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New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming!
      #5785664 - 04/08/13 11:04 AM

A couple of days ago, in the "S&T Topographic Moon Globe" thread, Sean (swalker) dropped this little bombshell:

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BTW, for globe fans, we are releasing an updated version of our previously discontinued Topographical Mars Globe, coming in a month or two.

I love working on these globes...




To me, this is big news and very welcome. I thought I'd give it its own thread so everyone is sure to see it! I wonder what the updates will be?

Thanks, Sean, and everyone else involved in bringing this back.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5785947 - 04/08/13 12:56 PM

well I'll spoil the surprise and tell you the only additions are the positions of the recent mars missions (spirit, opportunity, phoenix, and curiosity) plus fix the few errors on the earlier one if there was any.
The proof we just got it looks much more vivid than the older version, I hope it translates that way to the final product.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5786239 - 04/08/13 03:38 PM

For me, it's a must-have, I can hardly wait!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5786829 - 04/08/13 08:52 PM

*pant pant pant*

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5787463 - 04/09/13 06:47 AM

I reckon I'm going to have to look into getting one. They do look cool.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5787692 - 04/09/13 09:41 AM

Looks like I'll have to put in an EOY budget request / purchase for some new globes for my courses.

Sean, when is a Mercury Globe coming?

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: GDN]
      #5790148 - 04/10/13 12:03 PM

Not for a while; we're still awaiting the final (actually first complete) map from the MESSENGER team. Then the fun starts.

Still hoping the approve my proposal for a crater name...


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5790268 - 04/10/13 12:56 PM

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Not for a while; we're still awaiting the final (actually first complete) map from the MESSENGER team. Then the fun starts.

Still hoping the approve my proposal for a crater name...




The Grad Students are working hard on finalizing the first-run images. Shouldn't be too long now.

A large bunch of proposals for crater names, I even submitted one, so that will take some time.

Now,... here's MY proposal to Sky & Telescope:

How about 4 rocky-planet globes, to size scale. Would make a great resource for classroom teaching. e.g. Mercury about 5 inches, Venus and Earth about 12 inches, and Mars about 7 inches. Run that past Bob.

Cheers,

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5790300 - 04/10/13 01:07 PM

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Still hoping the approve my proposal for a crater name...




What's your proposal? (Drum roll...)


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5790543 - 04/10/13 03:18 PM

I'd rather not say Rick; but it's an American artist who came to prominence in the mid-20th century.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5791733 - 04/11/13 02:38 AM

I hope it's Bonestell!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5791840 - 04/11/13 07:20 AM

He already has a crater that bears his name on Mars. My proposal has nothing to do with astronomy.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5836439 - 05/02/13 02:22 PM Attachment (23 downloads)

They'll be ready soon Rick. Here they are with Mary Lou during assembly:

Edited by swalker (05/03/13 02:45 PM)


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5836477 - 05/02/13 02:32 PM

Reety all righty!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5836519 - 05/02/13 02:51 PM

Ooooooooo!!! I just received the new 3rd edition regular Mars globe -- love it! -- and can hardly wait to order this topo version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---Maya


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5837076 - 05/02/13 07:19 PM

Maya, I'd love to see a group picture of all your globes!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: rookie]
      #5837166 - 05/02/13 08:19 PM

I'll try that when I get the new Mars topo globe to compare with the new 3rd ed. regular Mars globe and an older one I have (which I don't know if it's a 2nd or 1st ed. Mars globe), plus the old moon globe I have (now I'm considering getting one of the new moon globes too) and the new topo moon globe and Venus globe -- I've gone globe-crazy!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5838624 - 05/03/13 03:36 PM Attachment (27 downloads)

They should be available in the next week or so.

Edited by swalker (05/03/13 03:37 PM)


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5838657 - 05/03/13 04:02 PM

AWESOME!!!!!!!!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5839047 - 05/03/13 08:58 PM

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Ooooooooo!!! I just received the new 3rd edition regular Mars globe -- love it! -- and can hardly wait to order this topo version!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
---Maya




There's a third edition? I was under the impression that the current Mars globe is the second edition (mainly because that's what the booklet that came with it said.)

