bill Grass]
      #351404 - 02/21/05 10:48 AM

1. Etx 70at: Small portable lightweight scope, had goto till I messed it up somehow. Works great as a birding scope and for photography (non-astro)

2. Meade 8” Dob OTA: Bought it off of meade’s factory outlet for $215 which made it a great deal for a scope that size.
Did not like the mirror cell so I replaced it with a University optics mirror cell. The focuser is plastic and I HATE thread on adapters, especially threading aluminum on plastic so I still need to do something about that.

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Pentax K100D
Celestron 80ED
8" LX200 Classic
Atlas EQ-G
ETX-70AT
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: I hate spam]
      #351423 - 02/21/05 11:02 AM

Meade LX200 10"
Likes: Having a 10" mirror in such a small package. Scope, tripod and all extras fit in the hatchback of a Hyundai. Goto and tracking are very accurate. Beautiful views on DSOs due to light gathering ability of the 10" mirror. I can use lower end eyepieces at f/10. Naglers are nice but not necessary! Unlike the 12" and 14" models, the tube swings down through the forks making it more stable when carrying or mounting.
Minor issues: Narrow field of view requires a focal reducer or pan and scan with the hand controller to track large objects like the Veil Nebula.
Dislikes: If the tripod legs are not positioned well this scope can be a bear to mount. As the fork mount weighs 62 pounds, you want it to go the first time.

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #351457 - 02/21/05 11:25 AM

Quote:

I have a few scopes.




Yes, you do! I imagine Don W will be able to post quite an arsenal also. I'm lucky; this thread hit at a moment when I'm at an alltime low so my list will be manageable.

The main scope is a 12" LX200 Classic (forkmounted SCT), permanently mounted on a wedge. I like: At 3000mm focal length, it's just right for planetary imaging. It has sufficient aperture for effective visual DSO use in a relatively small package. The drives & controller are very accurate. Downsides: it's not very portable and at 3000mm focal length many DSO's are too large for it image well. Star images are a little blobby compared to a refractor.

An Orion ED80 (80mm refractor) is mounted on top of the Meade. I like: For the money it's an extremely effective imaging platform. Field of view is plenty large with a DSLR and field illumination is very even with no detectable chromatic aberration. Focuser is very smooth and precise. Nice, tight star images. What I like less: no focus lock (though this hasn't been a problem with the DSLR; I leave it on there all the time). It's way larger and heavier than it needs to be because of the 100mm tube. It's dark gray.

In the field my main scope is a 15" F/5 Starsplitter truss Dobsonian with Dob Driver II. I like: It's great for portable, affordable aperture. Fits in the back of the Jeep and sets up in minutes. It has tracking so it's perfect for public viewing sessions at the Club site. Looks nice, too. What I like less: it's only 15"! This one's gonna have to go to make room for the new Teeter.

Latest acquisition is a Nexstar 8 (8" forkmounted SCT). No first light yet but I know what to expect, as I've owned Nexstar 5's before (same mount) and C8's before (same optical tube). I like: This is the smallest, lightest, most portable, and easiest to set up computerized rig available with this much aperture. It'll be used in the field next to the Dob and will give me some portable imaging capabilities. What I like less: These "one armed bandits" use a slip clutch for elevation and there's a fine line between too loose (slips) and too tight (binds) when adjusting it. There's no clutch at all in azimuth; it can be rotated only under power. This early version doesn't track nearly as well as the current versions (N8i and N8iSE), and it's not orange like the N8iSE!

I'm waiting for the next two scopes; one's in transit and the other is still under construction.

On the way is an ETX-125 (forkmounted 5" MCT). I haven't owned one of these before so I'm extrapolating from my experiences with ETX-90's. What I like: It'll be even more portable than the Nexstar 8 for nights when I don't feel I need 8". Plus they look very cool. At 2000mm focal length it should be good for portable planetary imaging. No adjustable collimation (this is both good and bad). Good aperture-to-weight ratio. What I like less: No adjustable collimation (though the design is such that it SHOULD hold forever). No room between the back of the scope and the mount, making focusing clumsy.

To be delivered at NEAF is a Teeter 20" F/4 truss Dob with Dob Driver II and Argo Navis DSC's. I haven't used it yet, but I can extrapolate from my other Teeter Dob and the Dob Driver II on the Starsplitter. What I like: At F/4, this scope will be shorter than many other 20" Dobs, keeping the observer closer to the ground. Between the shorter height and the tracking, it should be perfect for public use. It'll be a lot of portable aperture, and the largest GoTo telescope I ever expect to own. It should be a very pretty telescope, and I expect the motions to be as nice as other Teeters I've used. What I like less: It'll be heavier and larger than the 15". It had better fit in the back of the Jeep. Rob Teeter insists on using Moonlight ball-and-socket truss connectors, which look very cool but I've never learned to like them. At F/4, some coma is inevitable. I do have a Paracorr to help with that. At F/4, most widefield eyepieces will be stressed to produce nice images.

