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Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally
      #5665283 - 02/06/13 01:37 PM

I've been looking for a nice copy of this book for a few years, but the prices always scared me away. Last week while looking on AbeBooks.com, I found one listed as very good from a 5-star seller for $47 shipped. I ordered it and it just arrived today.

Well, I scored on this 1996 printing as it is absolutely mint, jacket and book. The jacket even has a nice mylar cover. The timing is great as I just added the 21st Century atlas to my lunar collection. I'm looking forward to reading through this one.

It was a long wait, but worth it.

Edited by rockethead26 (02/06/13 01:38 PM)


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5665346 - 02/06/13 02:06 PM

Lots of blank areas in the libration maps in the 96 version.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: swalker]
      #5665377 - 02/06/13 02:20 PM

Hi Sean

Not sure this will be a problem for me, but I was unaware of this fault in this edition. I'm not sure what you are referring to. There are 8 libration maps and they look fairly complete. Could you be more specific?

Of course, I love it when the first response to my new book post is that I bought the wrong version. Such is life!

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5665478 - 02/06/13 03:12 PM

Enjoy it! For a LONG discussion about the various editions, see this thread from 2011.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Photobud]
      #5665504 - 02/06/13 03:23 PM Attachment (45 downloads)

Ah, perhaps the one you have corrected that. The old edition I own (1990) has gaps in Libration Zones V and VI (page 186 and 187). It must have been filled in between then and the last version. Nothing wrong with it, mind you. I refer to whichever is at hand. I only discovered the discrepancy when plotting the monthly librations for Chuck Wood's column. Attached is a cell phone snapshot I just took of Zone VI, 1990.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: swalker]
      #5665607 - 02/06/13 04:27 PM

Sean,

Thanks for the picture. Yes, those gaps are in my version as well. I saw that, but wasn't sure if that's what you were referring to. The gaps seem minor, regardless. I'll go read the thread that Photobud linked to to get a better understanding.

I probably will never be a serious student of the moon, so these minor omissions on areas that are difficult to see will never bother me.

Thanks again.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Photobud]
      #5665674 - 02/06/13 05:11 PM

Quote:

Enjoy it! For a LONG discussion about the various editions, see this thread from 2011.




Thanks for the link. I remember reading that when it was current and made a mental note for when I was going to buy one. I guess my mental note faded away. I think if I had remembered that thread when I was contemplating this purchase, I would have made the buy anyway.

Other than nicer paper in the original and a few percent of the libration maps filled in on the S&T version and some text updates, they're pretty much the same. It's all about Rukl's drawings anyway.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5665692 - 02/06/13 05:20 PM

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...It's all about Rukl's drawings anyway.



You've got that right!


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Photobud]
      #5665723 - 02/06/13 05:40 PM

Nice catch! Glad you finally have a nice copy.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rookie]
      #5665802 - 02/06/13 06:28 PM

Congratulations, indeed! I had that edition almost permanently check out from the UofA library, until the more recent edition was brought out by S&T. It's still my most-used lunar observing resource.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5666067 - 02/06/13 09:34 PM

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The timing is great as I just added the 21st Century atlas to my lunar collection. I'm looking forward to reading through this one.




Just for fun: Take any chart from Rukl, and compare it to the same area shown in the 21st Century atlas, with its incredibly sharp images. Notice how dead-nuts accurate Rukl's drawings are, to the minutest detail!


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5666654 - 02/07/13 08:55 AM

Quote:

I've been looking for a nice copy of this book for a few years, but the prices always scared me away. Last week while looking on AbeBooks.com, I found one listed as very good from a 5-star seller for $47 shipped. I ordered it and it just arrived today.

Well, I scored on this 1996 printing as it is absolutely mint, jacket and book. The jacket even has a nice mylar cover. The timing is great as I just added the 21st Century atlas to my lunar collection. I'm looking forward to reading through this one.

It was a long wait, but worth it.




That's a great catch for $47 shipped, and a nice companion to the 21st Century Atlas of the Moon. As Rick says, it's fun to compare the two atlases on the same areas of the moon. Rukl's work is amazingly accurate.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: turtle86]
      #5666882 - 02/07/13 11:12 AM

Only the 2004 edition (the one I got to work with Tony Rukl on) has the "lunar icognita" filled in. This and a substantial re-working of the text were the main reasons for issuing a revised edition.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: GaryS]
      #5667213 - 02/07/13 02:40 PM

Thanks for all the feedback, everyone. I'll see if I can get lucky with an affordable copy of the 2004 edition in the future, Gary.

Rick and Rob,

I'm looking forward to getting some time to make the comparisons between Rukl and the 21st Century Atlas.

As have a lot of other observers, I have only spent a casual amount of time looking at our nearest neighbor, but that's going to change in 2013. I'm going to give the Lunar 100 a shot and it should make for some easy observing nights here in my red zone.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5667792 - 02/07/13 08:20 PM

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Thanks for all the feedback, everyone. I'll see if I can get lucky with an affordable copy of the 2004 edition in the future, Gary.

Rick and Rob,

I'm looking forward to getting some time to make the comparisons between Rukl and the 21st Century Atlas.

As have a lot of other observers, I have only spent a casual amount of time looking at our nearest neighbor, but that's going to change in 2013. I'm going to give the Lunar 100 a shot and it should make for some easy observing nights here in my red zone.




Same here. I'm mostly a deep-sky observer, so I've only done casual lunar observing myself, but lately I've come to realize that I've been giving the moon short shrift over the years. Many pluses to lunar observing--no need to drive two hours to a dark site, so much detail that can be seen with even a small scope, and so on.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: turtle86]
      #5667868 - 02/07/13 09:09 PM

Great catch, Jim! Enjoy your new atlas. I have one of the older editions as well, and I really don't have any plans to "upgrade." I consider mine a keeper.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Scott in NC]
      #5667944 - 02/07/13 10:04 PM

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I have one of the older editions as well, and I really don't have any plans to "upgrade." I consider mine a keeper.






