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Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question?
      #2573282 - 08/10/08 10:17 PM

Hello people!
I just purchased a set of Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 binoculars, in very good used condition, for $50.
They look fairly old though?
Does any one know when the B&L Zephyr's were produced?
Thanks for any information!

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: gearhound]
      #2573540 - 08/11/08 12:29 AM

Steve,

Here's a link: http://www.oldbinoculars.com/bauschandlomb.html

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #2574954 - 08/11/08 05:43 PM

Hello Steve,

In the coated versions, it was highly regarded in its time, but for terrestrial use.
If it is still collimated, and even without coating, you did well for $50.

Happy observing,
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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: Pinewood]
      #2575592 - 08/11/08 10:59 PM

The Zephyrs have a magnesium body, so a definite plus for terrestrial use. Were they not all coated? I have a 9 x 35 NIB. Too bad that Rochester threw in the towel in the early 1970's.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
      #2578888 - 08/13/08 01:07 PM

I had them out today birdwatching.....VERY light and GREAT optics!
No, they are NOT coated.
GOD knows how old they are?

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: gearhound]
      #2973100 - 03/09/09 03:42 AM

I've been doing some research on B & L binoculars. The first use of the word Zephyr and the light weight magnesium alloy body I can find is in advertisements dated November 1939. The 1940 catalogue lists most of the binoculars as Zephyr Light. This includes the 7x35. Not all models which were the new light weight Zephyrs had the word stamped on the cover plate. Catalogues as late as the 1950's still show images without use of the word Zephyr stamped on the cover plates. Obviously stock images and the same images span a number of catalogues. B & L started advertising 'Balcote' coated optics in 1945, just months after wars end.

So if your Zephyr is not coated it would be made circa 1939-40. I have an uncoated, not marked Zephyr 8x40 from 39-40 and I have a 6x30 which is marked Zephyr from November 1945 (paperwork) which has the coatings.

Does the 7x35 you have have the word 'Zephyr' and is it very light?


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2976313 - 03/10/09 06:20 PM

Zephyrs were the B&L commerical brand name of their binocular line post WW2. In the late 60s or early 70s, they moved production to Japan, and these have a diamond shaped prism symbol usually on the prism covers. Then they moved to the Discoverer porros which are also made in Japan. The Japanese made stuff is very good, however the US made stuff generally commands more money for collector's value reasons. The US made Zephyr's generally had Rochester NY stamped on the prism covers.

The 7x35 has a 50ish degree AFOV which I find a little constricting, however it is a popular 7x35 configuration. I prefer the larger AFOV of the 9x35 (Zephyr) which is rarer. B&L also made an 8x30 Zephyr which is rarer still than the 9x35 and also a 7x50 Zephyr.

The Zephyr's are exceptionally lightweight...among all claimants of such back in the day.

My 2 cents.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2977072 - 03/11/09 02:47 AM

My main collection is Zeiss binoculars up to the new models. I've started collecting Bausch & Lomb. I'm interested in the 8x30 as it's a favourite configuration. How rare is it? It appears in non light weight form in the catalogues from the early thirties. It's also in the catalogues from the 40's and early fifties which I have. When was it taken from the catalogues? Given its long standing catalogue position. Was it made in small numbers? I have an 8x40 Zephyr which only made one year of production due to the war and was not resumed after. It does not have 'Zephyr' and it has the older script and serial numbering. It has the diamond logo with the words 'Bausch & Lomb USA'on the case. In size it sits between the 7,9 x35 and the 7x50. The diamond logo with 'B&L' in it came into use straight after the war. The Japanese logo I have is a diamond logo in a circle. No words or lettering. Do all the B & L Japanese logos have this appearance?
Any info would be appreciated. The current Bausch and Lomb did not keep any old records. There is only a small amount of information on Peter Abrahams website. It seems the history of these wonderful art deco icon binoculars is fading away. Information on ebay on rarity etc isn't worth anything. They all say rare.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2977104 - 03/11/09 03:42 AM

I just saw an 8x40 B&L on ebay. First Id ever seen of such. An 8x30 also recently sold on ebay.

Seems you have better documentation than me. It could be that some of what Ive called Zephyrs here are actually pre WW2, and heavier binoculars (my being ill informed).

The Diamond was used with US made Binos, the Diamond in the Circle is the Japanese stamp, FWIU.

The 8x40 is still on ebay completed items. Here is the 8x30 which I have in my ended items and still have a link to....

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT&item=280310742149

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2977105 - 03/11/09 03:45 AM

On rarity, I gave my take.

7x35 and 7x50 are the most common then the 9x35, the 8x40 and 8x30 being more rare. I base this on personal observation of the well known auction site, that I have been following off and on over the years.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2977106 - 03/11/09 03:47 AM

Does that 8x40 you have a Zephyr written on them?

