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Is what is in the box all we need to get started?
      #5553878 - 12/04/12 12:24 PM

I am very lost, but thanks to your forum, I am learning a lot, and appreciate any guidance you can offer as to the telescope I've decided to buy, and what I need to complete the package. Here's a brief background:
After years of watching my husband stumble into patio furniture while holding an iPad over his head to match Stellarium to the sky, I decided that maybe I would surprise him with a telescope this Christmas. As part of my research, I have been scouring the beginner forum here – it has been really useful and has helped me make a decision about what to buy him.
We live city-near, and I really wanted the 10 inch Dobson, that is until I saw the specs. Unless it doubles as a sleeper sofa or can be used as a spare closet, we don't have enough room (an no, we can't afford a telescope AND a bigger house – maybe in a few years). Also, I wanted something a little more portable for occasional, impromptu drives to the country, not to mention those times when he goes to take the garbage out and I find him half an hour later, standing at the curb, mesmerized by the stars - I think I could handle carrying telescope/tripod out to him, but I can't see myself wrestling the mini-Hubble out to the street without breaking something.
Anyway, I have kind of decided on getting the Celestron Omni XLT 150 (unless someone has a better suggestion in the $550 price range). Here is what is "in the box" from B&H. My question is, do I need anything more to get started than what is included? Weather permitting, it would be fun to use it Christmas night.

Celestron Omni XLT 150 5.9"/150mm Reflector Telescope Kit
• 25mm (30x) Eyepiece (1.25")
• 6x30mm Erect Image Finderscope
• Dovetail Mounting Plate
• Tripod with Accessory Tray
• 4 lb Counterweight
• 7 lb Counterweight
• 2-Year Warranty
Included Free
• Meade - Series 4000 Super Plossl 20mm Eyepiece (1.25")
Thanks again for any advice, and thanks also for the entertaining and informative forums.
Deanne


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5553892 - 12/04/12 12:34 PM

Welcome to the forum. The 25mm eyepiece provides 30x magnification as you wrote, and the extra 20 mm eyepiece will give you 37.5x. It appears you'll be missing higher magnifications which come in useful for looking at the Moon and planets (and a heap of other things). A 3x or 4x barlow lens would do the trick, or else invest in a few eyepieces giving you, say, 90x and 140x magnification.

BTW, you sound (a bit) as if you wouldn't mind spending a bit higher for something that is much less cumbersome and takes up virtually no space. Consider getting him a Canon image-stabilized binocular, specifically the 12x36 would be a great buy. Just the thing for somebody that likes to walk outside and look up at the stars.

Edited by Mark9473 (12/04/12 12:42 PM)


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5553899 - 12/04/12 12:38 PM

An 8" Dob is quite a bit easier to carry around than the 10, and standing straight up on the base it doesn't take up much room at all, and fits in the back seat of most cars. However...

I don't know much about that particular scope, but it seems to me you'd need either a more powerful eyepiece (lower mm, maybe around 10mm) and/or a barlow. The 20 isn't that much more powerful than the 25.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5553905 - 12/04/12 12:42 PM

Hello and Welcome aboard.

I think you're overestimating the space that a 8" dob would take up. Aimed straight up when not in use, think of it as a loss of a 2 foot circle sitting on the floor somewhere. In my home, it's a fine addition to our living room.

EDIT to add: AND if you do go the 8 or 10 inch dob route, a nice 2x barlow and maybe 1 or 2 eyepieces would be nice to add in.

Edited by howard929 (12/04/12 12:45 PM)


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5553906 - 12/04/12 12:42 PM

That is indeed sweet of you and shows how much you care for your loved one's. The Omni 150 is a decent scope and your husband will surely love to have that. Only problem I foresee is, instead of half an hour out, he may spend hours, but you too can enjoy this together and be mesmerized with the views of Planets, Moon and Deep space.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5553910 - 12/04/12 12:45 PM

You will need a diagonal (I believe the scope comes with a 1.25" diagonal; you may want to upgrade eventually to a 2" diagonal if you plan on buying any 2" eyepieces in ghe future. Also, if he plans on using the degree circles included on the mount, you will need a polar alignment scope (I believe it uses the same CG4 mount as my 102XLT) which runs about $45-50. Also, down the road, he may wish to install motor drives (at least RA) for tracking. That is a nice scope and does have room for growth. As it is also a longer focal length, it will be pretty easy on eyepieces. Especially if you add motor drives for tracking, you can easily use GSO or cloned plossels. Also, down the road, if you add motors, you will need a 12v power source (i.e. Celestron Powertank).

