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Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT!
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I'm very happy to report my genuine copy of Craig Crossen's Sky Vistas arrived this afternoon!!!

I ordered it through Biblio.com and originally it was to come from Cold Books in NY but instead it arrived by DHL from another "B.P. Agency" in New Delhi, India! WOW!
It arrived in great condition double-wrapped in bubble wrap and then over-wrapped in cardboard and taped up very well. The book is new with the shiny dust jacket and was shrink-wrapped. It has the red end papers on front and back covers, a sewn binding, and glossy pages throughout. The ISBN numbers are different from the front book cover and back cover (back dust jacket ISBN # matches back book cover). The book is heavy and the ship wt. given on the form is 1.70kg. I paid $83.04 USD for it through Biblio. I'm extremely pleased!!!

Here's some pics...I hope they will aid others in finding true copies.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695523 - 02/22/13 08:04 PM Attachment (34 downloads)

another...

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Crow Haven
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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695527 - 02/22/13 08:05 PM Attachment (30 downloads)

.....inside cover

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695534 - 02/22/13 08:06 PM Attachment (22 downloads)

....back cover

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695541 - 02/22/13 08:09 PM

Great news as I ordered from the same store. It will be interesting to see where mine shipped from. It should be here any day now. Funny coincidence, my wife is headed to New Delhi tomorrow.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5695548 - 02/22/13 08:13 PM

Incredible! I hope you get the genuine copy too. Best wishes for your wife's trip -- I've always been very interested in India!
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695565 - 02/22/13 08:23 PM

Nice one.. Congrats!!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: CelestronDaddy]
      #5695578 - 02/22/13 08:34 PM

Thanks!! I have to say also it really is a magnificent book -- just stunning -- and I'm thrilled to have it to enjoy.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5695989 - 02/23/13 02:21 AM

Glad to hear this. It's simply an incredible book.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5696259 - 02/23/13 09:53 AM

Way to go, and thanks for posting the pics. This should help people get the right version. It's just an outstanding work. Nothing else quite like it.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: turtle86]
      #5696371 - 02/23/13 11:05 AM Attachment (23 downloads)

Congratulations on locating a fine original copy Maya! This has been a lesson for print on demand issues for me.

I highly recommend you consider putting book jacket covers on your books. I am able to buy them at a local used book store easily. If you can't find them locally, they can be ordered.
Example Here

You choose a size that is the same as your book dimension or larger. The inside paper liner of the jacket can be cut and fitted to any smaller size. So if you buy several, they can be cut down to fit smaller books.

The covers preserve the book jackets integrity for UV and humidity degradation. They also prevent handling damage. They will preserve and increase the value of your investment. The used book store employees told me that when book jacketed books have a completely different resale value. Even jacketed used library books can be purchased with greater confidence.

I took my book out of its 12" refitted book cover + dust jacket for this photo. Walter Scott Houston's Deep Sky Wonders and other fine old books of mine seem to have new life and look with the book jacket covers.

Edited by rookie (02/23/13 11:15 AM)


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: rookie]
      #5696806 - 02/23/13 03:16 PM

Thanks everyone. I spent the evening last night (it's been raining here) reading this fine book and admiring the gorgeous photos -- it's just such a wonderful book, very high quality printing and thick glossy paper, loaded with great information! I will be using it the rest of my life (like Burnam's set I have in hardback). I won't be writing notes in this book though, it's simply too nice!

Thanks so much, rookie, for the link to the book covers. That's a terrific idea! I will definitely be getting those for this book and many other favorite books.
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5696865 - 02/23/13 03:49 PM

Maya,

Do you live on one of our coasts or in the middle of the country? Just curious to see when I should expect mine. I was hoping for today, but I don't think DHL delivers on Saturday. I ordered a few hours before you did, so it should be close.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5696908 - 02/23/13 04:09 PM

Jim, I live in Coos Bay/North Bend region, on the (very rainy) Oregon coast. I was surprised to receive my book as soon as I did, especially considering where it came from! I received an email confirmation from Biblio that my book had been shipped but there was no mention that it wasn't coming directly from Cold Books in NY. I had written in the comments box on the order form that I wanted the first edition with the red end papers and glossy pages...it seems they really took notice of that and put in the effort to send the correct copy. I'm impressed!
You ought to have your copy by Monday I would think.
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5696929 - 02/23/13 04:28 PM

Thanks, Maya. Fingers crossed for Monday or Tuesday.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5697052 - 02/23/13 06:06 PM

Quote:

I'm very happy to report my genuine copy of Craig Crossen's Sky Vistas arrived this afternoon!!!

