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Bluto69
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10" LX600 being shipped
      #5845863 - 05/07/13 03:03 PM

Just received an email from Astronomics that they just got a delivery of the 10" LX600 I ordered and will be shipping it out to ME later today!

Happy days soon to come. I hope.

Terry


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5845934 - 05/07/13 03:25 PM

Congrats! You do realize that as one of the first to receive a 10" you are bound by the rules to provide pictures and a full report!

Wish you the best of luck. I have a 10" on order as well. Maybe some light at the end of the tunnel.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: DrOxygen]
      #5845950 - 05/07/13 03:33 PM

It'll be a stunner I bet.

Best of luck....and photos are mandatory!


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Bluto69
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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: herrointment]
      #5846047 - 05/07/13 04:39 PM

Photo shall be forthcoming.
Now does anyone have suggestions how I can camouflage this scope to look close to my 8" LX200GPS so the wife doesn't find out how much money I spent?

Terry


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5846304 - 05/07/13 06:34 PM

Just tell her you did some remodeling.
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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Brian Risley]
      #5846828 - 05/07/13 10:47 PM

Congrats on the new scope. Can't wait to see pics of it!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: zjc26138]
      #5846923 - 05/07/13 11:54 PM

Grats! Hope you have better luck than the guy who did the LX600 unboxing videos on youtube.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5847412 - 05/08/13 09:48 AM

I am hoping the same thing. I did see on Meade's forum that he is getting a replacement OTA, though. His vendor helped him out there.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5847450 - 05/08/13 10:09 AM

Quote:

Grats! Hope you have better luck than the guy who did the LX600 unboxing videos on youtube.




I didn't perceive that he had such bad luck. The fit and finish, from what I can tell in the (excellent) video, are comparable to what Meade did with the RCX400 seven years ago: OTA pretty good, fork and tripod so-so at best. The important thing is that the scope works reliably. If it does, I believe Meade will have a winner.

One cautionary note? Based on the person who did the video's experience, the 12 may be too much for the mount in EQ mode. The 10-inch will no doubt be the sweet spot, just as it was IMHO for the RCX--at least for imagers. Should the wedge/fork have been beefier? Probably. But that would have meant more weight and more $$$ for an expensive (as SCTs go) line. How about the 14? Imaging-wise it would be too much given that what this person says about the behavior of the 12 is accurate. For visual? Mounted in alt-az, either the 12 or 14 would be considerably more stable than on a wedge. That's the nature of wedges and fork mount scopes.

As to whether, fit and finish issues aside, the scope is worth the money? Way too early to tell.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: rmollise]
      #5848178 - 05/08/13 04:45 PM

The Fedex tracking info says I should get it tomorrow (Thursday). :-)

Terry


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5848198 - 05/08/13 04:51 PM

We'll all be anxious to hear your impressions, Terry!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: rmollise]
      #5849915 - 05/09/13 12:15 PM

Astronomics still showing as pre order. Cant wait to hear ur observations. Telescopes.com called & said they spoke with Meade & have a few 10" scopes enroute to them & expect to ship mine by the middle of next week. It'll be real when i get a shipping conf number like u. Fingers crossed.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5850167 - 05/09/13 02:36 PM

I hope these scopes work out great for you guys.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: WesC]
      #5850376 - 05/09/13 04:15 PM

If Meade offered a kit that would allow those of us with the LX850 systems to switch out on a whim to the fork mount, I would seriously consider it.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5850380 - 05/09/13 04:18 PM

Meaning having both LX850 and LX600 mounts?

I would certainly go for that too! Though, the 14" OTA is still a bit huge.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5850461 - 05/09/13 04:57 PM

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Meaning having both LX850 and LX600 mounts?

I would certainly go for that too! Though, the 14" OTA is still a bit huge.




Well yes? Sorta. What I mean is as an LX850 owner I'd already have most of what I'd need. Just need the forks, the brackets and... well if they had a menu item in the computer to change from EQ to AZ then I'd be able to re-use my computer box too and hand controller.

