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Brian Albin
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Magazine Recommendations?
      #5602255 - 01/03/13 01:08 AM

Fred Price in his book: “The Planet Observer’s Handbook” lists as “further reading” various articles from the following magazines:
The Strolling Astronomer, Sky & Telescope, The Observatory, Astronomical Journal, Astronomy, Astrograph, Astronomy Now, Sidereal Messenger, Eos, Mercury, Icarus.

New Scientist, Natural History, Science, Nature, Scientific American, Inventions & Technology


I hope to learn which one or possibly two I ought to buy a subscription to. Also from which titles I ought to try to find back issues on the used market.
Anything you can tell me about any of these would be helpful.
I listed that second group separately because their interest is general science. Could you tell me how much Astronomy is covered in any of them with which you have familiarity?

I think the magazine I want is: not childish, is not a trade journal, i.e. is not professional talk of the business of the astronomy community. I want the one that is accessible science; is entertainment for the grownup mind.

Thank You


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5602264 - 01/03/13 01:18 AM

Well, S&T is my personal choice. I looked into a subscription to Icarus, but it was something like $175/year, which is out of my league for a magazine.
I used to take Astronomy, but dropped it several years back. I've bought a few issues since then, though, and it has definitely gotten better.

Articles from many of those journals are available on the internet, if you look around. You have to pay for Icarus articles unless you have connections; but for many of the others, if you Google on the exact article name, you can find a lot of stuff free for downloading. I've gotten several books full of papers on Mars that way.


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Brian Albin
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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5602304 - 01/03/13 02:21 AM

Thanks Rick!

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5602473 - 01/03/13 08:02 AM

Quote:



I think the magazine I want is: not childish, is not a trade journal, i.e. is not professional talk of the business of the astronomy community. I want the one that is accessible science; is entertainment for the grownup mind.

Thank You




I think that either S&T or Astronomy would best meet your needs.
I would suggest getting one of each from your local newsstand and compare the two.

S&T is more popular here but Astronomy is close.
Astronomy can, at times, be a little more "childish"
neither are perfect.

edj


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Brian Albin
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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: edwincjones]
      #5602504 - 01/03/13 08:27 AM

Thank you, Ed.

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5602592 - 01/03/13 09:28 AM

I have subscribed to several astronomy magazines but I always return to S&T, which I'm currently subscribed to. Good magazine... Tony

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: CelestronDaddy]
      #5602760 - 01/03/13 11:15 AM

I subscribe to both Astronomy and S&T; if I had to choose, it'd be S&T.

Bill


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5603257 - 01/03/13 03:41 PM

I'm not familiar with all of them or if they are all still being published.

Astronomy. S&T, astronomy now are the general publications. The others tend to be more specialized. Kind of depends on what you want. The Strolling Astronomer is specifically about the planets.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5603404 - 01/03/13 05:27 PM

I picked up a S&T Magazine at a bookshop last week and was shocked at the $8.99 price. I promptly but it back. Is that the normal price now days? Last I remember your average magazine was around $5. It has been a while though........

Edited by Wmacky (01/03/13 08:48 PM)


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5603407 - 01/03/13 05:30 PM

What were you buying and where? It wasn't an issue of Sky and Telescope or you weren't in the USA. S&T is still a bargain at $5.99...

Edited by rmollise (01/03/13 05:32 PM)


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5603510 - 01/03/13 06:49 PM

Quote:

I picked up a S&T Magazine at a bookshop last week and was shocked to the the $8.99 price. I promptly but it back. Is that the normal price now days? Last I remember your average magazine was around $5. It has been a while though........



I think that is probably for a special addition and not the regular monthly version.... Tony


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: CelestronDaddy]
      #5603519 - 01/03/13 06:55 PM

the best way is to get a year of S&T and Astronomy and compare,
usually one is better than the other, but varies month to month

in the past I thought S&T was better, but Astronomy is catching up
like many others, I continue to get S&T-have since 1997

edj


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5603678 - 01/03/13 08:47 PM

Quote:

What were you buying and where? It wasn't an issue of Sky and Telescope or you weren't in the USA. S&T is still a bargain at $5.99...




Yeah for $5.99, I'd be reading it right now, so that's good news! It was Sky and Telescope, and it was at a Books a Million in the US of A. Had to be some kinda of year end edition I guess. I thought I was teleported to 2047 for a moment!

Edited by Wmacky (01/03/13 08:57 PM)


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5603974 - 01/04/13 01:05 AM

Was there a DVD included, or some extra like that?

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Alvan Clark]
      #5604017 - 01/04/13 02:32 AM

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The Strolling Astronomer is specifically about the planets.




Solar System interests me more than Deep Space. So I am glad to learn about Strolling Astronomer.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5604198 - 01/04/13 07:49 AM

Quote:

I picked up a S&T Magazine at a bookshop last week and was shocked at the $8.99 price. I promptly but it back. Is that the normal price now days? Last I remember your average magazine was around $5. It has been a while though........




