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Dave74
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Man in a Tub]
      #5510703 - 11/08/12 10:25 PM

Well, the internet site should be taken down at the least. Gimme a break.

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oldstargazer
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Dave74]
      #5510727 - 11/08/12 10:37 PM

Well I just got an idea. Why don't we and all our friends get on twitter and tweet that know one should use the scope city website to order anything because you won't get it.

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Dave74
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: oldstargazer]
      #5510804 - 11/08/12 11:17 PM

I just went over to Astronomy fourum to spread the word. Not sure the mods want to hear it. Weird.

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Dave74
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Dave74]
      #5510891 - 11/09/12 12:12 AM

...and banned from Astronomy forum. Whatever. I guess I'm what they call a vendor troll.

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Jon Isaacs
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Steve_M_M]
      #5511049 - 11/09/12 05:08 AM

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More.....




The Scope City in San Diego was much the same.. Lots of scopes but they didn't have the stuff that people wanted. Parks Newtonians on EQ mounts (owned by the same people) never made it out of the 1980's...

For southern California astronomers, Woodland Hills is a great store, OPT is a great store...

Jon


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Dave74]
      #5511310 - 11/09/12 09:44 AM

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...and banned from Astronomy forum. Whatever. I guess I'm what they call a vendor troll.




Banned for life here too as a menace to society. CN seems to be full of us.....we're like the Astronomy Antiforum.


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CabbageMS
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5512771 - 11/10/12 07:38 AM

Thanks for taking the time to reply fellas.

I went to my bank but unfortunately they couldn't help, firstly because I paid through debit card and secondly it went through the paypal system and therefore is paypal's responsibility. I do find it frustrating that Paypal still accept payments through to Scopecity when they've been made aware of the problems. Perhaps it'd be worth putting some form of sticky somewhere to warn people? As the website still accepts payments and looks legit.

Thanks for the link to the BBB, I'll see what they can do.


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: CabbageMS]
      #5512790 - 11/10/12 07:50 AM

Ok I've submitted a complaint through BBB, let's see what happenes.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: CabbageMS]
      #5513265 - 11/10/12 02:30 PM

Rats. I've initiated a paypal claim too. It's beginning to look like the dual saddle at such a low price was indeed "too good to be true".

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: jerwin]
      #5513411 - 11/10/12 04:20 PM

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Another good reason to H8 paypal, and avoid them when possible.




Paypal is a pretty solid company. They don't fit everyone needs for sure, but they are a pretty safe and secure way to buy something online. It's not paypals fault scopecity sucks. They simply hold part of the sellers funds in a reserve for 45 days. With the exception of international in this case, that's typically long enough to get a shipment without something going wrong.

I'd never trust a money order with buying equipment online. That's WAY too scary for my blood.




Guess I'm a few days late reading this. You're right this is ScopeCity's fault not Paypal, and yes Paypal is solid, that's not necessarily what I was getting at nor was it my intent to whitewash over ScopeCity. It's just that I've never felt safe buying new and using Paypal, mostly because of the return/refund hassles, but also due to their fees which nickel and dime me to death. American Express Blue Card is so much more secure and VERY EASY when submitting claims; and I don't have to worry about trying to recover the Paypal fee. I use my Paypal account only for when I sell astro gear, and that's a last resort, since I much prefer check/money order; unless postage is greater than the Paypal fee.


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panhard
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: simpleisbetter]
      #5513551 - 11/10/12 06:57 PM

Lets remember the original topic is ScopeCity.

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simpleisbetter
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: panhard]
      #5513562 - 11/10/12 07:11 PM

Sorry Herb. Does seem to have been pretty much summed up though, don't do business with ScopeCity, they're closed. IIRC at least one of the CN members here used to be affiliated, but is on his own now. And I seem to remember reading something quite some time back about them closing.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: simpleisbetter]
      #5513567 - 11/10/12 07:13 PM

Just a reminder that is all.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: panhard]
      #5513726 - 11/10/12 09:41 PM

I just want to remind everyone also about what paypal told me while they were helping me get through to socpecity when they did this same thing to me. I spoke with a paypal rep on the phone about this issue and was told that if you have ordered an item from anyone, anyone at all and it looks like it might not get to you within the 45 days, FILE a claim with paypal for item not received. He said that they would rather have someone submit a claim that might have to be closed because the item has arrived rather than have a customer miss the deadline and not receive their item and not be able to get a refund. So don't forget file a claim if the deadline is getting close, you can always close it.

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Dave74
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: oldstargazer]
      #5513749 - 11/10/12 10:12 PM

Great advice.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Steve_M_M]
      #5519601 - 11/14/12 02:22 PM

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I just drove over there to check out Scope City. It is definitely closed. This is their main store in Simi valley, CA.




Can we assume that Parks Optical (next door and the same owner) is closed as well?


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Reid W
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Reid W]
      #5519682 - 11/14/12 03:14 PM

Upgraded to a claim. They have 10 days to respond.

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Paco_Grande
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? [Re: scopeboy42]
      #5519690 - 11/14/12 03:18 PM

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Scope City 100% Satisfaction Guarantee
Scope City unconditionally guarantees that you will be 100% satisfied with your mail order purchase, or just
return the merchandise in original condition within 15 days for a Full Refund, less shipping and handling charges!






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Re: Scopecity - a scam? [Re: CabbageMS]
      #5519884 - 11/14/12 06:04 PM

If they are continuing to accept orders and payments, but not delivering anything and refusing refunds, you can file a complaint with the state's Attorney General (http://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general). It doesn't cost anything, and if there is fraud, the Attorney General's office will take them to court - you don't need to.

However, if they simply fell on hard times, and went out of business after you placed an order, then there is probably not much you can do, and the States Attorney probably won't get involved.


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? [Re: Astro88]
      #5521187 - 11/15/12 12:57 PM

Scope City and Parks are closed.
Lumicon was purchased by Marc & Debbie Neveux and is up and running and shipping again.
The website is still up probably because the web host hasn't noticed the business is closed.
I left there in early February 2012 and the last Scope City employee left on Nov.1 and is now working at Woodland Hills Camera.
As far as I know, SC is not currently operating.
There may be a liquidation sale in the near future--keep your eyes open.


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