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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5672685 - 02/10/13 04:52 PM

For those interested, a new German-language edition was just recently released, see here.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Mark9473]
      #6136739 - 10/14/13 11:42 AM

I have just one edit to Mark9473's post, the publishing house is called Aventinum and they remade the Atlas of the Moon three months ago in 5 languages (including Hungarian )
Here is the link http://www.aventinum.cz/eshop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=160


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: pavlikva]
      #6137527 - 10/14/13 05:30 PM

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I have just one edit to Mark9473's post, the publishing house is called Aventinum and they remade the Atlas of the Moon three months ago in 5 languages (including Hungarian )
Here is the link http://www.aventinum.cz/eshop/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=160




Looks like one of the languages is English, too!


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: turtle86]
      #6138392 - 10/15/13 06:55 AM

Yes it is.
They even presented it on Frankfurt Book Fair last week.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: turtle86]
      #6138430 - 10/15/13 07:25 AM

But no shipping options outside of Europe...

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: BSJ]
      #6141758 - 10/16/13 08:42 PM

My issue is a 1991 copy of "Hamlyn's Atlas of the Moon". It was first published in Great Britain in 1991 by Paul Hamlyn Publishing, London. I got this book through the now defunct Astronomy Book Club! for $29.99.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: turtle86]
      #6143894 - 10/17/13 10:33 PM

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That's a great catch for $47 shipped, and a nice companion to the 21st Century Atlas of the Moon. As Rick says, it's fun to compare the two atlases on the same areas of the moon. Rukl's work is amazingly accurate.




How about a comparison? With the 21st Century Atlas in hand, is the Rukl really that important for the non collector?


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: BSJ]
      #6151995 - 10/22/13 04:26 PM

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But no shipping options outside of Europe...




Maybe they don't do it usually. Try to write them


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Wmacky]
      #6152045 - 10/22/13 04:55 PM

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How about a comparison? With the 21st Century Atlas in hand, is the Rukl really that important for the non collector?




No it is not. If you want more detail than the excellent Wood atlas has, you want to go to Virtual Moon Atlas, which, being a computer app, can offer more detail than either. For most of us, I think 21st Century is more than sufficient.

Edited by rmollise (10/23/13 09:07 AM)


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: rmollise]
      #6152377 - 10/22/13 08:04 PM

I agree with Rod, I think that the Visual Moon Atlas for very small detail is excellent, either of the two books is great for general finding your way around.

On the wall of my old observatory I had a Phillips Moon Atlas pinned to the wall. It was great for very general finding the stuff I didn't know off the top of my head.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: stevecoe]
      #6152737 - 10/22/13 11:49 PM

Rukl's or Wood's book, either or will work. I am very lucky to have both. I also recommend The Modern Moon by Woods as well I use it a lot for learning about features. I don't think there is a book like it.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #6157917 - 10/25/13 05:46 PM

I know this is a minor point, but the page numbers, "next chart" numbers, and grid lines in the first edition were red, hence invisible using a red LED flashlight.
The reprint changed these to another color so they do show up in red light.
Yes, I suppose I could use another color of light because I don't really have much night vision when looking at the Moon, but a red flashlight is the only color I pack in my astronomy gear, so it is what I have in the field.
Since I inked in black page numbers and chart directions, I never felt the need to change to the later edition, but those of you looking for used copies should be aware of that if it matters.

Those who want a nice computer atlas, I recommend VirtualMoon 6.0. It's a free download and quite impressive.

Edited by Starman1 (10/25/13 06:19 PM)


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Starman1]
      #6158031 - 10/25/13 06:51 PM

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but a red flashlight is the only color I pack in my astronomy gear,




There is many versatile lamp today that has white and red with different level of intensity. To me a frontal lamp is the best.

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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: pavlikva]
      #6183318 - 11/08/13 05:18 PM

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Quote:

But no shipping options outside of Europe...




Maybe they don't do it usually. Try to write them




I emailed them and asked about it. They seemed willing to ship to the US, but they said shipping would be very expensive. More than what the book cost. They suggested trying to get a group buy going. Order like 10 books and have it sent to one address in the US, that apparently saves a lot per book, and then have that person redistribute them.

I'd sign up if somebody organized it, but I might just bite the bullet and pay the exorbitant shipping charges. I think it still comes out to way less than what a used 2nd edition Rukl goes for. (nearly $200 when I checked)


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: Schaden]
      #6236295 - 12/05/13 09:52 PM

I just got a copy of the 1990 edition off of Amazon for $17.50, shipped! It was described as being in 'acceptable' shape. Therefore I was not surprised that when it arrived the cover was a little dirty and there was a slight separation of the binding inside the front cover, very easily fixed with some clear tape. All of the pages are in fine shape.

Checking the web I could only find a few copies under $100, all over $80. I guess the bookseller I got this copy from did not check around.


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Re: Rukl's Atlas of the Moon - Finally new [Re: George N]
      #6236373 - 12/05/13 10:48 PM

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I just got a copy of the 1990 edition off of Amazon for $17.50, shipped! It was described as being in 'acceptable' shape. Therefore I was not surprised that when it arrived the cover was a little dirty and there was a slight separation of the binding inside the front cover, very easily fixed with some clear tape. All of the pages are in fine shape.

Checking the web I could only find a few copies under $100, all over $80. I guess the bookseller I got this copy from did not check around.




Excellent score, George! I thought I had gotten a good deal.


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