As far as space goes; if you break down the tripod/mount/scope it can store fairly out of the way, fully assembled, it's gonna take up space (even more space then an 8 or 10" Dob.) Truthfully, a dob will take up less floor space then an assembled scope on a tripod, and the CG4 with scope, does take up about twice the floor space as the dob would. Mostly depends on how up he is to breaking it down for storage since space is limited.

OOOPS!, sorry, thought you meant the refractor, not the reflector....you won't need a diagonal...but the polar scope and space issues are still the same....

Edited by csrlice12 (12/04/12 01:06 PM)


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: JLovell]
      #5553930 - 12/04/12 12:54 PM

Yes, a dob is much more easier to setup and use than the EQ mounted scopes and in the 8"-10" sizes takes about 2square feet of space in the house. I would recommend any of these dobs from GSO. Apertura Dobsonian Telescopesor the Zhumell Dobsonian Telescopes

Clear Skies!


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5553937 - 12/04/12 12:57 PM

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You will need a diagonal (I believe the scope comes with a 1.25" diagonal; you may want to upgrade eventually to a 2" diagonal if you plan on buying any 2" eyepieces in ghe future.



It's a reflector; why would he need a diagonal?


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5553950 - 12/04/12 01:04 PM

Deanne, to answer your question and not give you any of my personal opinions, YES you will be able to get started with the items in the box. At a later
date you can start upgrading the equipment if desired.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Mark9473]
      #5553958 - 12/04/12 01:09 PM

Quote:

Quote:

You will need a diagonal (I believe the scope comes with a 1.25" diagonal; you may want to upgrade eventually to a 2" diagonal if you plan on buying any 2" eyepieces in ghe future.



It's a reflector; why would he need a diagonal?




Yea, caught that after I wrote it; thought he was getting the refractor. Nope, he won't need a diagonal, but the space/storage/polar scope issues still are valid. Thanks!


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: csrlice12]
      #5554022 - 12/04/12 01:43 PM

Only thing I would recommend is a 2x Barlow. From there let him learn the mount and scops and see what he wants next. Finally I would find a local astronomy club and include in the package a prepaid one year membership for both of you. It would be a good source of local expertise and fellowship.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5554024 - 12/04/12 01:44 PM

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Celestron Omni XLT 150 5.9"/150mm Reflector Telescope Kit
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If size, portability, and storage is a concern, I'd recommend you see that telescope package before buying. It doesn't really fit any of those criteria in a positive sense. I think you'll find it's more of a handful to move and setup than a DOB.

Consider this:

http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=1086-13719

It's less expensive, far more portable, easier to handle, easier to use, and will offer fine views for years.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5554029 - 12/04/12 01:46 PM

If you haven't already purchased this telescope, I agree with others that a 10-inch Dob would be equally portable, and an 8- or 6-inch Dob would be considerably more portable. A 6-inch equatorial-mounted reflector is big, heavy telescope -- make no mistake.

As for storage, it all depends on the details. When fully disassembled, a 6-inch GEM-mounted reflector can be stored on one large shelf or two medium shelves plus any odd closet corner for the tripod. On the other hand, Dobs are usually stored in their working position, in which case they take up only the "footprint" of their bases -- a few square feet. Mine is a piece of decorative furniture in my dining room. It would also fit easily in many closets.