S&T is $5.99 on the newsstand. You must be referring to Skywatch, our annual publication which sells for $8.99.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5604200 - 01/04/13 07:51 AM

Quote:

Quote:

The Strolling Astronomer is specifically about the planets.




Solar System interests me more than Deep Space. So I am glad to learn about Strolling Astronomer.




need to join the ALPO* to get-also comes in digital

edj

* a good organization


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: edwincjones]
      #5604709 - 01/04/13 12:40 PM

I have a couple of ALPO Strolling Astronomers that covered the SL9 impacts. I would want to see what the current offering looked like before subscribing/joining. The references to publishing cloud features on Uranus in more current issues gives me pause. I don't doubt people think they are seeing the features, but my hunch it is the same optical/eye trick that caused Lowell his canals on Mars.

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: swalker]
      #5604807 - 01/04/13 01:31 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I picked up a S&T Magazine at a bookshop last week and was shocked at the $8.99 price. I promptly but it back. Is that the normal price now days? Last I remember your average magazine was around $5. It has been a while though........




S&T is $5.99 on the newsstand. You must be referring to Skywatch, our annual publication which sells for $8.99.




That had to be it! I'll run by after work and see if I can locate the monthly issue. Heck, I might as well get the year end publication while there.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5604821 - 01/04/13 01:36 PM

Quote:

I have a couple of ALPO Strolling Astronomers that covered the SL9 impacts. I would want to see what the current offering looked like before subscribing/joining. The references to publishing cloud features on Uranus in more current issues gives me pause. I don't doubt people think they are seeing the features, but my hunch it is the same optical/eye trick that caused Lowell his canals on Mars.




Can of Worms alert!


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5604873 - 01/04/13 02:01 PM

Quote:

I have a couple of ALPO Strolling Astronomers that covered the SL9 impacts. I would want to see what the current offering looked like before subscribing/joining. The references to publishing cloud features on Uranus in more current issues gives me pause. I don't doubt people think they are seeing the features, but my hunch it is the same optical/eye trick that caused Lowell his canals on Mars.




Who knows? I belive Steve O'Meara verified he's seen some atmospheric features, so it can be done. However most of what I've seen otherwise refers to imagery with high frame rate cameras, which I have no doubt can occasionally pick up something.

Anyhoo, The Strolling Astronomer is well done, but it is for very specialized interests--folks who are truly serious about the Solar System.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5604910 - 01/04/13 02:24 PM

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Who knows? I belive Steve O'Meara verified he's seen some atmospheric features, so it can be done.




Yeah - it's pretty hard to refute his observations when he used them to calculate the correct rotation period for Uranus to within minutes, well before Voyager arrived.
Action talks, and everything else walks.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5605071 - 01/04/13 03:53 PM

Quote:

Quote:

I have a couple of ALPO Strolling Astronomers that covered the SL9 impacts. I would want to see what the current offering looked like before subscribing/joining. The references to publishing cloud features on Uranus in more current issues gives me pause. I don't doubt people think they are seeing the features, but my hunch it is the same optical/eye trick that caused Lowell his canals on Mars.




Who knows? I belive Steve O'Meara verified he's seen some atmospheric features, so it can be done. However most of what I've seen otherwise refers to imagery with high frame rate cameras, which I have no doubt can occasionally pick up something.

Anyhoo, The Strolling Astronomer is well done, but it is for very specialized interests--folks who are truly serious about the Solar System.




True, and I don't know enough about CCD cameras to know what they are truly capable of with the outer planets.

Regarding the sketches, my theory has been that what is being seen is the eye trying to provide a pattern to the bland disk and limb darkening effect. Again it is just my theory on it. But that would be similar to what Lowell had with his canals. His eye was trying to link up the dark and lighter areas of the Martian disk in his scope.

Again just my theory. I could be wrong and I would like to be proven wrong too. The idea of seeing features on Uranus really interests me.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5605121 - 01/04/13 04:11 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Who knows? I belive Steve O'Meara verified he's seen some atmospheric features, so it can be done.




Yeah - it's pretty hard to refute his observations when he used them to calculate the correct rotation period for Uranus to within minutes, well before Voyager arrived.
Action talks, and everything else walks.




True. Actions matter. Results matter.

One of things that has been a bummer for me is that the years that I was Texas Star Party, O'Meara was not there. I have always been interested in the outer planets, but everything I have heard and read really makes it hard for me to believe some of the claims that float around.

I also am a firm believer in skill of the observer. I consider myself a persistent intermediate. I have seen first hand what an expert can do with my scope.

