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GpB311
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Starman1]
      #5521195 - 11/15/12 01:03 PM

Aside from here, any suggestions about where such a sale might be announced? Would they update the site for that?

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: GpB311]
      #5521211 - 11/15/12 01:17 PM

Someone here might catch it and post about it. Just keep an eye on their site.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Starman1]
      #5521232 - 11/15/12 01:28 PM

Doubtful there would be a lot to liquidate. A lot of these businesses don't "own" their inventory. It is "on loan" from the mfg...most of it will go back. Most of what is left over will be used scopes/mounts and accessories (filters, collimaters, eyepieces, etc). Not that there won't be some bargains, but don't expect everything they had in the store to be up for grabs. Truthfully, I hate seeing anyone in this business go bust. I'd rather have them up and running...

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5521247 - 11/15/12 01:39 PM

yet their website scopecity.com continues to be able to accept orders? That's a terrible thing and the word should be spread that they are no longer in business.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Astro88]
      #5521364 - 11/15/12 02:48 PM

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If they are continuing to accept orders and payments, but not delivering anything and refusing refunds, you can file a complaint with the state's Attorney General (http://oag.ca.gov/consumers/general). It doesn't cost anything, and if there is fraud, the Attorney General's office will take them to court - you don't need to.

However, if they simply fell on hard times, and went out of business after you placed an order, then there is probably not much you can do, and the States Attorney probably won't get involved.




If they file for bankruptcy you can file claim against them in court.

Stan


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: RTLR 12]
      #5521425 - 11/15/12 03:25 PM

"If they file for bankruptcy you can file claim against them in court."

Costing you extra $$$$; and believe me, the creditors will get paid before you do. Chances are you'll end up with nothing, maybe a penny or two on the dollar if you're lucky. Sorry, that's just the way business law works....


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Dave Hederich
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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5522046 - 11/15/12 10:26 PM

The main question would be if they continued to process credit card payments from the website after they were "out of business." That has to fall into a different classification than simply closing down the store and "forgetting" to shut down the website.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Dave Hederich]
      #5522060 - 11/15/12 10:33 PM

Hope they don't turn out to be another Pocono...

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5522095 - 11/15/12 11:07 PM

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Quote:

Oh brilliant... just trying to recover my money with Paypal, but because it's gone past 45 days they won't allow me to dispute it. The problem is when dealing with the US (I'm in the UK), things can quite feasibly take more than 6 weeks to arrive, so that is an annoying system Paypal have there.

It's concerning that their could still be people going onto that website and placing and payign for orders. It looks like i've lost my $90. :'(




I am not sure if you have any recourse. Hopefully there is something you can do... The local Scope City closed down several months ago.

Scope City Closes its doors

Jon




The complaint on the BBB site dated 1-6-2012 I find curious.

http://www.santabarbara.bbb.org/business-reviews/Rescue-Equipment-Supplies/Sc...

And the website is still up as of today?


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: oldstargazer]
      #5522150 - 11/16/12 12:07 AM

If you were stateside this'd be grounds for a lawsuit on the otherhand I never would've let it go beyond thirty days without stopping the process.
Its too bad.

I'd contact the states attorney too. Alas you r across the pond and they know they've got you over a barrel. You could make a free google viewable website presenting your case and others. You still wont get your money back but you'll be acting constructively in warning others - IF infact they are the thieves this thread portrays them as.


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: greju]
      #5528494 - 11/19/12 06:04 PM

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And the website is still up as of today?




Not only is the website still up, when you click on "Store Locator" you get:


"Visit Scope City showrooms throughout California with more showrooms in other
states Coming Soon!"


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Gastrol]
      #5528500 - 11/19/12 06:08 PM

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Hope they don't turn out to be another Pocono...




I thought they already were.


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5529259 - 11/20/12 01:09 AM

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Doubtful there would be a lot to liquidate. A lot of these businesses don't "own" their inventory.




I don't know about that. I was at their Simi Valley location about two months ago and they had some amazing specimens. I'm talking 8-10" brass refractors. I don't remember the specifics as I only had a glance, but they had a lot of awesome scopes and tons of parts laying around to boot. If they liquidate, the Simi Valley location is where all the good stuff is

-James


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Reid W]
      #5539207 - 11/25/12 06:29 PM

Scope City's 10 day window to respond to Pay Pal has passed. Due to the non-response of Scope City, Pay Pal has returned my money today. Thanks Pay Pal. If you have not received your order, don't let your time expire to collect a refund from your credit card company or pay pal.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Reid W]
      #5539585 - 11/25/12 11:00 PM

Glad you were able to get your refund via paypal. They have always come through when I have had a claim and from now on when a delivery is looking like it will come after the time limit I will for sure file a claim just in case.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: oldstargazer]
      #5540205 - 11/26/12 12:12 PM

Also, it just goes to show that a slick website doesn't necessarily mean that you will get your stuff.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: oldstargazer]
      #5540269 - 11/26/12 12:59 PM Attachment (22 downloads)

Just checked the State of Colorado Sec of State website. They still show Scope City as an active corporation; nothing showing as filed for dissolution (see attached)......

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5540290 - 11/26/12 01:15 PM

The doors are closed. No one is working there. Readers of this thread should be aware that does not mean they have filed for bankruptcy nor dissolved the corporation.
But it does mean that they are NOT an active retailer, either in store or online.
Recent posts have made clear that posters did not understand that.


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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Starman1]
      #5540705 - 11/26/12 05:30 PM

I spoke to a lady who answered the phone at Parks optical (part of scope city) and she said they were going through "Re Orginization" and hoped to be back in business next month. Which i expect means they are trying to work out their debts with creditors so I wouldnt be too hopeful they will open again unless someone steps up with some cash to lend.

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Re: Scopecity - a scam? new [Re: Starman1]
      #5541037 - 11/26/12 08:59 PM

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The doors are closed. No one is working there. Readers of this thread should be aware that does not mean they have filed for bankruptcy nor dissolved the corporation.
But it does mean that they are NOT an active retailer, either in store or online.
Recent posts have made clear that posters did not understand that.




I guess that would be hard to understand considering the website is still up and seemingly taking orders.

Don, you seem to know alot about the situation. Were you an employee there or involved in any other way? Maybe you could let the powers that be know that maybe they should shut down the website if " they are NOT an active retailer, either in store or online." Might alleviate some of the confusion.


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