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stbehastx
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Stacy]
      #5593451 - 12/28/12 10:24 PM

I recently bought a pair of 15x70 Skymasters off Amazon, I figured if anything was out of whack they'd be easy enough to return. So far I'm very pleased with the quality of my binoculars.
I can't speak to overall quality of the manufacturing process because I only ordered one not in bulk (hundreds of pairs at least), which to me would seem to really be the best way to figure out the quality of the overall product. That is unless someone here has experience with the production line that Celestron uses for their Skymasters. They made it to my rock in the Pacific just fine without super premium shipping either...just my experience.


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BillC
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: stbehastx]
      #5593470 - 12/28/12 10:37 PM

" . . . with the production line that Celestron uses for their Skymasters."

Sadly so, but it's safe to say that Celestron makes EXACTLY as many binoculars each year as Swift, Bushnell, Tasco, Meade, Adlerblick, Jason, Simmons, Leupold, Vortex, Burris, and all the other American importers . . . NONE!

Thus, more important than the name on the sides or backplates, is the customer service of the importer.

Just a thought.

BillC


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stbehastx
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BillC]
      #5593682 - 12/29/12 01:02 AM

That's what I was implying sorry for any confusion. I was merely trying to say that because I (and I'm assuming many others) buy only a relatively small number of binoculars when compared with the production annually of whomever actually makes them; It is tough to tell exactly what the overall production quality is from such a small sample size. My advice still remains to buy from somewhere with a more liberal return policy that way you may return them if they fall short of your expectations, it's worked for me thus far...again just my experiance

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BillC
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: stbehastx]
      #5594016 - 12/29/12 09:49 AM

Bingo!

BillC


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txmnjim
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BillC]
      #5595310 - 12/29/12 11:19 PM

i decided to start saving my money for a pair of Fuji's

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BillC
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: txmnjim]
      #5595341 - 12/29/12 11:42 PM

MTR (C with a compass)
FMTR (C with a compass)

are considered Fujinons. Who actually makes them, I don't know.

The ARs are Kamatech or Katsuma.

The rest is a *BLEEP* shoot.

BillC


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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BillC]
      #5601243 - 01/02/13 01:15 PM

I picked up a pair of Fuji 12x60,s when E.O. had them on clearance, heavy but oh so nice, again no indication of who makes them but at the bang for the buck that I got I don,t really care,DA.

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BobinKy
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Binojunky]
      #5601277 - 01/02/13 01:40 PM


Yep! The Fujinon HB 12x60 from E.O. was a great buy--if you received a model with good colimination. Luckily, I did and it is a great bino for a backpack hike in the mountains. But a bit heavy to dangle around the neck.


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BillC
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Binojunky]
      #5601279 - 01/02/13 01:41 PM

That's a mature way of thinking. Can you say that here?

Abso-darn-lutely! Some people get WAY too hung up on a name, not considering--or knowing--that NAME buys 90% of its products from whomever . . . like every other company!

BillC


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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BillC]
      #5635421 - 01/21/13 05:40 PM

Well, I bought the Celestron 15x70 binocs today from Amazon. Hope they're collimated. If not I'll try collimating them myself using one of threads I've seen around. If I can't, I'll return 'em. Since I'm a Prime member, they were only $56 with 2 day shipping. Figure it was worth the gamble.

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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Photobud]
      #5635578 - 01/21/13 07:25 PM

Quote:

Since I'm a Prime member, they were only $56 with 2 day shipping. Figure it was worth the gamble.




Bud,

2nd day air just might keep them from taking a beating.

Ground transportation is pretty hard on cheap binoculars.

Stan


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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #5635595 - 01/21/13 07:32 PM

Stan...

Thanks for that suggestion on the shipping.


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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #5635603 - 01/21/13 07:35 PM

Thanks, Stan. I'll let everyone know how it turns out.
Quote:

Quote:

Since I'm a Prime member, they were only $56 with 2 day shipping. Figure it was worth the gamble.




Bud,

2nd day air just might keep them from taking a beating.

Ground transportation is pretty hard on cheap binoculars.

Stan




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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BobinKy]
      #5635692 - 01/21/13 08:54 PM

Quote:

Stan...

Thanks for that suggestion on the shipping.




Bob,

In the past I have had as many of my binoculars sent to me via USPS Priority Mail as I could afford.

Certain boxes that I have received, that were sent to me via Ground Transportation, looked like they had been drop kicked through the goal posts.

One, or two, boxes had gaping holes in them; fortunately one was only a tripod.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZN28PNPP7A

Stan

Edited by hallelujah (01/21/13 08:56 PM)


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BillC
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: hallelujah]
      #5635931 - 01/21/13 11:14 PM

I bought the last 9-inch Buchroeder Maksutov that Tom Dobbins had; UPS delivered it in 5,000 pieces. The carton still had the forklift holes in it.

BillC


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Photobud
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: BillC]
      #5637363 - 01/22/13 05:12 PM

This was rather amazing! Got the binocs today in only 24 hours. Perfectly collimated (at least to my old eyes). They were in the Celestron box which was bubble wrapped in a two ply, soft cardboard box which had bubble wrap around it , inside a standard Amazon box with plastic air bags. Good job, Amazon!

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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Photobud]
      #5637391 - 01/22/13 05:24 PM

That's great! Perhaps there is hope for the 20x80s I just ordered...

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KennyJ
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Jarrod]
      #5637440 - 01/22/13 05:50 PM

A useful, simple way to double check for collimation by eyes alone is to take the bino out on a clear night when a known planet is visible, focus the planet through one side as sharply as possible, then deliberately DEfocus the other.

Check if the focused tiny sphere of the planet appears as one with the central fuzzy disc of the DEfocused side.

If it appears slightly or even more than slightly off-centre,then the daytime test was misleading, and continual use without adjustment may well result in suffering from headaches as well as frustrating disappointment.

Good luck!

Kenny


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Photobud
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: KennyJ]
      #5637458 - 01/22/13 05:57 PM

Thanks for the tip,Kenny. I'll try it tonight.

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KennyJ
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Re: Celstron Vs Orion Binocs? new [Re: Photobud]
      #5637478 - 01/22/13 06:09 PM

Very good,Pho!

You could even do a quick test hand-holding the binos,but mounted would be even better for you,I'm sure.

Kenny


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