I ordered it through Biblio.com and originally it was to come from Cold Books in NY but instead it arrived by DHL from another "B.P. Agency" in New Delhi, India! WOW!
It arrived in great condition double-wrapped in bubble wrap and then over-wrapped in cardboard and taped up very well. The book is new with the shiny dust jacket and was shrink-wrapped. It has the red end papers on front and back covers, a sewn binding, and glossy pages throughout. The ISBN numbers are different from the front book cover and back cover (back dust jacket ISBN # matches back book cover). The book is heavy and the ship wt. given on the form is 1.70kg. I paid $83.04 USD for it through Biblio.




The five copies I received immediately after printing in the late autumn of 2003 were also shrink-wrapped, though I can't say for sure that all copies printed at that time were shrink-wrapped.

It's not totally surprising that you received a mint copy from New Delhi because Springer-Verlag has a major marketing and distribution office there and presumably after printing copies were sent to every Springer distribution center. Seems strange, though, that a New York book-seller would have to send all the way to New Delhi for a mint copy! I would think that Springer's New York facility still has some.

Anyway, you obviously got a terrific price on it, especially considering how much shipping costs on a book that weights 1.7 kg. Thanks for the report.

Craig Crossen


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crossen]
      #5697102 - 02/23/13 06:45 PM

Thanks for that information, Craig, and for this wonderful and useful book you and Mr. Rhemann have produced. It was certainly a surprise to me that it came from New Delhi, but you have explained it. The shipping charge to me was $3.50. I was very happy with the ad price on the book ($79.54) as I have seen other copies (unknown if genuine) for up to $140! I had originally checked on copies at Amazon and there was no mention of their books being "print on demand" versions. The prices put me off, I'm lucky I waited to find other sellers! I will be very careful with any orders from them after all this regarding their POD books.
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5697223 - 02/23/13 08:13 PM

+1

Genuine/mint from Alibris: $68.41 shipped.



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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Levine]
      #5697261 - 02/23/13 08:33 PM

Good one!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5697567 - 02/23/13 11:28 PM

It's a wonderful book. I was using mine last weekend with a pair of new to me (1983) CZJ 7x50 binoculars. Very inspiring work.

- Jim


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5700146 - 02/25/13 04:11 PM

Mine showed up a few minutes ago from Delhi via DHL. Same neat, well wrapped package as Maya received. The book is the original first edition and is in perfect condition. What a book it is. Going to dig into it now with a nice home brewed cappuccino.

For anyone looking for the first edition of this book, I highly recommend Cold Books through Biblio.com, if they still show copies in stock.

Edited by rockethead26 (02/25/13 08:13 PM)


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5700162 - 02/25/13 04:19 PM

Quote:

It's a wonderful book. I was using mine last weekend with a pair of new to me (1983) CZJ 7x50 binoculars. Very inspiring work.

- Jim




Glad you have this too, Jim! Perfect with those great 7x50 binoculars.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5700170 - 02/25/13 04:22 PM

Quote:

Mine showed up a few minutes ago from Dehli via DHL. Same neat, well wrapped package as Maya received. The book is the original first edition and is in perfect condition. What a book it is. Going to dig into it now with a nice home brewed cappuccino.

For anyone looking for the first edition of this book, I highly recommend Cold Books through Biblio.com, if they still show copies in stock.




Fantastic news, Jim!!! It certainly is an enjoyable read!


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5700503 - 02/25/13 08:09 PM

It took longer to CA by media mail, but this time I did get the genuine copy, and with the dust jacket! Like the first post, it was ordered earlier than his from Biblio with ColdBooks, and came from Table Top Art in NYC rather than India. It would seem that Coldbooks is a middle man indicating that it carries the book, but has it sent from other sources. There are also many distributors like this on Amazon.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: DrAl]
      #5700511 - 02/25/13 08:15 PM

That's great news that yet another genuine copy has arrived! Interesting info about Cold Books too. At least, however they are going about it, they are making the effort to get correct copies thus far. Hope that continues!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5701941 - 02/26/13 04:02 PM

Congrats on your purchase, great that you got the "Real McCoy".