O'Meara is probably the best (or at least top 3) visual observers of all time. If there was/is something to see on Uranus I don't doubt he could do it. The question is, are people repeating what he did or being fooled by eye/mind tricks. O'Meara really does not have to prove anything, he already has


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5605592 - 01/04/13 09:12 PM

Nobody mentioning Amateur Astronomy?

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: KidOrion]
      #5605820 - 01/05/13 12:17 AM

There is now!

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5606084 - 01/05/13 07:35 AM

Quote:

The idea of seeing features on Uranus really interests me.




We ran an article on this in S&T just a few months back. Most of the time Uranus is totally featureless in visible light. But on rare occasions it sports cloud features that are relatively easy for a keen-eyed observer to spot, or a video photographer to record.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: KidOrion]
      #5606111 - 01/05/13 08:29 AM

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Nobody mentioning Amateur Astronomy?




Why should anybody have to mention it? Everybody here is already a subscriber, right?

Even if I wasn't a contributor, I'd be reading AA. And saving every issue, and often referring back to them.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5606236 - 01/05/13 10:12 AM

Quote:

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Nobody mentioning Amateur Astronomy?




Why should anybody have to mention it? Everybody here is already a subscriber, right?

Even if I wasn't a contributor, I'd be reading AA. And saving every issue, and often referring back to them.




no-not every one

I continued for 2 years post Tom,
but then lost interest
maybe too much astrophotography
for my old fashion visual brain

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: edwincjones]
      #5606244 - 01/05/13 10:17 AM

I took Astronomy Now for a few years
and found the British attitude charming
but the extra cost for mailing to the US
was too much

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: edwincjones]
      #5608094 - 01/06/13 11:12 AM

Thank You everyone for the recommendations.
Have any of you a magazine to recommend that was not on my list?

I saw Amateur Astronomy mentioned; what can you tell me about that?


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Brian Albin]
      #5608720 - 01/06/13 04:07 PM

Quote:

Thank You everyone for the recommendations.
Have any of you a magazine to recommend that was not on my list?

I saw Amateur Astronomy mentioned; what can you tell me about that?




"Of, by, and for amateur astronomers..."

http://amateurastronomy.com/


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: CelestronDaddy]
      #5626731 - 01/16/13 06:19 PM

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I have subscribed to several astronomy magazines but I always return to S&T, which I'm currently subscribed to. Good magazine... Tony




I cancelled Astronomy Magazine today because they did a redo, and significantly reduced the size of the type of the articles. This was a big mistake. I have kept Sky and Telescope--an excellent magazine.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: GeneT]
      #5626809 - 01/16/13 07:04 PM

Sky at Night from the UK

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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5627581 - 01/17/13 08:19 AM

yes but moving more and more to the imaging world which personally as a visual observer I find to be a bad thing. There is already enough about imaging out there.

Owen


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: obrazell]
      #5627811 - 01/17/13 10:54 AM

Sky At Night magazine comes every month with a DVD containing a recent TV-program (and sometimes an extra classic TV-program) & software on it...

Spaceflight magazines also tackles astronomy, especially space telescopes.

A good overview: http://www.thespacereview.com/article/1119/1


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: obrazell]
      #5627883 - 01/17/13 11:27 AM

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yes but moving more and more to the imaging world which personally as a visual observer I find to be a bad thing. There is already enough about imaging out there.

Owen




There is plenty of material on visual observing in AA...pretty much the same as always, I'd say.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5630456 - 01/18/13 07:26 PM

The lowest current price I've found for Astronomy Magazine is $46.75 for a three year subscription through subscriptionaddiction. You MUST do a Google search for "Astonomy Magazine discount", and the link for the subscriptionaddiction offer will be a sponsor link (top links) on about the second page. It will list it for $29.90 for 12 issues, but when you click through the link it will offer two or three year options ($55 for the latter). Entering the code "MOM15PER" reduces it another 15%.

This link may or may not work. If not, use the above method to generate a valid link.

Paul

PS: I've been an S&T subscriber for decades, only recently subscribed to Astronomy Magazine (but have had thrifty Scottish genes since birth!)


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Paul Hyndman]
      #5631843 - 01/19/13 04:30 PM

Astronomy Magazine, $46.75 for a three years is compelling; I may go with that. Thanks for the recommendation, Paul.

I see there is an “Astronomy & Space" magazine, published by Astronomy Ireland. http://www.astronomy.ie/magazine.php
It is too expensive for me, but I am curious about it's contents.
Is this magazine known to anyone here?


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5633754 - 01/20/13 06:42 PM

Quote:

"Of, by, and for amateur astronomers..."
http://amateurastronomy.com/




Thanks! I just subscribed from the money I saved by dropping Astronomy Magazine.


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Re: Magazine Recommendations? new [Re: Paul Hyndman]
      #5634032 - 01/20/13 10:16 PM

Astronomy and S&T are cheaper if you can join a club, and have the club put in the order for you.

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