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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #3980935 - 08/13/10 02:02 PM

The French are always innovating. Do you remember the Citroen DS cars with their unique suspension?

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #4116517 - 10/14/10 10:17 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on August 12/10:
1) Colmont 8X M.G.(Ministère de la Guerre) 8X23
2) Gundlach-Manahattan U.S. Navy 6X30
3) Hensoldt Wetzlar Armée Française (Diagon) 8X30
4) Kershaw Vanguard 10X50
5) KOMZ (Kazan Optical-Mechanical Factory) 6X30
6) Lemaire 8X Lumineuse Stereoscopique 8X24
7) REL C.G.B. 37 M.A. 6X30
8) REL C.G.B. 37 M.A. 6X30 Graticule
9) SRPI Puteaux M.le. 56 8X30

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157624645550061/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4274599 - 12/27/10 03:02 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on October 14/10:
1) Barr & Stroud 10X CF.47, 10X49
2) BBT Krauss 312.26 MILLI 8X40
3) Bausch & Lomb Prism Marine U.S. Navy (experimental) 10X50
4) Hensoldt Wetzlar Marine-Dialyt 7X50 (with views of prism assembly)
5) J.D. Moeller Wedel Tourix 6X 6X22 (with views of prism assembly)
6) Kershaw Reliant 9X36 (Vanguard type internal focusing)
7) Kershaw Renown 7X30 (Vanguard type internal focusing)
8) Leitz Canada (ELCAN) 7X50B Civilian Model View of Schmidt-Pechan Prism Assembly
9) Nikon 7X35E CF
10) Spindler & Hoyer Gottinga 8X Modell B, 8X24
11) Warner & Swasey Prism Binocular Power 6 6X20.5

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157625321762320/detail/
The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

And my wishes for a healthy and happy New Year to the members of this forum.

Edited by FrankL (12/27/10 07:58 PM)


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planetmalc
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4283681 - 12/31/10 09:51 PM

FrankL,

According to Kershaw's 1952 binocular catalogue, only the Vanguard 7 x 50, 10 x 50 and 12 x 50, plus the Renown 7 x 30 and Reliant 9 x 36, had internal focussing.

Stated FOV (at 1000ft, for all models, in the order shown above) were:-
129ft, 122ft, 111ft, 163ft, 125ft

Stated 'Light Transmitting Power':-
90%, 84%, 84%, 82%, 82%

No weights were given for the Vanguard series, but the Renown was 20oz and the Reliant was 22oz. Wallace Heaton, the photographic retailer, sold all the Vanguard models and gave their weight as 42oz.

There were no prices in the 1952 Kershaw catalogue, but in the 1955/56 edition of the Wallace Heaton Blue Book, prices for the Vanguard series were:-
£44 0s 8d, £47 0s 8d, £48 0s 8d, for the 7x, 10x and 12x respectively.


Malc


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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: planetmalc]
      #4284157 - 01/01/11 06:40 AM

I would love to see the Kershaw catalogue Malc

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: planetmalc]
      #4284361 - 01/01/11 10:03 AM

Malc,
Thank you very much for this information. It is much appreciated, and my descriptions of binoculars will be revised accordingly.
Best wishes for a wonderful New Year to you and other members of this forum.
Frank


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planetmalc
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4291171 - 01/04/11 12:36 PM

FrankL,

Thank you for your kind wishes; the same to you and to the other forum members.


Simon,

I'm not yet geared up to take pics of the 1952 Kershaw catalogue, but I can certainly tell you what was in it.

Monarch 12 x 40 and 10 x 40; Olympic 8 x 30; Newmarket 7 x 21; and Portland 6 x 30. All are ZCF Porro 1's, apart from the Newmarket which is a reverse Porro.

FOV (at 1000ft, in the order shown above):-
108, 100, 154, 130, 150

'Light transmitting power':-
82%, 82%, 82%, 82%, 83%

Weight:-
28.5oz, 28.5oz, 18oz, 10.5oz, 18oz


They also marketed monocular versions of the Monarch 12 x 40 and 10 x 40; Olympic 8 x 30; and Portland 6 x 30.


The Sportsman spectacle binocular is there, but annoyingly there is no data for it.


Other pages are given over to magnifiers (desk, stand and pocket); the 'King Penguin' roll-film camera; and the model 250 filmstrip and slide projector.


