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Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | (show all) Starman1 Vendor (EyepiecesEtc.com) Reged: 06/24/03 Loc: Los Angeles Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2326521 - 04/14/08 02:26 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Post Extras:       Zdenek newbie Reged: 09/27/06 Loc: Czech Republic Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Starman1]       #2328661 - 04/15/08 12:10 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Very nice!!! I find some minor faults. Why is beside the greek description of delta CEP the "DELCEP"? Similar beta LYR. There is "BET" and "BETLYR", the greek description is missing. It is not critical but I find it a little bit "redundant". I did not inspect all charts but I think there will be more of them. Any idea how to remove it in the 3rd edition? I miss Milky Way borders from the 1st edition. I think it was useful in the A and B set. Not in the C set. Post Extras:       Rumba member Reged: 09/08/04 Loc: Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Zdenek]       #2328771 - 04/15/08 12:46 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   JR, thank you again and congratulations for that impressive atlas. I take off my hat to you. Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Zdenek]       #2328880 - 04/15/08 01:22 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi Zdenek and Rumba, Those labels correspond, as you can imagine, to bright variable stars having a Bayer denomination instead of a regular variable name. There are so few stars in this category that I thought that it wasn't worth eliminating them. I had to apologize: I had no time in the weekend to fix this minor problem. To myself I thought that it could be even positive since it was calling our atention to the special nature of the star. DEL CEP and BET LYR is the way the star name is codified in the database. It is easy to fix, but now I musn't. In a hopefully new release (maybe next year, but not sure) I will do it. Now, with the files placed for downloading, I must not alter them except if there is a really important reason. I decided to preserve galactic equator but remove Milky Way isolines (present in the first release) because the charts looked more clean in this way. I was using the charts during the precedent year with the isolines and I found them scarcely useful in practice, a cosmetic feature (in contrast with the galactic equator and galactic longitude). Well, this was just one of the decissions (wrong or right) that I had to take during the design. Again, I will consider this for a hopefully new edition. I have updated (too fast and not perfect, but at least is usable) the regular download page . You can use it if you wish. I hope to link the letter edition next friday. Thanks to everybody for the comments and encouraging messages. If you find any mistake, please report it to me to enhance the atlas. Yesterday evening I printed my field edition (sets A and B, placed in a folder with plastic protective sleeves), and I hope to use it in the next days (well, nights...; but also days: I like to contemplate it!!!) Edited by jr_ (04/15/08 01:42 PM) Post Extras:       Zdenek newbie Reged: 09/27/06 Loc: Czech Republic Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2329359 - 04/15/08 04:23 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Well, you threw light upon it and I can find anything to improve your great work. Post Extras:       Rumba member Reged: 09/08/04 Loc: Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Zdenek]       #2329435 - 04/15/08 04:55 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I went to the local copy center and had the first version of the TriAtlas printed (A,B and parts of C) and had a very professional-looking wirebound atlas made out of it. I chose not to use a clear plastic pockets notebook because it somewhat hinders visibility of the small details of the atlas, and it's also bulkier. I've never had trouble with damp or dew. The TriAtlas has been a great help for deep-sky hunting. Post Extras:       NeoDinian Experienced Postmaster Reged: 10/05/05 Loc: Rockford Illinois Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Rumba]       #2330162 - 04/15/08 10:40 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Quote: I went to the local copy center and had the first version of the TriAtlas printed (A,B and parts of C) and had a very professional-looking wirebound atlas made out of it. And out of curiosity, what did that cost? Post Extras:       cheekygeek member Reged: 12/24/07 Loc: Kearney, NE Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: NeoDinian]       #2330920 - 04/16/08 09:26 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I agree with the comment above, that the beauty of this is ability to print out "disposable" pages to use at the telescope. I've got 4 little magnets on my metal tube (Orion XT8) so I can tack sheets right next to the eyepiece. Between that and my no-hands red head light, I should be able to make checks without losing a lot of "drift" time on the dob. (I'm a newbie, so just learning how to observe at the scope). I also don't see any real need to bind them all together. I plan on using the A & B sets as a Field Atlas and using the C set separately. Also off-topic: I'd like to print an acetate transparency with circles of field sizes that match my eyepieces. Naturally, I would need separate acetate transparencies for A, B and C sets. Can anyone give me an idea of how I might go about doing that? Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: cheekygeek]       #2331280 - 04/16/08 12:15 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I have my copy (A and B sets) in a folder with a similar idea: not only to prevent the pages from dew effects and accidental tearing, but also to have access to the charts and replace them easily. I can mark the charts with the objects I want to see and use it without any caution, since later I can always print them again to have the atlas in perfect state. I tried several configurations (binded in a book, wired and in folders), and for my the latter is the most satisfactory storage system. There is no noticeable loss of detail, at least in the folder I am using. Naturally, this system also allows removing any chart and placing it close to the eye in the telescope tube with magnets (or any other system). Well, having a flexible atlas that can be adapted to our tastes, needs or observing way is quite good, better than being constrained by a rigid, conventional book!!! (BRW, the download page is already updated) Edited by jr_ (04/18/08 03:58 AM) Post Extras:       PEterW professor emeritus Reged: 01/02/06 Loc: SW London, UK Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2341730 - 04/21/08 07:17 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Wow. You triumph again! For the 1st edition you made a colour version of the A atlas, are you planning on doing the same for the 2nd edition, or are there reasons for not making one? Thanks again! PEterW Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: PEterW]       #2342178 - 04/21/08 12:37 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Hi Peter, At the moment I am planning two other modified versions, but all of them in BW. One of them is a set of charts in large format (A3). The other is a set equivalent to the C-charts but with less charts and detail (around 200-250). Printing in color is not too practical, in my opinion. When the objective is preparing field charts, the color maps are not very competitive. I have the A and B sets printed with a laser colour printer, but after using them in the night, I