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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Vintage Binocular Collection
      #3608612 - 02/06/10 01:45 PM

For several years I have enjoyed collecting vintage binoculars. The collection of 43 mostly vintage binoculars can be viewed at:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them. In particular, as detailed at this site I have specific questions about the following binoculars:
Ross No.6 Mk I 4X24
Rodenstock DF 03 6X24
Ross BinoPrism No. 5 Mk II 7X50
Barr & Stroud CF 41 7X50
Pecar 8X40
Schutz Ruf & Co Kassel Heliolith 10X50


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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3608643 - 02/06/10 02:05 PM

You have some super binoculars Frank!

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brentwood
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #3608738 - 02/06/10 02:42 PM

That's a great collection! How did you get all those British binoculars in Manitoba? I may just have to take a trip out there to check the trap lines!

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Bensi
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Reged: 02/22/09

Loc: Italy, Near Rome
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3609885 - 02/07/10 03:53 AM

Awesome!
You've got binoculars historically important.
I am particularly impressed by Rodenstock DF 03 6x24 and the restoration of the Zeiss 6x24, but many others are spectacular.
I do not have space at home to other bincoli and am making changes and sales of equipment to increase my chances, I tell you this thing because I like to have some model of those binoculars Navy Ross English which are quite large (you have many of them).
Today .. I could not even make take hold.
My wife would put me out of the house ... and with this cold ... brrrrr

Congratulations again!


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potts34
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Bensi]
      #3609899 - 02/07/10 04:29 AM

Nice collection Frank.

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Bensi]
      #3613912 - 02/09/10 12:24 AM

Bensi, I have just acquired a Goerz 9X Trieder. Once I receive it, I will post some pictures, and also, no doubt, will have a lot of questions to ask you!

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FrankL
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Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #3613921 - 02/09/10 12:31 AM

Simon, I've just been looking at your flickr page and see you've had over 10,000 views. This is amazing. I have a question for you about your description of the Barr & Stroud CF 41. You state it has a "crystal ball effect". What is this, and what would be the cause?

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: brentwood]
      #3613930 - 02/09/10 12:44 AM

No surprise a great many of the British binoculars were acquired via British sellers, but I have acquired several in Canada, one from Manitoba and two from British Columbia. All three have pristine unmarked optics. It seems to me that in Canada, for some reason, more vintage binoculars come up for sale out of BC than any other province although Ontario would be a close 2nd.

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harbinjer
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Reged: 12/17/08

Loc: Southeastern Minnesota
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3613935 - 02/09/10 12:49 AM

I would bet that its the "rolling ball effect" by anther name. When straight lines near the outside bend inward at top and bottom. It happens when you don't have any pincushion, IIRC.

Nice collection FrankL. I have a tasco #118. It is pretty good but I like the Jason Statesman 7x35 EWA better.

What do you think of the Nikon A series, compared to contemporaries, or more recent Nikons.

Edited by harbinjer (02/09/10 01:03 AM)


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FrankL
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: harbinjer]
      #3619382 - 02/11/10 06:47 PM

I think you're correct about the rolling ball effect caused by barrel distortion. I was just looking at Fan Tao's site:
http://binofan.home.att.net/lem7x50.htm
and he likens this distortion to looking through a ball or globe.

Regarding Nikon A series compared to later Nikons: 1) All are of excellent build quality. Possibly the prisms in the EII and SE series are more securely fastened but I've have never disassembled any to find out. 2) I think most of the A series glasses have wider FOV's which I like. 3) The greenish coatings introduced on later E series glasses are far superior to the purplish A series coatings although these are quite good compared to other similarly coated binoculars of the period. 4) I absolutely love the soft rubber eyecups on the later Nikons. Fortunately, I don't wear glasses. 5) I have read that the 7X35 J-B7 was the best of the series but have never had one and can't comment. I have, however, had two of the 9X35 J-B7's, and this one seems to me to be the weak sister, just not having quite the sharpness of image in center of field found on all their other glasses of any series.


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Bensi
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Reged: 02/22/09

Loc: Italy, Near Rome
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3620144 - 02/12/10 06:07 AM

Good News!

No problems!

It's fine for me.

bye


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Bensi]
      #3656448 - 03/02/10 01:18 PM

The following binoculars have been added to my collection since the last posting on February 6/10:
Bushnell Rangemaster 7X35
Goerz Trieder 9X20
Huet Extra Lumineuse 7X24
Spindler & Hoyer Feldglas 08 6X39
Ross Bino.Prism Mk IV 5X40
Lumex Stereo 10X35
Once again, I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them. In particular,I have specific questions about the following binoculars:
Huet Extra Lumineuse 7X24
Lumex Stereo 10X35
Also, thanks to information contributed by members of this and other forums, the descriptions of the following binoculars have been significantly revised since the last posting:
Barr & Stroud CF 41 7X50
Ross No.6 Mk I 4X24
Rodenstock DF 03 6X24
The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623424302180/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

Bensi,
Have a look at the Goerz Trieder 9X. Do you know the year serial #68442 would have been manufactured? I look forward to any other information you can give about this binocular.


