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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5602247 - 01/03/13 12:52 AM
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Please S&T, more inter-related articles.
And more cute daughters-in-law, whenever you can work it in.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5604382 - 01/04/13 09:32 AM
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Oh come on! Nothing accentuates whatever you're showing off better than a pretty girl. He's showing off his great observatory, and has this pretty daughter to make it look even better and to give it scale. He's undoubtedly very proud and fond of both. Where's the problem? If he just wanted attention, well, it worked very well. He could have had himself in the picture for scale; but isn't this better?
I swear, I've never understood why some people get so incensed about a pretty girl being in a picture.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5605278 - 01/04/13 05:43 PM
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Oh come on! Nothing accentuates whatever you're showing off better than a pretty girl. He's showing off his great observatory, and has this pretty daughter to make it look even better and to give it scale. He's undoubtedly very proud and fond of both. Where's the problem? If he just wanted attention, well, it worked very well. He could have had himself in the picture for scale; but isn't this better?
I swear, I've never understood why some people get so incensed about a pretty girl being in a picture.
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we will never expand the hobby as long as the magazines show only us old, fat, white men
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5606861 - 01/05/13 03:50 PM
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I'm not currently a subscriber to S&T but have been in the past. I switched to Astronomy a few years ago and am happy where I am.
After reading this thread I went to Barnes & Noble today, just to check out this controversial issue.
My comments:
1) I thought the Civil War sub story was very interesting and definitely had it's place in the magazine.
2) The astronomer's daughter-in-law that was in the one observatory image was in perfectly good taste. She was elegantly dressed and gave proper scale to the picture. I could see an issue if she was in a tube top and hot pants, but come on! Would you people that complained about this photo rather have an old white guy in the picture?
Anyway, I'm late to this party, but I had to add my two cents.
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Rick Woods
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5606888 - 01/05/13 04:07 PM
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The bottom line seems to be that S&T put it all together perfectly, as usual.
(I can just imagine what the author of the observatory article would think of all this ruckus about him putting his daughter in a picture!)
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5609277 - 01/06/13 09:38 PM
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There was another one on the sinking of the Titanic having to do with the moon and tides not long ago. As I recall that generated a bit of heat, too.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5609606 - 01/07/13 02:23 AM
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I enjoyed the "Civil War" article. Because i am not an American, some historical background information related with astronomy is ok.
The Secrets of the Nothern Lights i enjoyed even more. Great indepth article. Also nice that the subject is split up in two parts. The next month will be discribing Aurora photography.
To me,the Telescope Workshop series (Gary) is almost always a little to compressed. I think it would be nice if this series getting a more dominant role in the magazine.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5609651 - 01/07/13 05:29 AM
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This thread reminds me of the name of one of Shakespeare's plays - Much Ado about Nothing.
I enjoy the historical articles, and the observatory article in question is fine by me.
Each issue of S&T (or Astronomy or any magazine) has an article or two about something that I am not interested in, but there are plenty of other articles on things that I do enjoy.
Just my two cents.
Tom
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5609700 - 01/07/13 07:39 AM
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This thread reminds me of the name of one of Shakespeare's plays - Much Ado about Nothing.
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Just my two cents.
Tom
my 2 cents-many of our threads fit into this grouping
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5609921 - 01/07/13 10:47 AM
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This thread reminds me of the name of one of Shakespeare's plays - Much Ado about Nothing.
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Just my two cents.
Tom
my 2 cents-many of our threads fit into this grouping
edj
Another part of an old saying; "You can't please all the people all the time". 
As far as the young lady (a relative) in the observatory photo; would it have been mentioned, if she had been a handsome young man? Double standard here! 
S&T is an excellent magazine, and always has interesting articles that reach out to many.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5611766 - 01/08/13 11:17 AM
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I think the criticism reflects a too-narrow view of S&T.
I've subscribed for about 20 non-consecutive years total and read library issues back to 1960's when I discovered S&T in the 1970's. By the time I've thoroughly read all the feature articles not tied to a monthly sky calendar, each modern issue provides about 2-3 months of entertainment over hours of spare time, and some of the most enjoyable articles are the unexpected topics.
I like most of the articles about tides or moonlight, vs. Tarawa or Caesar in Britain or the Indianapolis or Mary Shelley's inspiration for Frankenstein. I especially liked the description several years ago of the Hawaiian astronomy center with a garden scaled and planted to represent the Milky Way. Some recent cosmology articles were very good. I miss E.C. Krupp's column as much as I miss gleanings for ATMs or Walter Scott Houston. To my personal, broader concept of astronomy, none of these were off topic.
S&T tries to cover all aspects of the hobby and usually succeeds. There are more narrowly focused, or more popularized, publications that don't get my subscription in favor of S&T.
I could make similar complaints about the pages in almost every issue describing new equipment far beyond my interest, but like the occasional historical article, the articles that I care about less are just a few pages out of many in each issue.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5611808 - 01/08/13 11:52 AM
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Jay Bird...
Very fascinating post.
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edwincjones
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5612497 - 01/08/13 06:46 PM
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hard to believe this is the 72 post on this thread
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5614607 - 01/09/13 10:23 PM
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Put me down as another who enjoyed the Hunley article. The astronomical conditions of the night are an interesting addition to a fascinating historical event. (Almost as fun as Dixon's gold coin. ) As far as the pretty lady on Pg.68, imagine the complaints if they'd used a haggard old codger like myself...
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615278 - 01/10/13 11:11 AM
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I thought the observatory article was the clunker of the issue. It came off as a puff piece and it didn't tell me anything. Had the editor pushed for a story about building the observatory OR using the unique scopes in it I think the article would have been good. Instead both of those topics were covered and with the space allowed neither was given the space to be developed. The picture of the girl only took space away for more words. As for how she was dressed, well I thought it was a little out of place for S&T, but she was dressed in reasonable taste.
As for the rest of the magazine, I thought it was outstanding all around. The article by Ken White was outstanding.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615353 - 01/10/13 11:49 AM
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But, without that picture (that included the young lady), we wouldn't have gotten that killer shot of those two big, awesome refractor setups!
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615578 - 01/10/13 01:48 PM
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Call me biased, but I'm partial to the video article by uncle Rod...
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615699 - 01/10/13 03:04 PM
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According to EDJ, our official counter, we are now up to 76 posts in this thread! This is intellectual post Number 77!
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615919 - 01/10/13 05:23 PM
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I thought the observatory article was the clunker of the issue.
I won't argue one way or another on that, but looking at that setup (scopes only)gave me the drools.
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The picture of the girl only took space away for more words.
Ya a mannequin would have worked just as well.
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Re: New S + T for Feb 2013 goes off topic
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#5615935 - 01/10/13 05:40 PM
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Ya a mannequin would have worked just as well.
Eric
Mannequins are harder to come by than daughters-in-law.
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