Malc


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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: planetmalc]
      #4291240 - 01/04/11 01:09 PM

Thanks Malc thats great.

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #4439848 - 03/10/11 12:48 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on December 27, 2010:

1) BBT Krauss France M/50 (Danish Army/Airforce) 7X50
2) Hensoldt Wetzlar Nacht-Dialyt 8X56
3) Kershaw Monarch Ten 10X40
4) Lemaire Paris Azur 8X30
5) REL C.G.B. 37 M.A. 6X30 (pictures of case being used to store Bren light machine gun reflector sight)
6) S.P.J.P. (Société Parisienne Jumelles à Prismes) 7X 7X23 (with picture of disassembled linear movement ocular unit)
7) Taylor-Hobson Bino Prism No. 2 Mk III 6X30
8) Carl Zeiss Jena Delactis 8X40
9) Carl Zeiss (Oberkochen) 8X30

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture. To date, 42 REL 7X50 binoculars have been catalogued of which 9 are BOP filter modified.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157625596577485/detail/

The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4579514 - 05/13/11 01:34 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on March 10, 2011:

1) BBT Krauss 312.10 MILLI 7X50
2) Bell & Howell M19 7X50
3) Leitz beh Kriegsmarine (type II) 7X50 (w/case, filters, rubber eyecups)
4) Ross Stepmab 9X35
5) Ross Stepnac 6X30
6) Ross Stepnite 7X50
7) Spencer Lens Company U.S. NAVY BU.SHIPS MARK 30 MOD 0 7X50
8) SRPI Puteaux 8X24 (Finnish Army, Porro II)

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture. To date, 46 REL 7X50 binoculars have been catalogued of which 9 are BOP filter modified.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157626312188522/detail/

The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

Edited by FrankL (05/13/11 01:42 PM)


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marcelof
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Reged: 05/24/10

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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4580422 - 05/13/11 09:41 PM

Wonderful collection!!!! Of the hightest level

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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: marcelof]
      #4723103 - 07/31/11 04:32 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on May 13, 2011:

1) Fujinon M24 7X28
2) Hensoldt Wetzlar bmj Dienstglas 7X56
3) Hensoldt Wetzlar Sport-Dialyt 8X30
4) Kershaw Olympic 8X30
5) SarD BU.AERO U.S. NAVY MARK 43 6x42
6) Swarovski Habicht SLC 8X30WB (Mark III)
7) Wollensak Optical Company, U.S. Army Binocular M5 6X30
8) Carl Zeiss London, Binocular Prismatic No. 3 Mark I 6X24
9) Zeiss West Germany Dialyt 8X56B

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture. To date, 51 REL 7X50 binoculars have been catalogued of which 9 are BOP filter modified.

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157626901417520/detail/

The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4723192 - 07/31/11 05:19 PM

Hello FrankL,

That SARD is a real find, possibly the most desired American binocular. The paint seems to be lost easily, but those huge prisms to accommodate a wide field of view make for an impressive binocular.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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Simon S
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Pinewood]
      #4724124 - 08/01/11 06:43 AM

Quote:

Hello FrankL,

That SARD is a real find, possibly the most desired American binocular. The paint seems to be lost easily, but those huge prisms to accommodate a wide field of view make for an impressive binocular.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood



It's not fair
I really need to look through a pair just to see what the fuss is all about.


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Simon S]
      #4724965 - 08/01/11 03:21 PM

These binoculars are at their very best when viewing a panoramic scene such as a seascape, lakeshore or mountain range. I don't think there is any currently made binocular that comes close to this sort of wide-angle view. They are at their very worst if you try to tote them around your neck for any period of time.

Edited by FrankL (08/01/11 03:22 PM)


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FrankL
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Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4913006 - 11/12/11 11:51 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on July 31, 2011:

1) Emil Busch cxn D.F. 10x80 45 degrees (flak glass)
2) Hensoldt Wetzlar Dialyt 10X50
3) Japanese WW II Naval 7X50 (Manufacturer is “NLK”)
4) Leitz beh Kriegsmarine (type iii - rubber armoured) 7X50
5) Leitz Canada (ELCAN) 7X50 Military Model
6) Leitz Wetzlar Binuxit 8X30
7) NIFE Stockholm 7X50
8) San Giorgio Genova-Sestri ESA 6X30
9) Zeiss West Germany 7X50 B/GA T*