The ones on the auction site completed look to be Zephyr bodies, but it doesnt say them any on them. The weight given is very light for that era bino. So you can see the confusion on just what was and wasnt a Zephyr binocular.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2977119 - 03/11/09 04:29 AM

That 8x40 is a Zephyr. I won it. It is a light body and has only been listed in both CF and IF in 1940 with the new magesium alloy body. It doen't have the word Zephyr on it but it is very light. Not much heavier than the 9x35 but larger. A very interesting binocular by size. The first Zephyrs I can find appeared in advertising in 1939. I forgot to bid on that 8x30. I have seen Zephyrs with and without the word on them. From post war to early fifties all models were listed as light weight except for the 7x50 which has the extra waterproof gasket like on the later military models. The 8x30 is one I'd like. Maybe it was not a popular model so few are around to found. The old catalogues recommend the 6x30 as the 'all round' glass. The thirties catalogues included the 8x30 for general use but later ones recommended as it's main use as 'Big Game' hunting. It got the least ticks (one) as opposed to the others.

The Japanese ones intrigue me. I would like to know who the manufacturers were. I have a 7x35 legacy which is made by Kamakura. The J code being secreted inside the barrel. I have a 10x50 Discoverer made in 1983. It has the classic body. Japan stamped on it but no J code to be seen. I don't want to open it as it is mint in the box. Old stock from a hardware store that closed down. Both of these are eighties and I'd love to get my hands on some early made ones to compare to the US ones and see if they have a J code to identify them.

Do you or anybody know when they started manufacture in Japan? I know they bought Bushnell in the early seventies and David Bushnell became an executive in B&L. Were they making binoculars there before buying Bushnell?


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2978206 - 03/11/09 04:56 PM

I also think that some Zephyrs with a Diamond only (maybe no B&L inside) are Japanese made, so maybe that isnt a good marker. The US ones all have Rochester NY on them I think though.

I like the 8x30s too, and the 9x35s, best...but the whole line is well made.

How wide is the AFOV or the real FOV on the 8x40s?

Maybe you could share on the vintage bino thread....you seem realy clued in. We like pics on that thread too...

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2978388 - 03/11/09 06:26 PM

I have a Rochester 9 x 35 l950's or l960's, beautiful cowhide case , new in the box. It is a magnesium body Zephyr. Can supply serial number if helpful.

I have a 7 x 35 somewhere.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
      #2978833 - 03/11/09 11:15 PM

The FOV is 6deg 19mins. I havn't done the calculations for the linear FOV in metres yet. (I have a few new-old ones that need to be written up) It certainly doesn't compare to the Zeiss Delactis and Delactem 8x40's. Even though all three are uncoated the Zeiss are much brighter and have better resolution. I like the 9x35 best myself. I have a US one with 'Balcote' lenses. It has instantly become one of my favourite binoculars.

I shall share on the vintage thread. I have to work out the picture thingy. I resized an avatar picture and it came out squat and wrinkled.

Thanks Gordon a serial number would be interesting. They seem to have used numbers prior to the war. Then US models used two letters followed by numbers. Then my '82' 10x50 Discoverer is back to numbers again. My Legacy 7x35 I have only today discovered does have a number. It is located on the cap which covers the tripod mounting thread. It also has the model number and J code as well. It is very faintly stamped and has escaped me till today.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2978850 - 03/11/09 11:25 PM

Thats a kind of dissappointing FOV for an 8x40. I wonder what it is on the B&L 8x30s.

One thing about the B&Ls is that they are also sought after by the nostalgic hunting crowd. They were also more expensive than even the top of the line Bushnell Customs, from catologs I have in the 50s and 60s. Part of the pressure to brand Japanese made binoculars no doubt.

I always find the relative pricing of binocular brands in the past fascinating.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2978870 - 03/11/09 11:36 PM

PS - Id like to know exactly how Bushnell and Bausch & Lomb merged and how that developed over the last 30 years.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2978970 - 03/12/09 01:11 AM

Well Bushnell was selling 10 million binoculars and scopes in 1971. He sold Bushnell to B&L in 1972. He was made Vice president of B&L and retired in 1974.