But in answer to your primary question, the scope is definitely useable right out of the box. You would probably want to buy a couple of extra eyepieces pretty soon -- but that's true of any telescope. And they don't have to cost a lot.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Tony Flanders]
      #5554110 - 12/04/12 02:39 PM

I'll echo everyone else's advice. a 6" Newt on a EQ mount is much harder to setup and store than a 6" to 10" Dob if weight is a major concern get a 6" dob and use the rest of the money on accessories. the great thing about telescope accessories is that many are not scope model specific and can and will be used on other scopes down the road if you get another one.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: frito]
      #5554117 - 12/04/12 02:46 PM

The reason the 8" dob is the most recommended scope...decent aperture, size and weight manageability, relatively slower f/ratio, collimation tolerances and use of inexpensive simple design eyepieces among other things..compared to the larger f/5 scopes.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: frito]
      #5554120 - 12/04/12 02:47 PM

oh and the binocular's and a tripod is also a very good route. quite a few members of our club, even one who has an 18" UC Obsession dob often only come out to party's with a pair a bino's and a simple tripod and have a good time.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5554337 - 12/04/12 05:42 PM

I agree that an 8 inch Dob might be good for your situation. You could also look at an 8 inch SCT. I bought my grandchildren 8 inch Celestron NexStars and they sit nicely in the family room.
https://www.astronomics.com/celestron-nexstar-se-telescopes_c11.aspx


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: frito]
      #5554339 - 12/04/12 05:42 PM

I am happy to see that someone actually figured out that we where chatting to a Lady not a man. It pays to read the whole thread. The big clue was in the original post.
I will cast a vote for a dob. Cosmo Sat has made some decent points.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: panhard]
      #5554376 - 12/04/12 06:06 PM

You guys are incredible! And you are swaying me toward the dob. When I get private browsing time, I will read all these posts more thoroughly (I've been at work). I just wanted to pop in quickly while I had a minute and say thank you for taking the time to help me. I feel better already.
Deanne


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5554666 - 12/04/12 09:25 PM

Actually, all you need to get started is a night sky and a neck that cranes upward. The folks who tell you that you need an 8" dob are on their own.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: rdandrea]
      #5554765 - 12/04/12 10:23 PM

I must agree that the 6 or preferably the 8" dob would do best. I have the 6 and it takes up very little space, much less than I thought it would. The 6-8 Dob can be carried with one hand, like a long suitcase.
Besides the scope, a 2xBarlow. I mainly use my 25mm and the 2x when viewing. Also a stool/chair for viewing. I would also recommend a good book, Turn left at Orion, for those nights when it's cloudy ( which will be the first night he has the scope- new scope curse you know )so he can learn about scopes and the stars.

Great that you have been on CN getting yourself informed, and that you are getting that lucky man a scope. Be sure to have him join us here once he has the scope.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5554929 - 12/05/12 12:39 AM

the XT6 you're right you can carry with one hand fairly easily. the XT8, not so much. its much more top heavy than the 6, remember i've owned both. the larger focuser and secondary mirror make it fairly dangerous to carry one handled the top end tends to dive tword the ground. i find that i carry it either by the tube base hanging off it or with two hands one on handle and one on the side of the base to keep it up-right. the second method has more control to it but does not get through doors as well because your carrying at an angle rather than straight up. if either was too hard for someone due to size and/or weight carrying it wherever in two pieces is very easy just watch out for those darned spring rope loops they love to get caught in the wrong places!

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: frito]
      #5555091 - 12/05/12 04:23 AM

Uh-oh, I feel Like I'm about to confuse you after all that "get the dob" advice. I've got a 6" reflector that's virtually identical to the Celestron XLT150 you've looked at apart from the mine having a slightly inferior mount. I've had it nine years and I'm very happy with it so I'd definitely recommend it, with one qualification:

Your husband has to be able and willing to spend time setting up the equatorial mount, and unless you've got a particular spot where you can place the tripod in the exactly the same orientation every time he uses it he'll have to do this every time. It's not too hard, and if your husband is good at/enjoys fiddly things then that's great, if he's mechanically challenged you're probably better off spending the money on a larger dobsonian.

Assuming you get the XLT150, then echoing what others have said I would suggest this telescope needs at the very least a 10mm eyepiece which will give a nice view of the whole disc of the moon, and a 2x barlow lens will also come in handy to give nice views of Jupiter, Saturn, Venus and Mars. A cheshire collimator, or a laser collimator, will be needed at some point to keep the telescope's optics aligned. A slight luxury in the "nice to have" category would be a motor for the R/A axis, but you can get this at a later date.