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Tele Vue Pronto
A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 152ED F/9 "APO"
152mm F/10 achromat
Tak CN-212 8" F/12 classical Cass/ F/4 Newt
Teeter 20" F/3.8 truss Newt w/ServoCat
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Echo]
      #351471 - 02/21/05 11:35 AM

ETX-105/AT/UHTC:

- likes: almost everything. Fantastic GOTO performance for the money. Great optics, and it works brilliantly with the LPI. Portable, aligned, up and running in five minutes.

- dislikes: almost nothing. Tracking seems to suffer in cold weather, it wanders a few tenths after the GOTO before settling down. Tracking isn't good enough for serious DSO imaging - but, to be fair, this was a $600 telescope, what do I expect?. Standard focus knob isn't great, but a £20 replacement fixed that.

8" LX200GPS/UHTC: Arriving tomorrow, i'll let you know

Ben.

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Ben Ritchie]
      #351495 - 02/21/05 11:58 AM

Celestron NexStar 11 GPS

Likes:
Large aperture, excellent GoTo and tracking accuracy, great DSO scope.

Dislikes:
Heavy, a bit "sporty" to mount on the tripod until you become familiar with the heft and bulk, takes a long time to cool down on it's own, dew magnet without aftermarket dew shield / heaters

Celestron NexStar 130 GT

Likes:
Extremely portable - "great grab and go" scope, short cooldown time

Dislikes:
Shaky mount with legs extended, scope not useable at zenith with stock mount.

Orion ST80 Short Tube Refractor (piggybacked on NS11)

Likes:
Very sharp rich field images, extreme portability with the proper mount

Dislikes:
None

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: Ben Ritchie]
      #351547 - 02/21/05 12:35 PM

Presently ***

70mm TV Ranger
Pros: lightweight, very portable scope that's good for dual use for both birding and limited astro

Cons: extremely limited by aperture, and at only 480mm f/l, it's also limited by magnification. CA visible on tough targets, both terrestrial and astro. Odd combination of push pull slide focus and a rather stiff helical focuser.

Parks 6" f/6 Newt OTA currently only OTA. I had this on a CG-5 that I recently sold. I'm not big on CG-5s and have yet to really find a mount that I really wish to use with this scope. I may just sell it.
Pros: good quality, relatively small package
Cons: only 1.25" focuser, see comments above about trying to find a suitable mount, also, while these are easily remediable, I was surprised that this fine scope came with a couple Kellner eyepieces and a very tiny finderscope

Hardin DSH-8 Dob
Pros: A fantastic performer for the very little bit of money it cost. Nice blend of usability and ecconomy. Good eyepiece height for seated veiwing.
Cons: I hesitate to even list these as negatives considering how little this scope cost ($343 delivered new), but the mirror should've been centerspotted at the factory, and I wish it had the newer Crayford focuser that Hardin currently offers with the 10". Had that 10" with improved Crayford focuser been available at the current $500 price when I bought this 8", I might well have opted for the 10".


Celestron C5 OTA
Pros: small size, high portability, low cost on used market
Cons: less contrast and resolution than small refractor
This is currently my most used scope.

Previously owned ***

Intes Micro M603 Mak on CG-5
Pros: amazing quality of design and build The OTA was extremely well baffled, and even the 12x50 finderscope had builtin knife-edge baffles
Cons: Loooooooonnnnngggg cooldown times. Dewed easily.

Intes Micro MN56 Mak Newt on CG-5
Pros: Excellent planetary scope with a wide enough FOV to be interesting on some DSOs. Really good optics.
Cons: Kind of a cumbersome package for the aperture. Dewed easily. Neither of these was really all that much of a negative. This is the only scope that I've regretted not keeping.

Astro Rubinar 100mm psuedo-Mak
Pros: small package
Cons: Everything, really. This isn't a proper telescope. It's a Russian camera lens that ITE adapts for use as a telescope. The helical focuser is terrible. The swiveling ring mount is an abomination. This one went back to ITE to have that fixed, and came back in the same sorry condition it was shipped out in. So, basically, there's no support for these odd little scopes. The optics really aren't all that hot. With the supplied diagonal the scope is operating at about f/15, not f/10, and so the veiws are narrow and dim. There's no really good way to mount a finder on it, since the whole barrel has to turn to focus. Speaking of focus, it was very difficult to get any kind of reasonable fine focus. Did I mention I wasn't at all impressed by this bomb?

