EdZ
Professor EdZ
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Basically.... the "live" forums only contain THREADS that were started on or after 1/1/2008... there is now a "Forums Archive" link where our users can access threads started before 1/1/2008. The "Forums Archive" only allows searching and browsing... you cannot login, respond, or start new threads.
Drastic change for some of you here in the binocular forum. For instance the very old thread Classic Binoculars, with hundreds of posts and 50,000+ reads, because the thread ws started years ago, is now archived. No longer accessible to post in.
Also most of the links in the Best Of threads are now cut. That may change, but I'm not sure.
Also all the Minireviews to old binocular reviews prior to 1/1/08 are now cut.
I'll keep you posted if hear any of the links access will change.
BUT one thingfor certain will not change. All old posts have been archived and are now only searchable in the archives forum.
edz
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KennyJ
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VERY sad news .
In my opinion , this is hefty price to pay to reduce the occasional slowdowns of the site .
Kenny
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Zeiss 7 x 42 BGAT
Captain's Helmsman 7 x 50
Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
Swift Audubon Kestrel 10 x 50
Helios 15 x 70 Observation
Strathspey 20 x 90
Televue 76 APO
Zeiss 85 Diascope
Helios 102 f5 refractor
Various eyepieces barlows tripods mounts etc.
Panasonic Lumix DMC - TZ5 digital camera
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Simon S
sage
Reged: 01/07/07
Posts: 391
Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
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A shame as I have little to contribute to on this site other than the most popular thread.
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My binocular collection recent first
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/
My binoculars in Alphabetical order http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/sets/72157613812824211/detail/
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beachchairbill
professor emeritus
Reged: 11/06/08
Posts: 509
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The price we pay for speed and progress.
Beachchairbill
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Luigi
Post Laureate
Reged: 07/03/07
Posts: 4947
Loc: MA
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Hmmm. The site still seems pretty poky to me, although on occasion in the past there'd be times I'd just give up and return to the site later in the day. Maybe those really sloooowwwww periods will be much less frequent, or gone entirely.
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17.5" f/5 Dob. IM-715 MCT. 120ED. Lunt 60mm Ha.
Zeiss, Leica, Fujinon, Nikon, Pentax, Bushnell bins
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
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A shame as I have little to contribute to on this site other than the most popular thread.
Simon, don't hesitate for a moment to start a new one.
edz
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Jim Rosenstock
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Posts: 3727
Loc: MD, south of the DC Nebula
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Well, other than the fact that civilization as we know it has been irreversibly changed, I think we'll muddle through somehow.
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brentwood
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/04/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: BC Canada
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I may be thick, but where is the 'Archives Forum'. I've scanned the Forums twice now and must be missing it.
I do not understand why the very lengthy threads could not have been split into two parts as you see on other forums.
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Big telescope.Small telescopes.
Ridiculous binocular collection
I've cut it twice and it's still too short.
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Glassthrower
Vendor - Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Reged: 04/07/05
Posts: 16353
Loc: Kuiper Belt
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Hi Folks!
Reading this thread, I have a couple of points to share.
Brentwood, here is a link to the Forum Archive - http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbarchive/ubbthreads.php
As for the popular "Vintage Binocular Discussion Thread", a new thread could always be posted to continue the discussion. We could link the old thread to the new thread in the first post, to provide an easy access point to the older discussion posts. I do this in the Classics forum with our "eBay and Craigslist Scopes" thread - it gets about 15 or 20 pages long and it becomes slow to load. So I lock it and restart it with a new one that contains a link to the old one. This could be done with the vintage binocular thread. I do admit that I enjoyed reading about the various old/antique binoculars that are still in use and it was nice to have all of those corralled under one thread.
If this archiving process makes CN run faster and more reliably, then I am all for it. There will surely be some kinks to work out in the transition - like the dead links to older threads. These will have to be flagged and fixed as we run across them.
Best regards and clear skies,
MikeG
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Michael Gilmer - Member of the Meteoritical Society & Collector of Falling Stars.
Meteorites, Moon Rocks, Mars Rocks, Tektites, Fossils, Minerals, Crystals, & Trinitite.
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brentwood
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 11/04/05
Posts: 1115
Loc: BC Canada
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Thanks for providing the link. I was thinking that I'd have to find this post every time I wanted to go in there, but then I see that the 'Archives Thread' is listed in the 'header line?' above.
I did go into Vintage... Part one, but does it only go up to Sep 10?
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Big telescope.Small telescopes.
Ridiculous binocular collection
I've cut it twice and it's still too short.
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medinabrit
professor emeritus
Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 648
Loc: medina ohio USA.
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Well i for one am relieved that CN is back .I was going thru Cloudy days & nights withdrawal symptons.
Kinda like running out of beer at 2am.
Brian.
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Simon S
sage
Reged: 01/07/07
Posts: 391
Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
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A shame as I have little to contribute to on this site other than the most popular thread.
Simon, don't hesitate for a moment to start a new one.
edz
I will indeed! Thanks! 
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My binocular collection recent first
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/
My binoculars in Alphabetical order http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/sets/72157613812824211/detail/
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Wes James
Post Laureate
Reged: 04/12/06
Posts: 3460
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I am very, very glad to see C/N back... A day without Cloudy Nights is like- ...well, a day without Cloudy Nights!
Horrible!
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Wes
Atlantic Beach, FL
Some bino’s from Miyauchi 5x32 Binon's up through Garrett 20x110 Signature's,
Some telescopes from a Stellarvue 80mm NHNG up through a couple of 8” reflectors…
And a wonderful 4.25" Delmarva Shiefspiegler!
Some good friends, made here on C/N.
Oh- several cats and a wonderful wife!