Why would I even want one? If I knew ahead of time I'd be using it for visual purposes I'd probably set it up with forks. But if the cost was insane I'd just buy a second telescope and mount. Which is what I did.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5852080 - 05/10/13 01:55 PM

Sorry I haven't posted sooner. I don't have much put together yet. Did a *BLEEP* thing. Later on that.
I pulled the tripod out and set it up. What a hunk of metal. Much bigger than my tripod for my 8" LX200GPS and much bigger than I thought. Was hoping it would fit on my JMI wheeley bars but not even close.
Pulled the X-wedge out and put that aside.
Opened the LX600 box. Tears (of joy) almost came to my eyes. What a beautiful thing. Started checking the boxes and bags that work in the OTA box. Put this here and that there. Did not bother taking the OTA out. My back wouldn't take it.
Waited for my son to get home to give me a hand. First thing was to put the X-wedge on the tripod. Here is where the *BLEEP* thing starts.
Couldn't find the parts to install the wedge. Looked in the wedge box. Looked in the OTA box. Nowhere. Sh&t!
Sent Astronomics an email and I called Meade. They would send me out the new parts kit when I sent faxed or emailed my proof-of-purchase. Astronomics emailed me back that they passed this on to their rep and I would be getting an email or call from him.
Back out to the garage and waited. Looked at the X-wedge a bit closer and noticed that Azimuth control bar was bent. Not too happy about that.
So my son and I decided to just mount the scope in alt/az for now. Up it went. Then we noticed that went we turned the scope on it's base it did not turn smoothly. After some tinkering we noticed that if we took the RA slow motion control knob off it turn smooth. Put it back on and it was ruff. Looked closer at the RA slow motion control and it looks like the bar that the knob is attached to is not centered causing the knob to rub. And it seems that the bar was off centered intentionally that way. No idea why on that. Did some adjusting on how the knob sat and things are better.
Decided that was enough for the day and packed things up. Guess what? Found the wedge mounting kit. (All red faced!!) Sent an email back to Astronomics begging for forgiveness.
Son is gone for the weekend so I thought I would give it a shot on my own. Not too brilliant am I?
Took the scope off the tripod. What a beast. Before I mounted the wedge I thought I would make a bit of an adjustment to the bent bar. Amazing what a little persuasion will do. It is now fairly straight. Got the X-wedge mounted. Like the person on Meade4m site the bolt holes had some finish in the threads that needed cleaning. X-wedge is now mounted.
Decided to check the weight of the OTA, forks and base. The dang thing comes in at over 81 pounds. Don't know if my back will take lifting that much weight. Kind of procrastinating right now. My weak mind is telling me to go for it.
May just split the forks and give it a go later. Cloudy for a few days so I am in no hurry.

Terry


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5852090 - 05/10/13 02:01 PM

"Don't know if my back will take lifting that much weight. Kind of procrastinating right now. My weak mind is telling me to go for it."

Don't do it!


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5852097 - 05/10/13 02:05 PM

Isn't the idea to install the fork/base combo and then the OTA making it easier to assemble and lighter? Lifting the entire kit seems to defeat the purpose of the design.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5852104 - 05/10/13 02:08 PM

And dangerous!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: WesC]
      #5852198 - 05/10/13 03:03 PM

Best of luck with your scope, take it slow and savor the moment. I ordered the 10" as well once someone posted the weight of the 12". Even with the fork/OTA and base separated, it was above what I thought I could do alone. Went with the 10" and plan to separate the two into two more manageable pieces. Mine is due next week. Wish me luck!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: WesC]
      #5855068 - 05/12/13 09:19 AM

Were you able to snap any pics of the scope or any issues u were having?

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5855369 - 05/12/13 12:18 PM

DrOxygen, where did u order your scope from if i may ask?

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5855442 - 05/12/13 12:54 PM

I ordered from Hight Point Scientific. I was just surfing around and they had one in stock so I pulled the trigger. In reality it was being drop shipped from CA. Shipped in two days, and it's on it's way. Should be here Tuesday or Wednesday.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: DrOxygen]
      #5855600 - 05/12/13 02:23 PM

Will try to get pics out later today.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5855876 - 05/12/13 04:43 PM

Here is what the Fedex man delivered.



Edited by Bluto69 (05/13/13 08:57 AM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5855891 - 05/12/13 04:49 PM

OK. What did I do wrong in posting photos?

Terry


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5855922 - 05/12/13 05:12 PM

You need to use a link to the actual .jpg/.gif/.png file to use the image tag.

Nice looking 'scope. I hope it's everything you wanted.

Mar


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: GooglyEyes]
      #5857021 - 05/13/13 09:00 AM

Here is what the inside of the OTA box looked like. Nicely packed.



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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5857025 - 05/13/13 09:02 AM

Here it is set up on the wedge.