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture. To date, 77 REL 7X50 binoculars have been catalogued of which 9 are BOP filter modified. This database can be viewed here:
http://home.europa.com/~telscope/temp/REL.7x50.Lagorio.pdf

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157627510112204/detail/

The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/

Edited by FrankL (11/12/11 11:53 PM)


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Pinewood
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Reged: 12/07/04

Loc: 40.77638º N 73.982652 W
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4914172 - 11/13/11 04:41 PM

Hello Fred,

I posted this for you on another forum:

You are requesting quite a bit, so I will write only a little about the Binuxit. It was produced from 1927 to 1962. Post WWII models, serial numbers above about 480000, were coated. Some of the older ones exhibited a rather warm colouring, due to aging of the Canadian balsam. I have an example from 1952, which shows this. I have seen one a few years older, which did not.

I will write, but not from personal experience, that the flak glasses have a strong following among people who enjoy star fields and other celestial sights which do not require much magnification. I think that all, certainly most, flak glasses were uncoated.

Happy collecting,
Arthur Pinewood


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Pinewood]
      #4914656 - 11/13/11 10:23 PM

Hello Arthur,

You're correct that most but not all 10X80 flak glasses were uncoated. A few of the late war ones made by Busch (cxn) had coated optics (Fan Tao has a picture of one on his website), and according to Rohan the ones made by Leitz (beh) over serial number 46,000 were also coated and marked with a T. This flak glass is really fun to use for terrestrial as well as astronomic viewing. I find it has an unusually bright image for uncoated optics probably in part because of a relatively low number of light reflecting surfaces (I also removed the clear filters for this purpose).

My Binuxit for a binocular with single layer MgF2 coatings gives an extremely bright and color neutral image, one of the best in collection for a binocular of this type. It is quite a bit better the the Zeiss Oberkochen 8X30 and even just a little better than the Kershaw Olympic 8X30 which before acquiring the Binuxit had the brightest and best color of the 8X30's. My Binuxit's serial number is 583563 which I think places it in the later 50's or very early 60's.

Frank


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Kaelin
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Reged: 11/16/09

Loc: Midwest Great Lakes
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: FrankL]
      #4928791 - 11/21/11 11:34 PM

Stupendous collection!

I'm partial to Kershaw models. I have a 1941 Kershaw prism bino (No. 2 MKII, O.S. 108-MA), 6 x 30, from Leeds Optical. They came with what appears to be an original, hard leather case.

I gather they were common issue to British soldiers; they're tough little binos and in great shape.


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FrankL
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Reged: 07/30/09

Loc: Winnipeg, Manitoba Canada
Re: Vintage Binocular Collection new [Re: Kaelin]
      #5101328 - 03/02/12 03:52 PM

Additions to Vintage Binocular Collection

The following have been added to my collection since the last posting on November 12, 2011:

1) Bausch & Lomb (Rochester made) Zephyr 7X35
2) Emil Busch cxn Dienstglas 6X30
3) Goerz Trieder Binocle "Pernox" 6X30
4) Kern AARAU Focalpin 10 10X60
5) Kern AARAU Pizar 8X30 AR
6) Ross Stepmur 10X50
7) Carl Zeiss Jena blc U-Boat 3rd model 7X50
8) Zeiss West Germany Dialyt 7X42 B/GA T*P ClassiC
9) Zeiss 10X56B T*P* Design Selection “Night Owl”

I would appreciate any comments, further information or corrections the members of this forum could provide about these binoculars and my descriptions of them.

Also, I am researching the BOP filter conversion of the Canadian 7X50 REL binocular and REL 7X50's in general. If a member has any 7X50 REL binoculars or a BOP converted one, I would be most interested in its details such as model #, year of manufacture, number of dry air ports, serial number, presence of coated lenses, presence of yellow Admiralty arrows, weight, and any other information about its history and manufacture. To date, 93 REL 7X50 binoculars have been catalogued of which 11 are BOP filter modified. This database can be viewed here: http://home.europa.com/~telscope/temp/REL.7x50.Lagorio.pdf .

Once again, thanks to members of this and other forums who have provided new information about the binoculars in the collection.

The new binoculars can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157628340769179/detail/

The entire collection including additions can be viewed at:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/binocwpg/sets/72157623234405689/detail/


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