Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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Hello,
I'm a beginner with this hobby and I found a lot of positive testimonials about the Miyauchi binoculars.
But I can't find any information about this manufacture. No website, no items in stock, no any information at all.
Are there any of you people who have long experience in astronomy and who can tell me about this manufacture? Is it still in business? Any places where I can buy Miyauchi binocular?
Yesterday I signed up for astromart account. Hope to find more places for hunting.
I'll also appreciate any information about similar class manufactures if any. I know about Takahashi, but looks like their 22x60 model has been discontinued.
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Rick
Post Laureate
Reged: 04/12/05
Posts: 3045
Loc: Tokyo, Japan
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Hi and welcome to CN. Miyauchi went out of business about a year ago.
cheers,
Rick
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medinabrit
professor emeritus
Reged: 10/27/04
Posts: 648
Loc: medina ohio USA.
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Although they are not producing Miyas anymore you can still sometimes find them on Astromart or Cloudy nights .
I have purchased 3 in the last 2 years.
They really are an exellent binocular.
You also find the Tak astronomer occasionally .Another exellent bino.
In spite of a few negatives ive read on these fine binos i love mine.
Brian.
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WallyT
newbie
Reged: 09/16/09
Posts: 2
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Kirill,
I just saw a complete Myauchi setup for sale on Astromart Classifieds in the Binoculars section. If only the boss would let me, I'd get 'em asap.
Wally 
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Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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Thank you Rick,
Can you suggest any alternatives? I noticed you have Vixen on your website. They have BT80M Binocular in production.
I'm looking for $1000-$2000 binocular like Miyauchi 77. That can produce a good picture on a high magnification. I'm not fluent in astronomical terminology. I mean the limit that most of binoculars have and only the best models can handle 75x or even 100x magnification.
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Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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WallyT,
I noticed this is "pre interchangeable eyepiece version". I want to have a chance to play with the different magnification.
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OpalescentNebula
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Reged: 01/11/07
Posts: 115
Loc: Calgary, Alberta, Observing so...
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Miyauchi is a great binocular as are a few others, but I personally feel if you are going to go over 55x then look at a telescope or adding a Binoviewer to a telescope. You will enjoy the views far better. 
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Yours truly,
Bill
"Good friends are like stars...you don't always see them, but you know that they are always there" - unknown
Binos : various binos, Zeiss 10x42 FL, Garrett Optical 20x110
telescope: WO Megrez 110 ED
Eyepieces: 13mm Ethos, 5mm Pentax XO, 28mm WO & 2x Powermate
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EdZ
Professor EdZ
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Loc: Cumberland, R I , USA42N71.4W
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Miyauchi is a great binocular as are a few others, but I personally feel if you are going to go over 55x then look at a telescope or adding a Binoviewer to a telescope. You will enjoy the views far better.
Except that generally, you either view with one eye OR you do not get as large a field of view, unless of course you invest in a zero mag OCS for a binoviewer and use it on an f/5 telescope.
Each has it's own advantages. I use scopes, binoculars and scopes with binoviewers.
edz
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Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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Miyauchi is a great binocular as are a few others, but I personally feel if you are going to go over 55x then look at a telescope or adding a Binoviewer to a telescope. You will enjoy the views far better.
I agree about the big magnification without having a look at the binocular. But choosing a brand and then the model is still an issue for me.
When I read Ed Zarenski review "Oberwerk 15 x 70 Vs Orion Giant 16 x 80" I said "OK, let's try this Oberwerk". When it came to me I realized that this was a waste of money. It was born with Cat Eyes. Any prism adjustments always produce the same results, the Cat Eyes effect still stays. Construction... it’s sad but I can't use this word to this binocular after my University courses in mechanic and materials.
To learn a bit about binocular internals and become a little more self educated I purchased “Choosing, Using and Repairing Binoculars”, by J.W.Seyfried. Waiting for delivery...
I understand that "Good" is rather relative. I also live in a place where I have near to zero chances to try a really good binocular or telescope. It looks like I need a list of manufactures that make products with stable quality, with a collimation possibility or factory adjusted with a solid construction. Then purchase such item online and enjoy the views.
The telescope is OK. Now I need something that fits my balcony. It is 80 cm in width. I don't plan extensive observation out of city in the nearest feature. But I can compensate this with my ability to enjoy the views each time I have a clear sky. I'm self employed and I don't need to be at my job at early morning.
More expensive item will delay the purchase. I'm open to any suggestions about any really good quality products. Maybe some of them are available for purchase from the dealers in Moscow.
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Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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Each has it's own advantages. I use scopes, binoculars and scopes with binoviewers.
Nice to see you in this thread, Ed!
Have you anything to say about Vixen BT80M? It's present in Moscow and has wider eyepieces choice.
On a Russian forum I heard that "Vixen is like a Japanese Meade". But Russians are less experienced in expensive things.
It is the most inexpensive choice I found. Any $1000 binocular from U.S. will cost me: DHL delivery (about $450) plus custom will charge me about 30% of item price + delivery price = about twice higher than U.S. price.