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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5857029 - 05/13/13 09:05 AM

Here is what I was talking about the Azimuth knob rod being off center. This causes the knob to rub against the base a makes the turning of the scope very rough.



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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5857996 - 05/13/13 05:19 PM

Gday Terry

Assuming the design is basically the same as the LX200s, that eccentric cam is used to allow the axle of RA SloMo driver gear to be correctly engaged with the large dia gear inside the scope.
By backing it off to allow the Knob to rotate freely, you are also disengaging the fit between the gears inside the scope.

If the knob rubs on the casting when it is properly adjusted, you need to advise Meade.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: OzAndrewJ]
      #5863373 - 05/15/13 10:32 PM

Any more info or perceptions on the scope? Has anyone put it thru its paces yet? Im prepping to buy one next week possibly & am curious if this is a good idea?

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5864202 - 05/16/13 11:07 AM

Haven't had it out yet. In the process of modifying my wheeley bars so I can move it about. It is the 10" but this thing weighs a bunch more than my 8". Even using two people to lift and move is not an easy task. (Especially when I have a bad back.)

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5864254 - 05/16/13 11:33 AM

Quote:

Haven't had it out yet. In the process of modifying my wheeley bars so I can move it about. It is the 10" but this thing weighs a bunch more than my 8". Even using two people to lift and move is not an easy task. (Especially when I have a bad back.)




So just make something good up to tell us, we dont care


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Qwickdraw]
      #5865229 - 05/16/13 05:18 PM

LOL, funny Qwickdraw!

Bluto, I was wondering if you'd contacted Meade tech support regarding the "adjustment" you had to do and if they had any feedback.

I had the sad duty of letting "Telescopes.com" know that they were sucking hindend regarding reception of these to ship out. They like to portray themselves as number one on Meade's preferred vendors list. LOL

They got one without the wedge in Tuesday and are "supposed" to get 2 of the ones with a wedge in tomorrow if Meade didn't lie about the date they shipped. They're using some shipping company I've never heard of to move em about named YRC Pro. The strange thing is that they gave tracking info on the one without the wedge but none on the ones with the wedge.

Meade had me past me PO'd a while back and show no sign of letting up. They're doing stupid *BLEEP* to the bitter end. I just want to get my hands on one of these before their management mishandles them into bankruptcy.

Hey, DrOxygen did you get your scope yet??? I hope your experience isn't rife with issues.

Hey Bluto69, if you do get a chance to test it out, can you give us a heads up on how the focuser does? The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5865682 - 05/16/13 07:29 PM

Quote:

The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.




I read that also. My initial thoughts were new mechanical systems are often stiff due to high tolerences and that maybe a little break in period is required.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Qwickdraw]
      #5866748 - 05/17/13 10:00 AM

I did contact Meade on the issue with the azimuth adjustment knob. They told me another person had the same issue. The "solution" was to loosen the hex nut and move the knob a bit higher so it does not rub against the base. I had already done this. Bad design if you ask me. However, I have seldom used this on my 8".
Ask for my "adjustment" to the wedge. No, I did not tell them about it because I easily straightened the adjustment screw rod.

Terry

P.S.
Still no first light. Either rain/clouds, wind, or no help around to hall it out.

Edited by Bluto69 (05/17/13 10:02 AM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Qwickdraw]
      #5867012 - 05/17/13 12:20 PM

Quote:

Quote:

The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.




I read that also. My initial thoughts were new mechanical systems are often stiff due to high tolerences and that maybe a little break in period is required.




The thing that caught my attention was that he said there was significant mirror shift. That was not suppose to be the case with new focuser. Did I hear him correctly?


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: EFT]
      #5867392 - 05/17/13 03:38 PM

Well I received my LX-600 10Ē on Wednesday. Thankfully I took the day off to wait for it. The truck that delivered it only had one person and no lift gate. Not quite sure how the fellow would have got the OTA box (big and heavy) off the truck by himself.

So too the scopeÖÖ First I unpacked the tripod and was impressed with the packaging and the size of the beast. I found the legs to be stiff and a little difficult to spread apart. Since then Iíve taken it down about three times and things seem to be easing up a bit. Worse case I can loosen the leg bolts but I donít think that will be necessary once they are broken in. Since others had reported paint etc. in the bolt holes that was the first thing I checked. Mine were clean so no issues there.