Sean,
Next week - great! Will they be on the S&T web site right away? If so I'll keep my eye peeled and check every day.


PS: What a tease!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5839509 - 05/04/13 03:21 AM Attachment (25 downloads)

For me, I really got into Mars Topo when I discovered the 3D surface modeling software VISTAPRO. Then, I no longer was interested in the topographic maps, because, I could see the topography first-hand in only a few moments of rendering:

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: GDN]
      #5840135 - 05/04/13 01:39 PM

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Quote:

Not for a while; we're still awaiting the final (actually first complete) map from the MESSENGER team. Then the fun starts.

Still hoping the approve my proposal for a crater name...




The Grad Students are working hard on finalizing the first-run images. Shouldn't be too long now.

A large bunch of proposals for crater names, I even submitted one, so that will take some time.

Now,... here's MY proposal to Sky & Telescope:

How about 4 rocky-planet globes, to size scale. Would make a great resource for classroom teaching. e.g. Mercury about 5 inches, Venus and Earth about 12 inches, and Mars about 7 inches. Run that past Bob.

Cheers,

Jerry

G.O.Dobek, FRAS




A great idea, but it would add to the cost of 3 different size tools. Much easier to use the same tool and molds, just new printing. Plus smaller globes implies less detail nd/or smaller print which is harder to read.

They may do it (perhaps both versions), but the smaller ones would likely cost more due to the unique toolingmolds, and most likely lower sales (many would prefer te larger easier to read versions).


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5840239 - 05/04/13 02:44 PM Attachment (26 downloads)

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There's a third edition? I was under the impression that the current Mars globe is the second edition (mainly because that's what the booklet that came with it said.)






Rick, the globe/booklet I just received says "Sky & Telescope's Mars Globe, 3rd Edition" on the front cover and also on the inside of the front cover. The copyright is 2011. I don't know what the differences are in appearance between this edition and the 2nd edition. My older globe looks completely different though in much lighter sepia tones and less photographic. I'll eventually take a pic of the older one.
Here's a pic of both the old Mars globe and old Moon globe in the observatory (I just ordered the new photographic Moon globe also)...

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For me, I really got into Mars Topo when I discovered the 3D surface modeling software VISTAPRO. Then, I no longer was interested in the topographic maps, because, I could see the topography first-hand in only a few moments of rendering:





David -- Looks like you're really there! VistaPro looks like a fun terrain generator with atmosphere effects...I may look into that one.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5841056 - 05/05/13 01:57 AM

Well, I guess S&T doesn't keep me apprised of these things, go figure! I sort of liked the coloration of the first edition better.

First thing Monday morning, I'm calling S&T and if it's possible to order (or pre-order) the Mars Topo globe, I'm plunking my hard-earned shekels on the spot!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5841604 - 05/05/13 12:43 PM

http://marspans.com/

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: PhilCo126]
      #5842014 - 05/05/13 04:49 PM

Fun items at both marspans and moonpans! The lunar wrap-around wall papers are enticing. Wish they had Mars vistas wall papers (vinyl for the observatory).

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5842029 - 05/05/13 04:58 PM

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Well, I guess S&T doesn't keep me apprised of these things, go figure! I sort of liked the coloration of the first edition better.

First thing Monday morning, I'm calling S&T and if it's possible to order (or pre-order) the Mars Topo globe, I'm plunking my hard-earned shekels on the spot!




One thing the earlier Mars globe in the lighter tones has going for it is the features are easier to distinguish. I also like the sort of antique-globe look it has...but I love the way the new Mars globe looks more like the actual planet.

I checked the S&T shop website again, but no mention yet of the Mars Topo globe...I'd have my order or pre-order in right now, too, if it was possible!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5842762 - 05/06/13 12:31 AM

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...but I love the way the new Mars globe looks more like the actual planet.




