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New Edition of Uranometria 2000
#5529971 - 11/20/12 12:00 PM
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Uranometria 2000 Deep Sky Atlas All Sky, Pole-to-Pole Edition in a single volume. Did I miss the announcement? Anyone seen it yet?
-Mark
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5530149 - 11/20/12 01:20 PM
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Came up top on a google search here...
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5530271 - 11/20/12 02:12 PM
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apparently it combines volume 1 and 2. Still looks interesting though
Edited by swalker (11/20/12 02:14 PM)
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5530475 - 11/20/12 03:45 PM
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Thanks for the heads up. It will eliminate the duplicate charts from +6 degrees to -6 degrees, and be a lot easier to use. It's a lot cheaper than the 2-volumes, too, so if there is a difference, I'll post it here.
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5531227 - 11/20/12 10:42 PM
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Don, You have one ordered?
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5531259 - 11/20/12 11:02 PM
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Yes.
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5531332 - 11/20/12 11:40 PM
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Oh boy, I hope this wasn't the book they were telling me about at NEAIC. I was informed of something more of a good read on modern deep sky but something still special for field use.
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5531551 - 11/21/12 05:53 AM
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Don, Glad to hear you have it ordered. I await your review.
Daniel, Why no love for Uranomertri?. It is probably one of the best printed star atlas out there that is easily available.
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#5531634 - 11/21/12 07:55 AM
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The new atlas looks quite interesting. I like the detailed charts of selected areas of the sky. I have the two volumes of the origional Uranometria 2000.
Rich (RLTYS)
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5532092 - 11/21/12 11:51 AM
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Rich,
I don't have the original Uranometria 2000. Are the 29 detailed "close-up" charts a new addition to this edition?
-Mark
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#5532119 - 11/21/12 12:04 PM
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Daniel, Why no love for Uranomertri?. It is probably one of the best printed star atlas out there that is easily available.
Preston,
No worries there. I LOVE Uranometria. That Atlas saved me during detailed star locating through the eyepiece while searching for variable stars. After talking with the publisher though, they were talking about something similar to Burnham's.
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#5534345 - 11/22/12 07:20 PM
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apparently it combines volume 1 and 2. Still looks interesting though
Interesting indeed. Even though I am on the cusp of making SkySafari my primary atlas, I would likely spring for a new version. Something so satisfying about a cold rainy night, a comfy chair, hot coffee and cocoa, and a great atlas.
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#5534366 - 11/22/12 07:45 PM
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I use Sky Safari now but interestingly, using the charts from Uranometria are actually easier when comparing stars through the eyepiece. It's quite accurate.
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5535158 - 11/23/12 10:01 AM
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I still find that the direct light of a smartphone, tablet, or laptop is FAR more injurious to my night vision than the indirect light of a dim red LED flashlight on a printed page. Of course, that's not without difficulties, either, but it's a matter of degree.
In the event you are at a place where full dark adaptation is not possible, or the targets being viewed don't require it, then pretty much anything goes.
The proliferation of phones, tablets, and laptops at dark sky sites, though, is becoming quite annoying.
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#5535220 - 11/23/12 10:39 AM
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http://siriusastroproducts.com/products---red-eyes-computeriphonedslr-light-s...
Also, Alvin Huey uses a small PC with a black background and you can hardly see the screen when dimmed.
Also note that in my case dark adaptation isn't always important, since some variable and double stars don't require it. It depends on what you're observing. I actually still prefer the stars in the original Uranometria. They're plotted darker for better representation through the eyepiece.
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5535275 - 11/23/12 11:19 AM
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Daniel, I used a laptop in the field for 5 years. I used red mode in the program, turned the screen way down, and used both a piece of red plexiglass and smoke plexiglass in front of the screen. By the time I had the screen brightness low enough I didn't notice any modification of my night vision, it was too dark to read. Maybe my eyes are just sensitive to direct light? But I think it's about total photons. I removed one of the two LEDs from my Celestron red LED flashlight, and I find it annoyingly bright even when turned down all the way. Yet, I haven't found a dimmer light. Many people find the resolution of their eye gets really poor under low light. I agree with that, but I prefer to use a stronger pair of glasses instead of a brighter light.
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#5535768 - 11/23/12 03:48 PM
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The new atlas looks quite interesting. I like the detailed charts of selected areas of the sky. I have the two volumes of the origional Uranometria 2000.
Rich (RLTYS)
+2 same here. I do like the close up appendix maps.
Will not likely buy the combined version since I now also have the Mag 12 "Great Atlas of the Sky".
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Re: New Edition of Uranometria 2000
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#5536687 - 11/24/12 06:41 AM
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Was going to order, but then found out the postage cost to the UK !! :-O (about the cost of the book!)
I hope this will be available in the UK.
Edited by Kevin_C (11/24/12 06:42 AM)
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#5537699 - 11/24/12 07:04 PM
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Was going to order, but then found out the postage cost to the UK !! :-O (about the cost of the book!) I hope this will be available in the UK.
Great Atlas of the sky had o shiping cost but took over a month to get from Poland (book rate? or included in cost), and was much heavier than a single volume of Uranometria.
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#5537785 - 11/24/12 08:16 PM
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Yes, postage cost for a single item from Will-Bell is big for those of us overseas. A few years back I found the postage was not too bad if you ordered several volumes at once - cost per item was helpfully lower, as postage didn't rise at the same rate as the number of items. Of course you might only want the one item. 
The two-in-one appears to simply be a reprint of the former 2-volume 2nd edition - is this so? Though the sample page on-line has better star reproduction than my copy of 2nd edition, southern volume. In that, I found the stars were printed too small for use at night with a dim red light. So I didn't buy the northern volume.
I still have my copy of the 1st edition, both north and south, and use it often. Although the 2nd edition has the better arrangement of chart order, better find-the-constellation charts, etc, the 1st edition has more stars and they're not overwhelmed by hordes of faint galaxies. I'm sure the latter are desired by those with 20-inch Dobs and similar, but not all of us observe that way. So for those of us with more modest scopes and who aren't after the faintest galaxies, the first edition, despite its faults, can be more useful.
These days I supplement it with the Tri-Atlas, an excellent work - and print off enlarged sections of C charts if needed. A very nice supplement to Uranometria 1st-ed for a C9.25 and for chasing down star clusters and doubles and the not-too-dim fuzzies.
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