Maybe I'll be able to find other brands if any suggestions. But I'm sure that Fujinon is absent in Russia.
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Erik D
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Reged: 04/28/03
Posts: 3196
Loc: Central New Jersey, USA
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Available in Europe:
http://www.apm-telescopes.de/apm-100-mm-ed-semiapo-binocular_proinfo_30715.html
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Kirill
journeyman
Reged: 10/09/09
Posts: 6
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Available in Europe:
http://www.apm-telescopes.de/apm-100-mm-ed-semiapo-binocular_proinfo_30715.html
Thank you. This brand is totally new for me. I'll read as much as I can about this item.
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Erik D
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Reged: 04/28/03
Posts: 3196
Loc: Central New Jersey, USA
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APM APO telescopes have been around for about a decade. The optics are made in Russia, OTA in Germany. The APM 100 mm ED binocular is a Chinese import. It's the same design as the one offered by Garrett Optical in the USA:
http://www.garrettoptical.com/Garrett-100mm-Binocular-Telescope-p/gt100-45.htm
You can find several reviews of the GO version in the binocular mini-review section of this forum.
I am not sure if there is a difference in the objective glass. APM says his is "semi-apt". Garrett makes no such claim. Mechanical construction should be the same. From the APM America web page:
http://apmamerica.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=10&products_id=64
My friend has an older pair of APM 45 deg 100mm with non standard 25X and 40X EPs. He purchased a pair for $995 USD. Less than 1/2 of what a pair of 100 mm Miyauchii cost. Mechanical construction is a step below the Miyauchi too. I hope the newer version is better.
I suggest you make sure there is some way APM can handle the after sales warranty/exchange issues for you in Russia before making the purchase.
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beachchairbill
professor emeritus
Reged: 11/06/08
Posts: 505
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From what I can see, about the only difference between the GBT 100/45 and the APM 100/45 is the color, one is black and one is white.
Also, it has been many months now since anyone has reported their findings on the GBT 100/45.
Beachchairbill
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GlenM
Vendor
Reged: 05/20/07
Posts: 1738
Loc: Lancashire UK
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I've still got mine Bill
Been a bit busy and the weather's not been at best either. I see you now have a mirror thingy 
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Glen
www.lyraoptic.co.uk
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Rich V.
Pooh-Bah
Reged: 01/02/05
Posts: 1393
Loc: Carson Valley, Nevada, USA
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Anyone tried Glenn's method of measuring the effective aperture of the Garretts/APMs yet? How about the Miyauchi Galaxy/ Exceed owners? It's one more bit we need to know about these models! Bad astro weather is a great excuse to fiddle with your giant binoculars in the comfort of the house!
True aperture? A Quick Way to Measure!
I measured the f7.5 Miyauchi Saturn IIIs at 100mm but don't know about the faster f5 Miya Galaxy or the Garrett f5.3 models. Come on guys, it's easy!
If we don't document this information here on the Binocular forum where else is anyone going to find it? We're not going to see new Miyauchis any more so let's quantify the clones!
Rich V
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Binoculars:
33/50/75/150x100 Saturn III, 16x70 FMT-SX, 10x50 PCF-V, 10x43 DCF-SP, 10x35 E2, 7x35 E, 8x30 E2, 7x26 Custom, 8x23AS Diplomat, 8x23 Travelite
Scopes:
C9.25, 6" f8 reflector, SV80S
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Philip Levine
super member
Reged: 03/22/07
Posts: 156
Loc: near Boston, MA
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Hi Erik,
APM, Garrett, who can keep the details straight?
With all the "American" sounding manufacturer names, who wouldn't be confused as to where items are made, Russia, China, etc.
I am wondering if someone more knowledgeable than me might create a current listing in table form for this forum, an objective table, listing country of orgin, type of glass used, coating, focal length, eye relief, as well as magnification, aperature.
Phil
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Nikon 10x50 EX binoculars
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KennyJ
Reged: 04/27/03
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Loc: Lancashire UK
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< I am wondering if someone more knowledgeable than me might create a current listing in table form for this forum, an objective table, listing country of orgin, type of glass used, coating, focal length, eye relief, as well as magnification, aperature. >
Philip ,
I'm sure that 95% of what you request already exists in even greater detail in the exhaustive articles , reports and reviews , just by the forum moderator EdZ alone !
Gathering and digesting information such as this can be a bit like choosing and eating food .
Fast food may be the quickest , easiest option , but is seldom the most nourishing or most healthy .
The information is right here in the archives , it just needs time and patience to locate , read and digest it all !
Kenny
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Nikon 10 x 42 Superior E
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beachchairbill
professor emeritus
Reged: 11/06/08
Posts: 505
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Glen,
I still have mine and they are set up looking out my kitchen window. Wonder how they have been selling as of late, if at all?
Rich V - I will take a look at your True Ap and see if I can figure it out.
Erik D - welcome back
BB
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beachchairbill
professor emeritus
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Posts: 505
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Rich V
Does this sound right for the GBT 100/45 - 3" or can you add more details for this test. Also, I had a 20mm EP in the focuser at the time.
BB
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