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drwho41963
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Telescope Selection Help
      #6475825 - 04/19/14 04:02 PM

I live in Arizona so I have many clear nights to take photos. I have taken a number of photos of the moon that show a lot of detail. I would like to use my current camera to take photos and video using a telescope. Can someone help me find a telescope so I can take photos of planets and galaxies. I need to stay around 300.00 or less. I would like it to be portable and user friendly as I plan on traveling to different parts of Arizona.
The amount I want to spend is not the max I am willing to go above 500.00 as long as it meets my needs. I tend to purchase electronics and keep them forever so I would like a telescope I can keep forever and is portable.

Edited by drwho41963 (04/21/14 01:08 PM)


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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6475828 - 04/19/14 04:03 PM

I forgot to mention I have a canon SX20 IS

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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6475858 - 04/19/14 04:24 PM

to be honest you are gonna have a hard time getting a scope with a mount that will take decent pics with that price range unless you go used and or get real lucky. I am sure someone else will pipe in and give you more ideas.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: hargy]
      #6475864 - 04/19/14 04:30 PM

Any ideas even out of the price range given. And and help to get what I need to use this camera would be great also.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: hargy]
      #6475868 - 04/19/14 04:33 PM

I don't mind going used.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: hargy]
      #6475881 - 04/19/14 04:41 PM

I like that Orion StarShoot. Looks like I can use it on and telescope I choose. But that telescope is way to much maybe half that price I could swing. Thanks for the good starting point. Do you recommend any other telescopes that I should be looking at and maybe able to find used.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6476179 - 04/19/14 07:46 PM

Does anyone else have any other suggestions?

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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6476182 - 04/19/14 07:48 PM

How about starting with visual observing? You could get a decent scope for visual use for that price, especially if you go used.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: SeattleScott]
      #6476232 - 04/19/14 08:22 PM

I have one for visual but would like to upgrade. I posted this question here to get ideas and then I would check Craigslist and other sites and maybe get lucky on a good scope.

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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6476257 - 04/19/14 08:38 PM

Does anyone know if the ETX-90 Maksutov-Cassegrain #3514-04-15 would be good for taking photos and video and what else would I need to use my Canon SX20 IS. http://store.meade.com/telescopes/etx/etx-90-maksutov-cassegrain.html

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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6476454 - 04/19/14 10:43 PM

The drives on the ETX-90 are fine for visual, but not for imaging. It should do fine with bright objects like the moon and planets, but not deepsky objects.

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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: jgraham]
      #6476475 - 04/19/14 11:00 PM

To fit your budget, try a <$200 used CG4 equatorial mount with motors and <$100 used 100mm f/9 refractor.
Add a used "steadypix" point-n-shoot camera mount.
Allows you to take image though eyepiece projection.


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: waso29]
      #6477168 - 04/20/14 11:24 AM

Imaging planets and the moon (bright objects) requires less expensive equipment than imaging galaxies and nebulae (dim objects), and it's all related to exposure time. The solar system objects are often imaged using video cameras and fractional-second exposure times, then using software to stack hundreds of exposures to bring out the detail. As long as you keep the object in the field of view, almost any mount will work. Dim objects also use stacked images, but exposures are 30 seconds to 2-3 minutes long (or more) to collect more light. That means your mount has to track EXACTLY for that long. You absolutely can try imaging with a <$300 mount, and there area several people out there with outstanding images from such a setup, but it's more likely to be an exercise in frustration for you. Astrophotography, even of the bright solar system objects, has a very steep learning curve and a huge amount of pressure to buy ever-more expensive equipment.

Browse through the "beginning and intermediate imaging" forum for some more specific starter help.