Maya,

That's a little bone I have to pick: I've looked at Mars for many, many hours over the years, and the color of the globe is *NOT* the same as the color of the planet. I realize it matches the colors on the adjusted rover images that are released by NASA; but it doesn't really look like that. I'd like a globe that actually looks like Mars. (I'm not crying "conspiracy" here, just stating a fact. I sort of think they're not color-adjusting those images properly.)


PS: Nice observatory warm room. But I don't see a National Geographic Mars map on the wall! It's not a proper observatory without one of those. (The 1973 one.)

Edited by Rick Woods (05/06/13 12:34 AM)


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5843267 - 05/06/13 11:00 AM

the photographic Mars globe was produced before my time at S&T. I agree, it's much more yellow/orange than the brown depicted.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5843323 - 05/06/13 11:26 AM

Yeah; the real planet has a much mellower coloring than the globe. Eh! Maybe in the 4th edition?

The Topo globe isn't available yet, as of this morning.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
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Quote:

...but I love the way the new Mars globe looks more like the actual planet.




Maya,

That's a little bone I have to pick: I've looked at Mars for many, many hours over the years, and the color of the globe is *NOT* the same as the color of the planet. I realize it matches the colors on the adjusted rover images that are released by NASA; but it doesn't really look like that. I'd like a globe that actually looks like Mars. (I'm not crying "conspiracy" here, just stating a fact. I sort of think they're not color-adjusting those images properly.)


PS: Nice observatory warm room. But I don't see a National Geographic Mars map on the wall! It's not a proper observatory without one of those. (The 1973 one.)




Rick, I haven't had that many good opportunities over the years to observe Mars. The last one when I was able to get some chances to sketch it was in 1988 (lived in NC at that time) when Mars was 23.68" dia. and I was using a Meade 10" f/10 SCT. As you can see by my sketch, I saw very light colors. Kind of a pale peach color mostly. I sure can't claim to know what the actual colors of the planet are from my observations! From my observations I'd have to go with the old Mars globe's colors, but maybe with the features a bit lighter in color...

That's a corner of the warm room and the walls are taken up with tall cabinets all around so I don't have the wall space to put up a Mars map -- and I don't have the Nat'l Geo Mars map.

Well, anyway, where's that Mars Topo globe?!!! I want to order mine!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5843652 - 05/06/13 01:50 PM

Patience, I'll let you know when topo-mars is in.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5843694 - 05/06/13 02:14 PM

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Rick, I haven't had that many good opportunities over the years to observe Mars.




Wow! Well, you sure make the most of the opportunities you do get! That's a great sketch. I just looked at my sketches from that time, and they weren't a fraction that good!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5843717 - 05/06/13 02:27 PM

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Patience, I'll let you know when topo-mars is in.





Thanks, Sean!

Rick -- Thanks! I spent long sessions and really enjoyed sketching, I think it helps me see more. As much as I complained about the high humidity and temps while in NC, it may have actually helped with the seeing at times. I'm hoping that next year I'll be able to observe and sketch Mars with the refractors, C-8, and try it with the 10" DOB for comparisons. I'm wondering if the colors will be deeper with the refractors...


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5843918 - 05/06/13 04:23 PM

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Patience, I'll let you know when topo-mars is in.




Patience??! GAHHH!!!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5850147 - 05/09/13 02:28 PM

Still not available, as of a few minutes ago.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5850210 - 05/09/13 02:56 PM

This waiting for the Mars Topo is tough...but will be worth it!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5850455 - 05/09/13 04:54 PM

Remember what Tom Petty said: "The waiting is the hardest part."

My Mars globe is the old 16-inch version. Late 80's if I recall.

I still think the four-rocky planets to-scale would be great for a teaching model. Better than my polystyrene painted models.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: GDN]
      #5850585 - 05/09/13 06:14 PM

Waiting is the hardest part! Ol' Tom was certainly right about that!
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My Mars globe is the old 16-inch version. Late 80's if I recall.