Accessories not directly related to the telescope I would suggest include warm clothes/gloves/hat/boots, some red film to adapt a torch (for protecting night vision), and a planisphere.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Maverick199]
      #5555186 - 12/05/12 06:51 AM

Quote:

That is indeed sweet of you and shows how much you care for your loved one's. The Omni 150 is a decent scope and your husband will surely love to have that. Only problem I foresee is, instead of half an hour out, he may spend hours, but you too can enjoy this together and be mesmerized with the views of Planets, Moon and Deep space.



Hi Deanne and welcome to Cloudy Nights. Do you already own binoculars? If so suggest that your husband look at the night sky with them. You already have a lot of suggestions but I will add one more. Look on the internet for an astronomy club near you. That way you and your husband can meet other amateurs and get an idea of the type of telescope that best suits your needs. However it probably won't help for obtaining a Christmas present this year.
As far as the half hour out while taking out the garbage goes you will now have to generate enough garbage to last several hours.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: rdandrea]
      #5555215 - 12/05/12 07:29 AM

I think I have a lot of stuff to think about...this is overwhelming, and I am so glad I asked for help. I spent some time reading last night, and am adding this (below) to my "possibility" list, mostly because of the price, which I know, shouldn't be the decision maker in a case like this, but hey, we might be diving off a fiscal cliff soon...
Anyway, if anyone has experience about this one, I'd appreciate hearing it.
Zhumell Z10 Deluxe Dobsonian Reflector Telescope
Thanks again...this is really educational. Now I must log out and go to work:(


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5555365 - 12/05/12 09:48 AM

It's an identical scope to the AD10, both are very good from what I have read and heard from those who own them. With a 10" dob he will be set for a long time. Both those scopes cost under $500 and have free shipping, can't go wrong there.

I hear you on the overwhelming part. I am going through the same situation picking out a refractor.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5555381 - 12/05/12 09:58 AM

Very quick question while I am on a break...and I hate asking this because any kind of telescope is such a beautiful and delicate instrument, but if we got a big dob, would it damage it to keep it in the garage (specifically would the colder temps damage it)? It wouldn't be my preference, but if we keep it in the house we will have to take it around a tight corner and down steps in order to get it outside. The garage is level to the ground and we could just put it on one of those wheelie things and move it to the drive, to the patio, etc.
Sorry if that is a bad question...
Deanne


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5555398 - 12/05/12 10:08 AM

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Very quick question while I am on a break...and I hate asking this because any kind of telescope is such a beautiful and delicate instrument




Telescopes may be beautiful, but they're certainly not delicate. On the contrary, they're robust hunks of metal, glass, and sometimes wood or plastic that are explicitly designed to be used outdoors under adverse circumstances.

Dobs, being extremely simple, are particularly robust. A Dob is extremely hard to damage.

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Would it damage it to keep it in the garage (specifically would the colder temps damage it)?




In fact, storing it in the cold is preferable. It avoids a long wait for the telescope to cool down before using it, and all processes that might damage the scope work slower when it's cold. That's true for 'most everything else in the world, by the way. There's a reason that people store food in refrigerators!

There are two things you have to watch out for: mold and exhaust fumes. If (heaven forbid!) you keep your car in the garage, make sure that you don't run it there for any length of time, and make sure it's well ventilated. (Both good ideas anyway unless you enjoy carbon-monoxide poisoning.)

And if the garage is humid, it may encourage the growth of mold on the optics, which is not a good thing at all. You would know based on other stuff that's stored there. If it is a problem, keeping a low-watt light bulb on inside the telescope tube will eliminate the problem.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Tony Flanders]
      #5555447 - 12/05/12 10:42 AM

Thanks for the VERY helpful advice Tony. Things to think about as I too am thinking of storing in the garage or shed.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: newtoskies]
      #5555464 - 12/05/12 10:51 AM

No problem with the garage as long as you be sure the car exhaust fumes have cleared out before you close the garage (car exhaust forms an acid when mixed with humidity, not good for mirrors). Also, if possible, when the scope is in the mount, put it in the horizonal position. While it takes up less space in the vertical position, in the horizontal position dew/frost is less likely to form on the mirror surface, and if it does, will run off. It left verticle, the moisture would "pool" in the mirror. Also, maybe put a shower cap on the mirror end with a couple of dessicant packages (I get mine out of old pill bottles). This helps reduce moisture and helps to keep spiders and other crawly things out of the scope.)