Stephan


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Stellarfire]
      #5701982 - 02/26/13 04:17 PM

Thanks, Stephan. This book is a real treasure!
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5716626 - 03/06/13 03:10 PM

Ordered a copy last sunday, as part of a bigger order of various books. The description was accurate as far as weigth e.t.c. goes. I specifically informed the bookstore that I'm looking for a original publishers copy, and not a POD. They replied that they will get the book from their supplier, and that the description is based on data from the supplier. They said I can return the book (return shipping covered by them) if it turns out it is not an original pubishers copy.
I just received an e-mail telling me that all books in the order have shipped, except for two, which still are on the way to the vendor. One of these books being "Sky Vistas". So now I'm of course wondering if the delay is because the vendors supplier is printing a POD-copy.
I'll let you all know how the story ends, once the book evenually arrives...


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #5716788 - 03/06/13 04:30 PM

It sounds like there's a good chance you will get a true copy, Patrik. If not, at least you have the assurance that you may return the book if it's not what you ordered.

I hope you get get news!
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5722237 - 03/09/13 12:37 PM

Looks like this book will be my next astronomy purchase.

Rookie, thank you for the link to the book covers.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #5740568 - 03/18/13 12:00 PM

Quote:

Ordered a copy last sunday, as part of a bigger order of various books. The description was accurate as far as weigth e.t.c. goes. I specifically informed the bookstore that I'm looking for a original publishers copy, and not a POD. They replied that they will get the book from their supplier, and that the description is based on data from the supplier. They said I can return the book (return shipping covered by them) if it turns out it is not an original pubishers copy.
I just received an e-mail telling me that all books in the order have shipped, except for two, which still are on the way to the vendor. One of these books being "Sky Vistas". So now I'm of course wondering if the delay is because the vendors supplier is printing a POD-copy.
I'll let you all know how the story ends, once the book evenually arrives...




It has arrived, and it will be returned...

Actually it does not look that bad at a cursory glance, but when examining it closer one immediately notices that the paper is not glossy, and thus the pictures are not really sharp. White endpapers, and a weight of about 1150 grams.

I might have kept it if it cost half of what it does - the price is 72,-, but for that price I expect a genuine copy.

You win some, you loose some... ("Only" time and effort in this particular case, but still....)


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #5740696 - 03/18/13 01:13 PM

Bummer, Patrik! Real copies are out there, keep trying.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Patrik Iver]
      #5740705 - 03/18/13 01:20 PM

That's really a shame, and this practice by booksellers to not describe POD books as such is certainly not a good one. I hope you have better luck the next time, Patrik.
---Maya


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: jrbarnett]
      #5879977 - 05/23/13 10:54 AM

I just ordered mine from Cold Books. We'll see what I get!

I noticed the price had jumped up well over $100 a while back, and when I just saw that it had come back down I jumped.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5880576 - 05/23/13 03:53 PM

It's a great book -- Good Luck!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5882535 - 05/24/13 03:21 PM

Just curious.

For those that ordered from Cold Books, how long after you ordered until the status changed from "Awaiting Bookseller Confirmation"?

Edited by Wmacky (05/24/13 03:22 PM)


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5882725 - 05/24/13 05:15 PM

Mine shipped the next day after I ordered it. There was no mention, however, that the book was coming from a book agency in India. That was a surprise!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5882967 - 05/24/13 07:26 PM

Quote:

Mine shipped the next day after I ordered it. There was no mention, however, that the book was coming from a book agency in India. That was a surprise!




Oh well, that's what I figured. Looks like their not going to move as fast on mine, making for a long weekend. I hope they're not finding it difficult to honor my Red endpapers request!


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5894877 - 05/31/13 07:03 PM

WARNING:

Coldbooks is no longer a good source of this book. It is my opinion that they never were a reliable source. I believe it was just dumb luck that everyone else got the correct one. They are just distributors, and just ship whatever they can from other providers. My special request for a 1st edition with red endpapers was completely ignored.


Yes I got a POS- POD. I don't have the time for this so I won't be trying again....