Wow, that's cool!!
I agree that the 4 rocks would be great as a scaled collection.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5851448 - 05/10/13 07:01 AM

That's nice, but I really don't see that ever happening, particularly by us. Globes come in certain sizes only because of the tooling or "molds" used to press-fit them. Creating four unique sizes for mass production would be prohibitively expensive. After all, who would want to pay $500 or more for a chipboard ball with printing on it?

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5852308 - 05/10/13 04:45 PM

Reality can be soooo cruel! Oh well, maybe eventually there will be a regular-size Mercury globe at least.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5852781 - 05/10/13 09:35 PM

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That's nice, but I really don't see that ever happening, particularly by us. Globes come in certain sizes only because of the tooling or "molds" used to press-fit them. Creating four unique sizes for mass production would be prohibitively expensive. After all, who would want to pay $500 or more for a chipboard ball with printing on it?




While I agree it probably wouldn't be very profitable, there are several globe sizes already available; wouldn't it be fairly simple just to get the dies and stamp out a few? Or is there a lot of work involved that I'm not understanding? Even a single size (6"?), to cover the Magificent Seven (Luna, Titan, Triton, & the Galilean moons)? With the regular 12" globes for the planets (plus the two 12" ones for the Moon). You could have a regular menagerie!

Last I heard (months ago), the Mercury globe was tentatively set for summer. Is that still the plan?


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5856954 - 05/13/13 08:24 AM

I was responding to the comments on scale model globes. While there are different sizes for globes, scaling them to be readable is another matter entirely. One doesn't just shrink a globe, the text needs to be readable still, yet not terribly intrusive.

The Mercury globe will probably be later, since we have not received the global map converted into the "daisy" hemispheres yet. Then once we do receive it, we have to label it, which is a bit of a moving target currently (many new names are approved each month for Mercury features).


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5857334 - 05/13/13 12:06 PM

Attention:
I just placed my order for the Mars Topo globe about 15 minutes ago.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5857390 - 05/13/13 12:29 PM

wow, that's quite a feat. I don't see it on our online store yet.

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: swalker]
      #5857562 - 05/13/13 01:38 PM

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wow, that's quite a feat. I don't see it on our online store yet.




The lady on the Customer Service line found it. I think it was item TPMARGL. When I asked her to verify that it wasn't the Moon topo globe, she tried to find it by item number, and couldn't; but then she went back in by whatever way she used first, and found it fine - good enough to place the order, anyway. I know it's not the regular Mars globe, because it was $109.95 instead of $99.95; and besides, she did double check, and the description definitely said "Mars Topographic".

Whether it's just the web site in the process of update in preparation, or if it's actually being shipped right away, remains to be seen. I hope it's the latter!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5857628 - 05/13/13 02:14 PM

I GOT ONE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Thanks for the heads up, Rick!!!

PS -- I was told that it should arrive in 10 bus. days ... and I should be getting my new Moon (photographic) globe soon too!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5889423 - 05/28/13 05:43 PM Attachment (26 downloads)

Mine arrived this afternoon! It is really gorgeous and the colors are intense. Curiosity's landing spot as well as the other rovers' are plotted. Here's a pic of it and the 3rd edition 2011 regular Mars globe....

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
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and here's the others I've recently added...

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5889591 - 05/28/13 07:28 PM

Mine came while I was out camping in the mountains last week. I just picked up my mail, and wow! This globe is superb, perfect in every way! And, I see they've changed the packing arrangement so that the globe won't have holes poked in it by the base.

Thanks, guys! This was definitely worth waiting for.

Maya, where's your Earth globe? (Ahh, never mind; who cares about that!)


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5889640 - 05/28/13 08:00 PM

Glad to hear your Mars globe arrived in perfect shape too!

Thank you S&T!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I don't need an Earth globe, Rick. Paul tells everyone that Mars is my home planet anyway.


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5890822 - 05/29/13 02:36 PM

Glad you all like it!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5891702 - 05/30/13 01:52 AM

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I don't need an Earth globe, Rick. Paul tells everyone that Mars is my home planet anyway.