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FrankL
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Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3783822 - 05/03/10 02:50 PM

The following has been added to my collection since the last posting on March 4/10:
-Huet Paris Modele 1933 Type 1 8X30
-BBT Krauss Modele 1933 Type 2 8X30
-Ross Prism Binocular 8X20
-Nash-Kelvinator M3 6X30
-Interesting books, articles and websites about binoculars
-Zeiss Silvarem 6X30 Tension Knob Tool
-REL 7X50 with BOP Filter Modification
-Barr & Stroud CF25 7X42 with a) internal view of prism clamp and b) view compared to CF41
-Oigee 6X36
-Barr & Stroud CF41 internal views of a) prism arrangement, b) desiccator tubes, c) colour filter wheel

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them. In particular, I have specific questions about the following binoculars:
-Huet Paris Modele 1933 Type 1 8X30
-BBT Krauss Modele 1933 Type 2 8X30
-Oigee 6X36
-REL 7X50 with BOP Filter Modification. Particular to this, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, and any other information about its history and manufacture.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623432947321/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

Edited by FrankL (05/03/10 02:55 PM)


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3870772 - 06/17/10 04:11 PM

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on May3/10:
REL C.G.B. 54G.A./C.G.B. 57G.A. 7X50
REL C.G.B. 57G.A. 7X50 with Dry Air Adapter
Barr & Stroud 7X CF31 7X50
Nippon Kogaku 7X50 7.3 deg
Nash-Kelvinator Corp. Binocular M3 6X30 Reticule (View 2)
Huet Paris Modele 1933 Type 1 8X30 Prism Cage (View 2)
Huet Paris Modele 1933 Type 1 8X30 Prism Removed from Cage (View 3)
Barr & Stroud 7X CF 25 7X42 Balsamoiding Material (View 5)
Ross X5 Bino.Prism Mk IV 5X40 with REL Dry Air Adapter (View 2)

The following have been significantly updated with new information and/or correction of errors since May 3/10:
-Huet Paris Modele 1933 Type 1 8X30
-BBT Krauss Modele 1933 Type 2 8X30
-Nash-Kelvinator M3 6X30
-Interesting books, articles and websites about binoculars (books by Forslund, Law, Rohan, and Seeger added)
-REL 7X50 with BOP Filter Modification

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them. In particular, I have specific questions about the following binocular:
-Nippon Kogaku 7X50 7.3 deg

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157624056926230/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

Edited by FrankL (06/17/10 04:14 PM)


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orbitaljump
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Reged: 01/29/06

Loc: Charleston, SC
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3871145 - 06/17/10 07:41 PM

Very nice collection FrankL.

I specialize in cheaper vintage Japanese stuff.

Edited by orbitaljump (06/17/10 07:42 PM)


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Simon S
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Loc: Crawley West Sussex UK
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #3871790 - 06/18/10 07:27 AM

Quote:

Very nice collection FrankL.

I specialize in cheaper vintage Japanese stuff.



I specialize in any old rubbish


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orbitaljump
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #3872802 - 06/18/10 06:35 PM

Me too. ;0

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: orbitaljump]
      #3978876 - 08/12/10 01:26 PM

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on June 17/10:
1) Barr & Stroud CF 24 8X30.5
2) Bausch & Lomb U.S. NAVY BU.SHIPS MARK 28 MOD 0 7X50 with Variable Density Filter Attached
3) BBT Krauss Paris Grand champ décigrades 8X30
4) BBT Krauss Paris Modele 1933 Type 2 8X30 (views after restoration)
5) CAL No 5 CDN Mk 2/4 (Upgraded from REL C.G.B. 40 M.A.) 7X50
6) Hood Case for CAL No 5 CDN Mk 2/4 7X50
7) Huet Extra Lumineuse 7X (disassembled to show telemetric device in ocular) 7X22
8) Leitz Canada (ELCAN) 7X50B Civilian Model
9) REL C.G.B. 57 G.A. 7X50 (Fluorided, Canadian C/ Broad Arrow)
10) Ross BinoPrism No. 5 Mk IV 7X50
11) Tasco, Model No. 322 8X40
12) Zeiss Jena, DF 6x with case (captured by Canadian forces during battle for Lens generating station)

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157624352652061/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/


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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3980768 - 08/13/10 12:30 PM

Some lovely additions Frank, but those Huet Extra Lumineuse's are really interesting.

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FrankL
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Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #3980842 - 08/13/10 01:11 PM

I really like the telemetric device. Very simple but it took a while to discover how it worked. I'm not sure why it would have been preferable to a graticule other than it may have been less costly to manufacture.

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