prefer BW versions. But this is a matter of taste. By the way, the 8x15 charts of sets A, B and C are already uploaded. I will give the links for downloading in short. Edited by jr_ (04/21/08 12:39 PM) Post Extras:       PEterW professor emeritus Reged: 01/02/06 Loc: SW London, UK Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2342239 - 04/21/08 01:02 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I've downloaded them all now... just case of finding a convenient way to get them all printer out! We are all grateful for your hard work over the years on this one! Cheers PEterW PS How can I make the faintest stars more visible, I am having trouble spotting them.... could you make them a TINY bit bigger? Edited by PEterW (04/21/08 05:04 PM) Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: PEterW]       #2344295 - 04/22/08 11:53 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   The faintest stars are at the limit of the printer capability. If I use enhaced resolution mode at 1200 dpi, I get them printed (HP LaserJet 1022). After finishing the three sets, I placed an offset value to modify slightly the size of the faintest stars, but this is new and will be applied to both the intermediate B-C and the panoramic sets I talked about. I have been comparing charts with and without the last level, and I think I nearly prefer slightly less stars to reduce the crowding a bit. The scale of the charts hardly admit more stars, except if they are very small. Edited by jr_ (04/22/08 12:05 PM) Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2346326 - 04/23/08 10:14 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Darren (CheekyGeek) has kindly given some storage space to place the 8x11" paper edition of the triatlas. Many thanks!!!! The links to download the files are these (the server is in the USA): Key charts of the three sets: http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/Triatlas-USA-A_Index.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/Triatlas-USA-B_Index.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/Triatlas-USA-C_Index.pdf PDF file for the set A: http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_A/Triatlas-USA-A.pdf PDF files for the set B: http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_B/Triatlas-USA-B01-36.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_B/Triatlas-USA-B37-72.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_B/Triatlas-USA-B73-107.pdf PDF files for the set C: http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C001-030.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C031-060.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C061-090.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C091-120.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C121-150.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C151-180.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C181-210.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C211-240.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C241-270.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C271-300.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C301-330.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C311-360.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C361-390.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C391-420.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C421-450.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C451-480.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C481-510.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C511-540.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/SECTION_C/Triatlas-USA-C541-571.pdf The European edition (A4) can be grabbed from: http://www.uv.es/jrtorres/triatlas.html I hope to place there the next two complementary editions (panoramic and intermediate B-C sets, which are still under development) Edited by jr_ (04/23/08 10:20 AM) Post Extras:       ~Steph~ Texas Wildflower Reged: 06/11/05 Loc: North Texas Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2346385 - 04/23/08 10:49 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Thank you, Jose, and thank you, Darren! Post Extras:       Scott Regener Pooh-Bah Reged: 03/31/06 Loc: SE Minnesota Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: ~Steph~]       #2350164 - 04/24/08 09:29 PM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I'm in the process of printing the US version and so far, it looks pretty good to me. It won't be my first atlas I grab, as that will remain S&T Pocket Star Atlas (which perfectly matches the stars I can see in my binoculars or finder in my urban skies) but when I need to "drill down" for the deeper stuff, it will easily be my new favorite. My one complaint is that the index page for the A section is way too busy. It's hard to make out constellation outlines with all those stars plotted in there. The B index looks better, but still maybe a touch busy. In my opinion, an index should give you a general idea and not plot too many stars - just constellation outlines would work a lot better. I can't imagine I'll get much use out of the A index with a red light. Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Scott Regener]       #2350664 - 04/25/08 04:49 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   OK, Here are new indexes with less stars, in 8x11" paper format for sets A and B (temporary links: I will replace the old files with these new ones when I can get connection with the server): keychart A in letter page format keychart B in letter page format Edited by jr_ (04/25/08 09:06 AM) Post Extras:       Scott Regener Pooh-Bah Reged: 03/31/06 Loc: SE Minnesota Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: jr_]       #2350748 - 04/25/08 07:08 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   Perfect! Thanks a million! Post Extras:       o1d_dude o1der than dirt Reged: 10/03/07 Loc: The Wolfpack Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: Scott Regener]       #2352652 - 04/26/08 03:36 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I think we all owe you one of these, JR. Many thanks for taking our requests and making them real. Post Extras:       jr_ sage Reged: 07/28/03 Loc: Valencia, Spain Re: TriAtlas project (2nd. edition) - first proof [Re: o1d_dude]       #2359430 - 04/29/08 11:21 AM Edit   Reply   Quote Quick Reply   I have finished the first set of files of the complementary edition of 218 charts, intermediate between sets B and C, quite more convenient for print or photocopy than the huge C-set (less charts but still very powerful). These are the links (storage kindly offered by Darren -CheekyGeek-): http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z1_USA_001-030.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z2_USA_031-060.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z3_USA_061-090.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z4_USA_091-120.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z5_USA_121-150.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z6_USA_151-180.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z7_USA_181-210.pdf http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/TriAtlas_Z8_USA_211-218.pdf ...and the keychart: http://cgi.unk.edu/triatlas/VERSION_2_USA/CHARTS_Z_MAIN/KeyChart_Z_USA.pdf All the files in letter format (8x11"). I still have to finish one more set, that I hope to upload in some more days. Well, this is finally nearly complete... (Pd. Thanks for the beer, I needed it!!!) Edited by jr_ (04/30/08 08:07 AM) Post Extras:       Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | (show all)

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