LOL, that's what my wife says about me, too!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5891863 - 05/30/13 06:58 AM

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and here's the others I've recently added...




Fantastic collection, Maya!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: rockethead26]
      #5892893 - 05/30/13 05:04 PM

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Glad you all like it!



It's really great to compare the Mars topo version with the regular -- the topo globe instantaneously conveys the shape and size of the terrain features. I just love it!

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LOL, that's what my wife says about me, too!



Nothing wrong with that!

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Fantastic collection, Maya!





Thanks! I'm enjoying these so much! Maps/books are great but these globes add more of an immediate study access when sitting within view on a desk, etc.

I see in my just arrived July issue of S&T on pg. 67 the new Mars topo globe is pictured -- get 'em while they're hot off the presses folks!


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5893191 - 05/30/13 08:38 PM

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It's really great to compare the Mars topo version with the regular -- the topo globe instantaneously conveys the shape and size of the terrain features.




That's what I've been doing, too. It's quite interesting to compare the albedo Mars with the topo Mars, and see where the albedo features actually correspond with anything topographical. Then, I wonder why that would be, and why there's not more of it.

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I see in my just arrived July issue of S&T on pg. 67 the new Mars topo globe is pictured -- get 'em while they're hot off the presses folks!




Amen to that! I screwed up and missed the first issue; I think I was the first one to order this time.

Maya, you have both topo versions; is it my imagination, or is the coloring a bit more complex and varied in the new one? For example, the Alba Patera region seems less intricately colored in your picture of the older one. Or, is that just an effect of the picture?


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5893288 - 05/30/13 09:12 PM

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Maya, you have both topo versions; is it my imagination, or is the coloring a bit more complex and varied in the new one? For example, the Alba Patera region seems less intricately colored in your picture of the older one. Or, is that just an effect of the picture?






I only have this new topo version of Mars (likewise I missed out on the first one -- but the new one more than makes up for it! ) and the differences in the photos are due to the lighting/angle/flash. Alba Patera is very detailed and vivid in colorations but glare from lighting on the globe obscure that somewhat. I was using the camera flash and incandescent overhead lights. After reducing the photo down in small kb size for posting some detail is lost as well. The first pic with both Mars globes looks to me to be closest to actual globe colors etc.

The topo version is a real eye-opener as to the terrain variances! Look at Gale Crater/Mt. Sharp! If I could only have just the one I'd keep the topo version.

The new July S&T is loaded with great articles, as always, and the topo Mars and topo Venus are depicted as well in the article, "Is Plate Tectonics Necessary for Sentient Life?"


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: Crow Haven]
      #5894417 - 05/31/13 02:27 PM

The new topo globe appears distinctly more saturated coloring than the earlier version. Thats how it looks putting the two in the office together...

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! It's Here!!!! new [Re: swalker]
      #5897739 - 06/02/13 12:31 PM

I have half a dozen of Mars globes (Phobos & Deimos) but my favorite Mars globe is the smallest:



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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: GDN]
      #5940522 - 06/25/13 09:36 PM

hey, Jerry...

> I still think the four-rocky planets to-scale would be
> great for a teaching model.

sorry to take two months to offer a reply. I actually have such a set, sort of -- Earth, Moon, Mars, Mercury -- produced by NASA in the 1970s. the Moon and Mars are made of solid wood!

and that's the problem: globes, like telescopes, come in quantized sizes. it would be prohibitively expensive to produce the inner planets to scale, even if you fudged a bit and used 12-inch globes for both Earth and Venus.

we've run into this same problem in thinking about a set of globes for the Galilean satellites <shhh!>


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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: NightSkyGuy]
      #5940607 - 06/25/13 10:39 PM

GLOBES FOR THE GALILEAN SATELLITES!!!

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Re: New S&T Mars Topo Globe Coming! new [Re: Rick Woods]
      #5942928 - 06/27/13 11:13 AM

In fact those exist as do "globes" for the Martian moons Phobos & Deimos... there's even a 433 Eros and a 216 Kleopatra model

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