B&L must have made a very serious offer to buy such a large concern. Bushnell had long standing connections overseas and was able to produce his binoculars very cheaply. They used the B&L body style. I guess for B&L it was hard to convince a casual buyer that even though the binoculars look the same. B&L ones for four times the price even though made in the same country are better. I suppose having another cheaper brand under their wing was a good thing and didn't seem to devalue their own name line. I think they must have been suffering a loss from the cheaper brands. I looked in a binocular catalogue from United Optics circa 1965. In it the Leitz Trinovid is listed as new on the market. The 8x32 Trinovid costs $210US and the 8x30 B&L Japanese made costs $224.50US.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2978999 - 03/12/09 02:00 AM

B&L FOV's
First Models 1934 1951 1980's
6x30 8'29 445ft/1000yds Same
7x35 7'17 381/1000 Same 11degs
7x35 Mono 7'17 381/1000
7x50 7'3 381/1000 7'16
8x30 8'29 445/1000 Same
9x35 7'17 381/1000 Same
10x50 5'12 272/1000 Not Made 5'5
10x45 4'23 231/1000 Not Made

The same models and statistics apply to models from circa 1965. Only these models have the diamond and circle logo.

Not very good for a company that boasts the best optics in the world in advertising of the time. When you consider Zeiss was using Erfle Eye Pieces in a number of models for wide field views and light weight materials as early as 1934. Often it is quoted as 1936 as the year of the Light Weight Zeiss. That probably stems from a catalogue of that time advertising them. That particular flyer came packed with the lightweights. Examples of the 6x24 Sportur show up often with numbers earlier than 1936. I have one from 1934. The flyer advertising them I have came with a 1937 Binoctem. This one I got complete with the original packing box and all paperwork.

I love doing this. Learning something with each post. Zeiss I am very familiar with. B&L is new to me and has pulled a little on my heart strings.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2979316 - 03/12/09 09:37 AM

My Dad had a pair of 9x35 Zephyrs that he bought new in the mid '50s. They were always around the house and I used them a lot looking a birds on the lake. Later, mid '80s, I bought my own pair of Zeiss 10x40s. Taking them over to Dad's, and comparing the terrestrial view, I was surprised how bright and clear the Zephyrs were. They are great performers. I did not pay attention to field of view, but the Zephyrs are pretty okay, because whenever I get ahold of a pair that is quite restrictive, I feel like I'm looking through a kids binocular. At night, on stars, the Zeiss was significantly sharper on the edges. That was a long time ago, and all I can remember. I've been looking for the 9x35 to come up for sale, but at $175 to $250 I haven't been willing to pay that much for nostalgia.
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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: geezer88]
      #2979698 - 03/12/09 01:36 PM

As far as I can determine the last of the quality B&L branded Porros was the Custom series of the late 90's. They were Japanese made and produced in three sizes 7x26, 8x36 and 10x14. All are great performers optically. Their list price (1997) was in the $400-500 range. Interestingly, the 7x26 version is still marketed by Bushnell and commands a street price in the $300 range.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2980032 - 03/12/09 05:17 PM

PG 8641 is engraved on the hinge tension adjusting screw at the front of the hinge of this Rochester Zephyr 9 x 35 individual focus. A tag on it says "1980 value $350-$400". The case is original and black.

I had or have another Rochester 9 x 35 IF , with its box, and a tan cowhide case. A two minute search did not find it. There is a 7 x 35 Rochester somewhere.

Did any of the 10 deg. 7 x 50 fat body wide angle Navy IF Rochester B&L WW II make it to Australia? What about the IF Navy 9 x 63? I took one to NSW and Qld. on an Elderhostel birding trip with my father in 1998. I used it for astronomy, and used a smaller c.f. for the birds, mostly. I saw a hobby falcon, my first one, coming headon at me during a random scan down a forest corridor. Very fast and agile, like a large swift.
I could have had the wide angle 7 x 50 body molds free of charge if I had phoned a few weeks earlier in about 1973. I have microfilm and paper WW II reports on the wide angle 7 x 50 which give complete optical parts radii, spacings, thicknesses , and glass types, as well as program history and personalities. But I have not seen them for a long time.

I heard from a retired, German born archivist, who was involved in the effort to catalog and store the tons of microfilm, just after the war, that the archived films are so deteriorated, for many of the WW II era records, including a massive amount of German industrial records, that they have been placed off limits from the public, and there are no plans, nor funds, to transfer them to a more permanent medium. I did a lot of research in the records in 1967, and again in 1970, and bought some copies. Has anyone been digging in the British Library Annex at Boston Spa, in Yorkshire, where ,I was told, many Kriegsmarine records are stored? I wonder if there are any of the optical data for the various CZ 8 x 60 for the KM? Or for the 20 deg and 80 deg inclined 10 x 80 for KM? Maybe these are in Russia, or still around Jena? I have some incomplete WW II CZ binocular spec and test plans and drawings for 25 x 100, 12 x60, and to other types, which seem to have never reached production. I have plans and design data, including drawings for production tooling, for the KM 8 x 60 by Leitz. It is a Porro II. I have trouble in reading the old style German handwriting. I heard that it was abandoned in the schools shortly after the war.