Celestron 90mm Mak by Synta -- This was a predecessor to the C90. It was marketed by Celestron, and then briefly picked up by Orion.
Pros: NONE, Well, OK, it is small.
Cons: Everything. At low power, the CO was visible. Higher powers were extremely limited by a very dim view. The useful powerband for this mini-scope was approximately 40-75x. I gave it away.

Orion XT4.5" Dob
Pros: A surprisingly competent scope in a smallish package, very reasonable price on used market. Even new, this scope is quite inexpensive, and IMO, is a better alternative to a lot of the "beginner scopes" out there. For me, it made a decent enough apartment balcony, and car camping scope.
Cons: Straight through finder made it really hard to aim. Sperical mirror is OK, but could be better.

Discovery 6" f/5 Dob
Pros: Pretty well figured mirror. Nice wide fields of view possible with right eyepieces. This was my "Messier Cannon" Inexpensive on used market, though long discontinued.
Cons: jerky movements due to unsecured, small diameter rockers resting only on small surface teflon pads, overly heavy particle board base that wasn't tall enough to get the eyepiece up to a reasonable height.

Orion SVP 8 EQwith dual drives
Pros: a really decent package for the money, large enough aperture to be interesting, but in a package that can easily be carried in most cars, at a pricepoint that is attractive to a lot of people. One of the cheapest ways to get this much aperture in a tracking package.
Cons: SVP mount really overstressed by 8" Newt, SVP mount made quite sloppily, focuser needed deburring, relubing, eyepiece frequently at ridiculous angles prior to equipping scope with 3rd ring for rotation

JMI NexGen 6 -- discontinued 6" truss tube scope on steel tripod
Pros: None
Cons: overly heavy, very spindly, wobbly plastic truss struts, very heavy steel tripod, To top it all off, my used sample came with a VERY badly pitted mirror.

12.5" Star Cannon truss tube Dob
Pros: very, very well built, extremely smooth motions, very good price on used market
Cons: overbuilt for size of mirror, difficult to set up quickly, long cool down times due to full thickness mirror

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18" Starsplitter II f/4.5
8" Hardin Dob f/6
C5 workhorse mini SCT f/10 or f/6.3
70mm TV Ranger dual purpose birding/astro
77mm Leica Televid APO
16x70 Fujinons on UA Deluxe Mt.
12x50 Nikon SE
8x30 Nikon E2s
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351763 - 02/21/05 04:06 PM

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What Scope(s) do you have? What do you like about it/them? What do you dislike? I'll get this ball rolling... BTW, this is Echo's idea, folks.

I have in order,

1/ An Orion Spaceprobe 130EQ LT. Likes: portable, good fov, decent on the planets. Dislikes: Spherical primary, thick spider, and lastly the venerable eq-2 mount. Could use an eq-3.

2/ 6" Starhopper Dob. Likes: PLanet Killer, can go fairly deep on dso's, portable, very easy to use. Dislikes: 6" alt bearing handles, gotta find my hack-saw...

3/ 6" Apogee/LXD55. LIkes: Very serious cool factor, haven't had first light yet, so can't comment further. Dislikes: This thing weighs a ton!

Come on, folks, toss your hat in the ring! Let's let it all hang out!




Didn't you leave something off the list...?

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Tom W.

SVP8 'She turned me into a 3-legged Newt' EQ
Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: desertstars]
      #351767 - 02/21/05 04:09 PM

Yeah, the Abomination. A meade 60mm Telestar AZ. Likes: Lightweight, portable. Dislikes: That mount, the finder, and .965 ep's. Paybacks are, tom..... Where's your list? ALL of it!

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Pete
6" Apogee/LXD55 - "The Beast"
Starhopper 6" Dob - "Shiva"
Spaceprobe 130 EQ - "Spacey"
Bushnell Fatboy
The Abomination
Sun Pak Pro 7500 Platinum Edition
10X25 Bushnell Camo Roofies
7X35 Tasco Classic Plastic (good views though)
7X42 Tasco Rare Bird
10X50 Nikon Actions (Type 7)
15X70 Skymasters - "DroolMeisters"
One ratty old IBM 600E LapTop

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: desertstars]
      #351770 - 02/21/05 04:10 PM

A pair of Celestron Noble 8x42 binoculars that are used mostly for birdwatching, but double as a handy recon tool.

A 60mm "DST" refractor purchased in 1970, currently being converted to white light solar observation, but once upon a time my window on the whole universe.