Edited by Wmacky (05/31/13 07:44 PM)


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5894911 - 05/31/13 07:29 PM

That's sad to hear and just awful!!! I wish this hadn't happened. The way some booksellers are now sending out POD copies is so aggravating!

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5894940 - 05/31/13 07:53 PM

Quote:

That's sad to hear and just awful!!! I wish this hadn't happened. The way some booksellers are now sending out POD copies is so aggravating!




Sure is. I had been following the threads on this book for a long time, and finally had some extra funds. Talk about a let down. Being that the book did not really even come from coldbooks but rather "Prints Asia" I bet the return will be a nightmare.

If a can just get my cash back I'm going to get the Barnard Atlas instead.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Wmacky]
      #5895170 - 05/31/13 10:16 PM

Contact the seller, if that doesn't work you can dispute it with your credit/debit card company.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5895511 - 06/01/13 03:53 AM

Quote:

That's sad to hear and just awful!!! I wish this hadn't happened. The way some booksellers are now sending out POD copies is so aggravating!




I'm aggravated too. When this problem first came to my attention a couple months ago, I called Springer-Verlag here in Vienna, where the book was originally printed. One of the editors in Planning (the editor Gerald and I had worked with has retired) told me that it is now Springer's policy not to reprint when the first printing of a book is sold out, but to distribute POD copies. However, this should not (yet) apply to "Sky Vistas" because, according to my count from Springer's annual accounting statements to me, something like half the original first printing of the book should still be available--that would be around 1000 copies (the exact number would depend upon how many review copies Springer sent out, which should not be more than a two-digit number anyway). In short, there is absolutely no legitimate reason that buyers should be getting what are in essence counterfeit copies of "Sky Vistas."

The editor at Springer said she would call me back about this problem. She hasn't, and that was two months ago. It's clear that I'm going to have to go to Springer's offices here in Vienna and raise Cain in person. I would have gotten around to this sooner, but during the past two months I have been finishing the research, writing, and illustrations-gathering for a history of archaeology in Iraq with another European publisher. But from the limited information I have, I would guess that the problem does not originate with Springer-Verlag here in Vienna anyway, but with Springer New York and with distributors like Amazon. I would say that the best course for a would-be buyer is to order "Sky Vistas" directly from Springer in New York rather than from a secondary distributer, specifying the original first-printing copies of the book with the red end-covers, which seem to be a reliable sign of authenticity.

Craig Crossen


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crossen]
      #5896311 - 06/01/13 03:50 PM

Craig,
Have you seen how the book looks on a Kindle. I see that Amazon is selling a Kindle version of your book. I only ask since I am eyeing a Kindle Fire HD and am trying to keep my number of printed books to more easy to manage amount... also if the binding is *BLEEP* on the POD, might as well just get it for Kindle and not worry about bindings.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5896317 - 06/01/13 03:53 PM

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Have you seen how the book looks on a Kindle. I see that Amazon is selling a Kindle version of your book. I only ask since I am eyeing a Kindle Fire HD and am trying to keep my number of printed books to more easy to manage amount... also if the binding is terrible on the POD, might as well just get it for Kindle and not worry about bindings.




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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: LivingNDixie]
      #5896656 - 06/01/13 07:46 PM

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Have you seen how the book looks on a Kindle. I see that Amazon is selling a Kindle version of your book. I only ask since I am eyeing a Kindle Fire HD and am trying to keep my number of printed books to more easy to manage amount... also if the binding is *BLEEP* on the POD, might as well just get it for Kindle and not worry about bindings.




Yes, I have been aware of the Kindle e-version of "Sky Vistas." Its file size--under 9 MB--is simply too small to do justice to Gerald's photos: there are, after all, 48 full-page color plates in the book plus 48 B&W photos, many of them also full-page. The Kindle price--$65--is so high that it makes sense to spend the extra $25 or so for the real thing and have the photos--a gallery of the art of astrophotography by Gerald Rhemann--in the best possible form. I presume, but do not know for a fact, that it is this disgracefully low-MB scan that's being used to generate the POD versions of the book that are being peddled.

You were correct in your review of the book on Amazon: only a couple photos in "Sky Vistas" are from CCD astrophotography because Gerald was just getting into it when we assembled "Sky Vistas." However, he had had all his astrophotos scanned by that time and provided Springer with computer-processed images (which we worked on together).