I worked for Xerox in Rochester in the summer of 1966. I recall a phone conversation with Dr. A. F. Turner at B&L, who was one of the pioneers in antireflection coatings. I visited with Alexander Smakula, the Ukrainian born Zeiss coatings pioneer, at his home near Boston, in the same summer. He was working at MIT.


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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? *DELETED* new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2980841 - 03/13/09 02:29 AM

Australian military was(is) using Nikons?

You learn something new everyday.


Im not a big fan of those B&L Custom 8x36 and 10x40....they had the "upside down" prism housings like the old Bushenll Customs from the 60s and 70s.....which feel awkward in the hand (at least to me). Addtionally they have smallish FOVs, but other than that they are competent binoculars.

Ive been looking to pick up a Discoverer series B&L porro on the cheap to check out.


I have several 9x35 and I think 7x35 Zephyrs I can inspect for identifiers and codes if it would be of benefit or interest to you tac. I just sold some, so I have to check how many and of what kind I have left.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2982778 - 03/14/09 01:14 AM

I believe that Turner was independent. John Strong at Johns Hopkins was another pioneer. The Germans used cryolite, which is more efficient than MgF2, but is SOLUBLE IN WARM WATER. I learned that the hard way.

Yes. Dr. Seeger gave me a copy of the first edition. I bought the second edition, but have not seen the third. I have been told that the third is strong on serial numbers and numbers produced. Just the ticket for the now all too common speculator/investor who is looking for rarities per se. Seeger was at the Abrahams convention in San Diego in 2003. I attended also. The Busch 10 x 80 plans fragments in the Seeger book are (without credit) from my collection, via a third party.

I found the 200 mm in 1967. Kuhne(RIP) , who wrote the English language section in the Seeger II, learned about what I had found from George Morris (RIP), who owned the 200 mm Japanese 1932 periscopic style 300 or 400 pounder, whom I met in 1967, about the 200 mm Zeiss. I had dug out the Jena reports on the 200mm and the 25 x 100, by Irvine C. Gardner(RIP) whom I met in 1970, and had shared them with Morris. Morris sent them to Kuhne, who phoned frequently in the late 70's or early '80s . In the end, I practically led him to it. He passed himself off as an amateur astronomer, but was a speculator/investor, as well as a machinist. He used some well-off mutual acquaintances as banks. One prominent collector/historian with a huge collection wanted me to be a go-between to Kuhne to secure the return of something, but K.K.K. died.

That is interesting about Trautmann. I never heard about him, nor have I seen the patent. A rite of passage for the budding binocular repair person is the removal/insertion of the prism cluster into the B&L body style. Remember: Somebody put it in, so there is a way to remove it.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? *DELETED* new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: tac45]
      #2982831 - 03/14/09 02:06 AM

You mean this guy?

http://www.bigbinoculars.com/kuhne/kuhne200.jpg

http://www.bigbinoculars.com/nikko180.htm

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #2982848 - 03/14/09 02:20 AM

Yes.

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: Gordon Rayner]
      #3415338 - 10/28/09 01:31 AM

Nobody has posted to this thread in months, but I thought I'd add something. I recently was able to use a coated Rochester 7x35 with immaculate optics and in perfect collimation. I was floored by its performance, despite its relatively narrow field of view and rather distant close-focus. It is extremely sharp, contrasty, and bright. I know this was a popular birding binocular in the USA, and I have to believe it was the finest binocular of its type made in the USA in its time. Do the other binoculars in this line--7x50, 8x30, 8x40, 9x35--perform like this?

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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: Jonathan B.]
      #3415845 - 10/28/09 11:12 AM

The 9x35 that I grew up with was a pretty good match in sharpness and brightness with my Zeiss 10x40 for terrestrial views. I didn't use it for night use, though, so I can't attest to it's performance in that arena.
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Re: Bausch & Lomb Zephyr 7x35 question? new [Re: geezer88]
      #3446916 - 11/13/09 10:04 PM

Here are some questions for tac45 or anybody else with access to B&L catalogs of 1939 or 1940. I'm curious about the introduction of magnesium for binocular bodies. These are questions about B&L, but I'd also like to know when German and other European manufacturers began using magnesium. I haven't found information on the comparative prices of magnesium and aluminum at that time. I assume magnesium was more expensive, possibly significantly so.

When B&L introduced the Zephyr, did they devote space in their catalogs to the use of magnesium alloy?

Did production of binoculars in the same configurations (6x30, 7x35, etc.) in aluminum cease when the magnesium binoculars were introduced?

Did the prices of the magnesium-bodied binoculars increase notably over the prior year?

Edited by Jonathan B. (11/14/09 11:38 PM)


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