Brian


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drwho41963
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: jgraham]
      #6478427 - 04/21/14 02:19 AM

So what would you recommend. I just want a Telescope that portable and I can take good photos and video with. This is just going to be a hobby. Whatever I end up buying I will probably stay with forever. I do not plan on spending money on new toys. This is going to be it. My parents had purchase a telescope for me in the 70's and I just could not see anything for very long. You would see the moon for a split second then nothing. I had purchased a telescope for my son and we were able to see the moon and planets but he has it and I was looking for something that fits my needs. Which are It needs too be user friendly, be able to see both planets and Galaxies.

Edited by drwho41963 (04/21/14 02:23 AM)


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6478446 - 04/21/14 03:13 AM

It's difficult (impossible?) to reconcile your desire for a portable telescope and mount, suitable for photos and video, for both planets and galaxies, all for $300. Maybe it can be done, but a great concern I have is that what would end up being recommended will be disappointing in result and quality, both as a piece of equipment and in your imaging.

$300 to $400 will get you a nice visual scope, capable of planetary and deep space views. A 6" or 8" dob or maybe and 80mm f11 refractor on an EQ mount such as a vixen a80mf. Boost your budget a bit or get lucky on a used item such as a celestron 102mm xlt. These wouldn't be considered the best options for imaging, but given your price point you could certainly do web cam imaging, and even short exposure deep space of perhaps 20 to 30 seconds with dslr cameras. People do great work with various scopes in many price points, but it will be challenging without getting a smoking deal on a used scope. I think you can have a great time with these or similar scopes as long as expectations and patience are top of mind. Hop over to the beginning imagers forum for lots of info and help. Good luck!


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: AngryHandyman]
      #6478659 - 04/21/14 09:20 AM

how about an orion starblast? you could use it to view and either get an adaptor to mount your camer to the scope or use the included brackets to mount just the camera to the mount for long exposure photos.

Not ideal, but within your price range....


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6478677 - 04/21/14 09:27 AM

You want this telescope:

http://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=100292&so...

Used for $175 is an awesome deal!

This mount will work:

http://www.cloudynights.com/classifieds/showproduct.php?product=99859&sor...

That's the best gear for something near to your $300 goal.

obin


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: drwho41963]
      #6478739 - 04/21/14 09:55 AM

Closest thing I can think of is a Celestron 5SE or 5i or nexstar 5 (5i and nexstar 5 are the previous versions) on the used market. And that still will probably exceed $300.

Maybe a used ETX 90 could work...but the 5SE would be much better in my opinion.

Quite frankly that's a tough price point for what you are looking for. The taking picture part is what complicates it. It's not a simple endevour in my opinion. I am a visual only guy as I find that type of work frustrating and not worth my time (lots of other people have taken great photos of just about every object).


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obin robinson
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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: GOLGO13]
      #6479097 - 04/21/14 01:14 PM

Quote:

Quite frankly that's a tough price point for what you are looking for. The taking picture part is what complicates it. It's not a simple endevour in my opinion. I am a visual only guy as I find that type of work frustrating and not worth my time (lots of other people have taken great photos of just about every object).




It's only as tough as you want to make it out to be. The price point is tough but the actual process is not. I find it to be far more rewarding than visual. After all things like clouds on mars, Jupiter, or the sun change on a daily basis. The positioning of moons changes as well. It's also a lot easier to share your experience with others and get them into the hobby.

The $300 price point is completely doable because he already has a camera... and probably has a computer (considering that he's posting on this forum.)

obin


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Re: Telescope Selection Help new [Re: obin robinson]
      #6479122 - 04/21/14 01:23 PM

Obin,

I wasn't even considering the camera/computer...just the telescope. $300 is a pretty tough price point for a semi-decent quality tracking scope. I think the used market would be the way to go in this case. Even on the used market $300 doesn't get you a full setup very often. Maybe the ETX line would work.

EDIT: Looked at his post again and he said he could stretch it to $500ish. In that case wouldn't the 5SE used or new be the way to go. It has a build in wedge and it's pretty lightweight/portable. Equatorial mounts of decent quality are pretty heavy/awkward. So I think the 5SE would be just about perfect.

Edited by GOLGO13 (04/21/14 01:25 PM)


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