You were also correct to call "Sky Vistas" a coffee-table book, because it is and I meant it to be. But, as you also pointed out, it is likewise a reference source, with dozens of (usually short, because I did not want them to dominate the look of the book) data tables. It is also a non-mathematical introduction to astrophysics for the serious amateur astronomer and many, or most, of the astrophotos were chosen for inclusion in the book not only because they are very beautiful works of art, but also because they vividly illustrate the astrophysics of the objects and/or fields shown. The rather lengthy captions to many of the photos are intended to bring out the astrophysics those photos illustrate.

I did choose the photos with comets intentionally for inclusion in the book: Gerald likes to do comet astrophotography, and so he has a lot of them. I'm glad you liked them.

Craig Crossen


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crossen]
      #5896696 - 06/01/13 08:13 PM

The Abe Books web site has a search refinement option called "Not Print-on-Demand". I have purchased many books through them including my Sky Vistas copy that came from Germany and I've never noticed this option before. It may be new or it may be I am more attentive to the issue because of this thread.

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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: Crossen]
      #5897723 - 06/02/13 12:24 PM

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Craig,
Have you seen how the book looks on a Kindle. I see that Amazon is selling a Kindle version of your book. I only ask since I am eyeing a Kindle Fire HD and am trying to keep my number of printed books to more easy to manage amount... also if the binding is *BLEEP* on the POD, might as well just get it for Kindle and not worry about bindings.




Yes, I have been aware of the Kindle e-version of "Sky Vistas." Its file size--under 9 MB--is simply too small to do justice to Gerald's photos: there are, after all, 48 full-page color plates in the book plus 48 B&W photos, many of them also full-page. The Kindle price--$65--is so high that it makes sense to spend the extra $25 or so for the real thing and have the photos--a gallery of the art of astrophotography by Gerald Rhemann--in the best possible form. I presume, but do not know for a fact, that it is this disgracefully low-MB scan that's being used to generate the POD versions of the book that are being peddled.

You were correct in your review of the book on Amazon: only a couple photos in "Sky Vistas" are from CCD astrophotography because Gerald was just getting into it when we assembled "Sky Vistas." However, he had had all his astrophotos scanned by that time and provided Springer with computer-processed images (which we worked on together).

You were also correct to call "Sky Vistas" a coffee-table book, because it is and I meant it to be. But, as you also pointed out, it is likewise a reference source, with dozens of (usually short, because I did not want them to dominate the look of the book) data tables. It is also a non-mathematical introduction to astrophysics for the serious amateur astronomer and many, or most, of the astrophotos were chosen for inclusion in the book not only because they are very beautiful works of art, but also because they vividly illustrate the astrophysics of the objects and/or fields shown. The rather lengthy captions to many of the photos are intended to bring out the astrophysics those photos illustrate.

I did choose the photos with comets intentionally for inclusion in the book: Gerald likes to do comet astrophotography, and so he has a lot of them. I'm glad you liked them.

Craig Crossen




Hi Craig,
Glad to know the Kindle version is not the best option then if they are using a low res version to scan. I am very fortunate that our library has a copy of your book (with the red pages even!) that has been holding me over till I can get a copy for myself. I had to reread my review on Amazon But yep those comet pictures gave me a chuckle.


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      #5906942 - 06/06/13 09:48 PM

Hi, Craig,
Great to see your superb book is getting the acclaim it deserves, despite a Not Invented Here review in an astronomy source.
Best,
Bill


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: auriga]
      #5907131 - 06/06/13 11:32 PM

Hi Craig,

I promptly returned my POD copy of Sky Vistas to Amazon for a refund. The low quality of the reproductions of Gerald's beautiful astrophotography, particularly the color plates, was probably the worst thing about the POD. I was so happy to get my hands on a copy of the real deal.

If your book is a coffee table book, it is one in the same way that Timothy Ferris's magnificent Galaxies is.


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Re: Genuine copy - Sky Vistas by C. Crossen - GOT IT! new [Re: rookie]
      #5907144 - 06/06/13 11:41 PM

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The Abe Books web site has a search refinement option called "Not Print-on-Demand". I have purchased many books through them including my Sky Vistas copy that came from Germany and I've never noticed this option before. It may be new or it may be I am more attentive to the issue because of this thread.




That is great information. Thanks for sharing.


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