An Orion SVP8EQ, the Three-legged Newt, a good all-around telescope for viewing anything in the night sky.

A recently acquired 102mm Celestron spotting scope that is meant for daytime use and hasn't seen any astronomical action... yet.

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Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: desertstars]
      #351772 - 02/21/05 04:11 PM

At least you were honest...

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6" Apogee/LXD55 - "The Beast"
Starhopper 6" Dob - "Shiva"
Spaceprobe 130 EQ - "Spacey"
Bushnell Fatboy
The Abomination
Sun Pak Pro 7500 Platinum Edition
10X25 Bushnell Camo Roofies
7X35 Tasco Classic Plastic (good views though)
7X42 Tasco Rare Bird
10X50 Nikon Actions (Type 7)
15X70 Skymasters - "DroolMeisters"
One ratty old IBM 600E LapTop

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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351773 - 02/21/05 04:12 PM

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Yeah, the Abomination. A meade 60mm Telestar AZ. Likes: Lightweight, portable. Dislikes: That mount, the finder, and .965 ep's.




Hey - I forgot; I have one of those in the barn somewhere too!

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John C
Urban Observatory
Tele Vue Pronto
A&M/Astreya 76mm F/6 APO
TMB/LOMO 80mm F/7.5 APO
Tak FSQ-106N F/5 APO
Meade 152ED F/9 "APO"
152mm F/10 achromat
Tak CN-212 8" F/12 classical Cass/ F/4 Newt
Teeter 20" F/3.8 truss Newt w/ServoCat
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351778 - 02/21/05 04:17 PM

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At least you were honest...




Am not and never will be ashamed of the Old Scope!

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Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351815 - 02/21/05 04:50 PM

I have from largest to smallest:

1. Orion XT10 Pros: Outstanding views, easy to collimate, quick and easy to setup, doesn't dew up. Cons: Kind of tough moving around when pointed at the zenith.

2. Meade 2080 on LX5 mount Pros: Very nice views on planets and globulars, Great for public star parties, Tracking is superb. Cons: Since it's not the go to model it's definatly not for a messier marathon, Have to get in awkward positions to view certain parts of the sky, it's heavier than it looks.

3. CR102 on CG5-AS (non goto) Pros: I've only been able to use this scope once in over a month that I've had it ( ) but the one time I used it I was very impressed with the tracking and rock solid feel of the mount and views of Saturn, M42, M31,32,& 110, M81 & 82, and comet Makholtz thru the scope. Cons: So far the crawling on my belly to see anything near the zenith is not fun. I'll have to remember to extend the legs fully next time.

4. Orion Apex 102 Pros: Small, compact and is easy to mount on a variety of mounts. Give nice views on both astro and terestrial objects, preferred astro travel scope. Cons: Dew, long cool down, can only get as low as 40X with my 32mm.

5. Older Stellarvue AT1010 ( Vic calls it the battleship ) Pros: VERY nice wide field views! Takes power very well ( had it up to 160X with no image breakdown on Saturn ), solidly built. Cons: Surprisingly takes about a half hour to cool, Can't use barlow with WO 2" diagonal, if it was a bit lighter it would be my preferred travel scope as it is the weight limits the mounts I can use.

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chuck
10" Orion xt
8" Meade LX200 mount/2080 OTA
C4R on CG5
Vixen ED80Sf on Porta Mount
AT-1010
PST
12X63 mini giants
15x70 Skymasters
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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: chazcheese]
      #351862 - 02/21/05 05:39 PM

In defense of the Abomination: I've got some Baader Solar film, so it's my white light Solar scope. Neat for sunspots, lemme tellya! Just don't try it in a high wind, the images are like the numa-numa dancer!!

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6" Apogee/LXD55 - "The Beast"
Starhopper 6" Dob - "Shiva"
Spaceprobe 130 EQ - "Spacey"
Bushnell Fatboy
The Abomination
Sun Pak Pro 7500 Platinum Edition
10X25 Bushnell Camo Roofies
7X35 Tasco Classic Plastic (good views though)
7X42 Tasco Rare Bird
10X50 Nikon Actions (Type 7)
15X70 Skymasters - "DroolMeisters"
One ratty old IBM 600E LapTop


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Re: What Scope(s) Do You Have?? new [Re: werewolf6977]
      #351889 - 02/21/05 06:17 PM

Imagine the effect on a tripod & mount that saw its better days 30 years ago! I tracked down some rings so I can put Old Scope on the SVP mount. Looks absolutely nuts, but man, does it hold steady!

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Tom W.

SVP8 'She turned me into a 3-legged Newt' EQ
Ralph, the All-Purpose 102mm Refractor
Under the Desert Stars


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