Anyone want a cat???? :-O
"When your work speaks for itself- Don't Interrupt" -Gamble Rogers
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MrJim
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Reged: 08/24/09
Posts: 55
Loc: Mansfield, Texas
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I'm glad it's back; the break was expensive! I finally ordered a pair of Canon IS 10x42L binoculars.
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Jim W.
CPC 1100
SV90TBV
PST
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Philip Levine
super member
Reged: 03/22/07
Posts: 156
Loc: near Boston, MA
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Well, I tried to access some binocular reviews in the archives section, and got a "We Cannot Proceed" message, for several different topics........
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Zhumell 10" Dob (modified with degree circle and Wixey inclinometer)
26mm 2" GSO eyepiece
9mm 1.25" GSO eyepiece
13mm Nagler T6
Crayford focuser
DewBuster w/homemade heater strips
Nikon 10x50 EX binoculars
University Optics 11x80 binoculars
Fujinon 16x70 FMT SX
Surveyor Tripod w Universal Astronomics Parallelogram
member International Dark-Sky Association
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Bensi
sage
Reged: 02/22/09
Posts: 239
Loc: Italy, Near Rome
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A real shame!
I propose to create, main index, a new area dedicated to collectors of vintage binoculars.
In this way, but we will have a short topic passionate collectors we find our messages grouped.
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Marco Bensi
Telescope
C.P.GOERZ 1270/110 - 1910
Binoculars Gallery
http://www.flickr.com/photos/37533746@N03/sets/72157622478972171/
Blog: http://blog.libero.it/GOERZ/
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DaveL
member
Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 12
Loc: WI, USA
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Hi,
Its easy to get the links in the Best of Threads back. For instance an old review of the Fujinon 10x50 was at:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1514854/Main/1512008#Post1514854
To get the review now, just change "ubbthreads" in the above link to "ubbarchive", and then it works!:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbarchive/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1514854/Main/1512008#Post1514854
-Dave
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Rich V.
Pooh-Bah
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Posts: 1395
Loc: Carson Valley, Nevada, USA
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Thanks, Dave! 
Rich V
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Glassthrower
Vendor - Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Reged: 04/07/05
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Loc: Kuiper Belt
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Hi,
Its easy to get the links in the Best of Threads back. For instance an old review of the Fujinon 10x50 was at:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1514854/Main/1512008#Post1514854
To get the review now, just change "ubbthreads" in the above link to "ubbarchive", and then it works!:
http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbarchive/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/1514854/Main/1512008#Post1514854
-Dave
Dave, you sir, are the man!
Thanks for the heads-up on that. I'll spread the word around. 
Best regards and clear dark skies,
MikeG
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Michael Gilmer - Member of the Meteoritical Society & Collector of Falling Stars.
Meteorites, Moon Rocks, Mars Rocks, Tektites, Fossils, Minerals, Crystals, & Trinitite.
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DaveL
member
Reged: 09/30/09
Posts: 12
Loc: WI, USA
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So now we just need some script that goes through the best of threads and changes the retired links but leaves the good ones as is, or else automatically redirects you to the archive for the bad links. Is this possible?
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14732
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
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we don't do anything yet as the Admnistration has not yet completed their tasks and access may change.
edz
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Simon S
sage
Reged: 01/07/07
Posts: 391
Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
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Edz the archived The vintage binocular discussion thread has no ties to the images anymore. Any chance of resoring them just for a few days so I can save the thread on my computer?
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My binocular collection recent first
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/
My binoculars in Alphabetical order http://www.flickr.com/photos/binoculars/sets/72157613812824211/detail/
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14732
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
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if I understand some of the admin discussions I've been following, in the archives all the pictures are still there, but you need to click on attachments in each post to see the picture attached to that post.
edz
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Teach a kid something today. The feeling you'll get is one of life's greatest rewards.
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Rick
Post Laureate
Reged: 04/12/05
Posts: 3050
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
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I rarely had a problem with access speed with this site and can see no difference in speed now. Then again, I have 160mb pipe and being 14 time zones away keeps me off peak too. But I can say now that archiving all the older posts has been a user disaster. Info may still be there but is a tedious chore to search and access it.
Rick
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www.japanastro.com
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Glassthrower
Vendor - Galactic Stone & Ironworks
Reged: 04/07/05
Posts: 16353
Loc: Kuiper Belt
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FWIW, the images in the archived posts appear to be working now. It was an issue with permissions and the images were there, but not being displayed because one cannot log-in. As I understand, this issue has been fixed. If you try to access an archived post now, be sure to hit "refresh" on your browser and any embedded images should display.
Best regards and clear skies,
MikeG
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Michael Gilmer - Member of the Meteoritical Society & Collector of Falling Stars.
Meteorites, Moon Rocks, Mars Rocks, Tektites, Fossils, Minerals, Crystals, & Trinitite.
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14732
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
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Troops have been enlisted and have been assigned a daunting task by admin. They are methodically going trhu the "Best Of" thread whlie we sleep and they are editing every link to point to the appropriate location. between Best Of and Minireviews there are approximately 1000 broken links. It will take some time, but is on the path to recovery.
thank you
edz
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Teach a kid something today. The feeling you'll get is one of life's greatest rewards.
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
Reged: 02/15/02
Posts: 14732
Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
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IT IS NOT NECESSARY TO EDIT ALL OLD LINKS.
Our super admin computer guru Mike from Astronomics has added a message to the "We cannot find that post...." that says you may find it at this link, with a LINK ARCHIVE click button, and that leads you directly to the archived page in question. So it is not necessary to edit any old links.
You will find, if you click on Best Of links that point to old (now archived) posts, all you have to do is press one more click and it takes you right to where you want to be.
edz
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