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: Tony Flanders]
      #5555472 - 12/05/12 10:57 AM

Tony,

One has to do what one has to. I get that. In my neck of the woods anything left in a shed or unheated/cooled garage rusts if it's able to and becomes a haven for mice, spiders and Lord knows what else. My telescopes are my babies, I actively worry about them and I would never, ever.... but that's just me.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5555598 - 12/05/12 12:33 PM

Just to echo the comments on useability - an EQ mount cannot be beat if you are intent on photography, but for general ease-of-use an altitude-azimuth (alt-az) mount is a whole lot simpler to point at things. I tended to fight with my EQ mount, whereas my dob's movements feel almost natural by comparison.
If you leave the dob out in the garage one easy way to move them is with a cheapo hand truck. When you are ready to observe just slide the hand truck under the base and wheel the entire scope out to your observing site. Much faster than bringing the tripod/mount and then the OTA out in separate trips. This is how I move my 12" dob out of the house. Lift and carry was a real workout and took multiple trips - handtruck is much easier.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: YetAnotherHobby]
      #5555626 - 12/05/12 12:50 PM

I see everyone has already recommended a dob, I would too. One thing though, with a dob, you will have to learn how to colimate it, align all the optics, to get the best views, a little research here in CN will help and with two people, itll be easier than it sounds.

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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: droid]
      #5555667 - 12/05/12 01:15 PM

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I see everyone has already recommended a dob, I would too. One thing though, with a dob, you will have to learn how to colimate it, align all the optics, to get the best views, a little research here in CN will help and with two people, itll be easier than it sounds.




The first telescope I owned was a 10" Newt on a EQ mount. I spent days and days trying to figure out how to get that working. Sometimes I'd drag it around to get it pointing towards Jupiter and raise one of the legs with a chunk of wood. In the end, I sent that back and bought the 8" dob I still own. Right out of the assembly which was rather simple to do, it was and still is love at first sight.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: howard929]
      #5555772 - 12/05/12 02:25 PM

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In my neck of the woods anything left in a shed or unheated/cooled garage rusts if it's able to and becomes a haven for mice, spiders and Lord knows what else.




Good point about the critters. It's not a problem with sealed telescopes, but scopes with ventilation holes are an invitation to mice and insects. Just think about it -- a big empty box with comfy-sized holes just right for you and too small for your predators -- who could ask for anything more?

This is, in fact, the main reason that I keep the scope at my country home indoors instead of in the garage. I make strenuous efforts to exterminate mice inside the house, but I'm not willing to contemplate the carnage required to keep them out of the garage.


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5555802 - 12/05/12 02:53 PM

Deanne, if you do end up getting a dob and store it in the garage, I would recommend covering both ends of the tube when not in use, and plug the focuser as well (the collimation cap that comes with many commercial dobs does a good job of this).

Good luck with your decision


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: rdandrea]
      #5555875 - 12/05/12 03:38 PM

My first (adult) scope was an 8" dob and it's a perfect 1st scope; big enough to make deep sky objects interesting, and as been stated by others, doesn't take up too much room when being stored. One really cheap accessory I found useful was a couple of elastic shower cap-type covers for the ends of the tube to keep dust out (my scope didn't come with any kind of covers). Good Luck!

Brian


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: fuzzystuff4ever]
      #5556065 - 12/05/12 05:46 PM

I have been sold on the dob, no matter where we store it!
If we do keep it in the garage, I am very confident that my husband will be able to wrap it snugly and securely, top to bottom. He might not even want to leave it out there - we are pretty sentimental about such things.
Now I'm so excited, I don't know how I will be able to wait until Christmas...
Thank you all so much! I will keep you posted:)


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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
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Re: Is what is in the box all we need to get started? new [Re: another lost one]
      #5557145 - 12/06/12 09:37 AM

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I have been sold on the dob, no matter where we store it!
If we do keep it in the garage, I am very confident that my husband will be able to wrap it snugly and securely, top to bottom. He might not even want to leave it out there - we are pretty sentimental about such things.
Now I'm so excited, I don't know how I will be able to wait until Christmas...
Thank you all so much! I will keep you posted:)



I like my 25" Dobsonian a lot too but it has to stay in the shed.


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