Next I unboxed the X-Wedge. Having used the prior wedge for an 8Ē I was not expecting it to be quite as heavy as it is. It seems quite sturdy and I think will work well. Time will tell. Again I checked it over thoroughly as one recipient noted a bent part. Again everything seemed perfect.

Next came the OTA. As others have said it was well boxed and protected. I examined the finish to ensure no blemishes etc and everything seems first rate. Not quite the fit and finish of a Tac but nonetheless Iím happy with the unit. First Iím approaching 60 and am so glad I got the 10Ē and did not go with a 12Ē. Iím finding that separating the OTA from the base a very nice feature. Makes the whole unit much more manageable. I wanted a unit I could setup and take down by myself. So with the unit together I have not noticed any build or cosmetic flaws what so ever. I found the focuser rather stiff as otherís have noticed but Iíll give it some time to loosen up some before being concerned. I found the bolts etc a bit tight at first but after disassembling and reassembling three times (donít ask) everything is much smoother now.

So Iím very happy so far but unfortunately have not had an opportunity to get it out under the stars for first light. Stay tunedÖ.. Hopefully tonight before the predicted clouds roll in for the remainder of the weekend.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: DrOxygen]
      #5868229 - 05/17/13 09:54 PM

Great info & thanks. Looking forward to your followup! I'm sure everyone here has heard about the Meade buyout/merger? From what i've read this is good news, insuring continued support & development of our scopes. Don't know if this will speed up or further delay reception for those of us whom havent received our scopes. Guess time will tell.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5868329 - 05/17/13 10:37 PM

The Merger isn't official until the stock holders vote to approve it and I believe they said something about July. So I'd have to assume that, other than a few people cleaning out their desks and taking all their vacation time at once, it is business as usual until then.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5868669 - 05/18/13 02:23 AM

Comment on the focuser - it is a zero image shift focuser. I have experienced no problems.

This is a major thing for me! I found focusing being an art form on my old LX200. It drove me crazy. Everything stays in place on the LX600/LX850 OTA. Peace at last!

Yes, I saw the merger notice. I posted else where. I am all over the map on what to think. Still Meade will be around for a loooong time.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5868851 - 05/18/13 06:35 AM

Good point regarding the vote, Whichway. I'm sensing a 'lull' in shipping it seems. I'm moved to try to tie the two together but obviously have no info to do so. It would seem it's still a waiting game. I'm PO'd @ Meade for making me wait so long but the funny part is there wont be anyone to be angry with left. LoL

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: EFT]
      #5869133 - 05/18/13 11:01 AM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.




I read that also. My initial thoughts were new mechanical systems are often stiff due to high tolerences and that maybe a little break in period is required.




The thing that caught my attention was that he said there was significant mirror shift. That was not suppose to be the case with new focuser. Did I hear him correctly?



Ed, that's what I thought he was saying as well but further on in the video I got the impression he was actually talking about image shake from touching the focuser knob, not mirror shift.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Spacetravelerx]
      #5869140 - 05/18/13 11:05 AM

Quote:

Comment on the focuser - it is a zero image shift focuser. I have experienced no problems.

This is a major thing for me! I found focusing being an art form on my old LX200. It drove me crazy. Everything stays in place on the LX600/LX850 OTA. Peace at last!

Yes, I saw the merger notice. I posted else where. I am all over the map on what to think. Still Meade will be around for a loooong time.




His comment was on the dual speed primary focuser. He was glad that he had gotten the zero image shift rear cell focuser to compensate for the mirror shift of the primary focuser (note that the zero image shift focuser Meade is using is now at least 10 years old if I remember correctly, my LX200GPS had one). My concern was that the new primary mirror focuser mechanism, the "internal crayford", was specifically designed to eliminate such mirror shift. I thought the new design was a good idea but my concern with the new design was that if it is not implemented correctly (i.e., with high precision) that it could actually be worse than the standard SCT focuser design. If his primary mirror focuser has a lot of shift and others don't, then I would conclude that his is defective which might make sense considering the shape of the OTA he received.

The merger may be good for Meade stock holders and maybe Meade customers, but it is sad to see Meade going the way of Celestron. At least Meade was still a US company.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Mike7Mak]
      #5869152 - 05/18/13 11:33 AM

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Ed, that's what I thought he was saying as well but further on in the video I got the impression he was actually talking about image shake from touching the focuser knob, not mirror shift.




That's what I got out of it. I think he was complaining that when mounted on the wedge that when you focus the scope itself moves...and so the image moved.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Mike7Mak]
      #5869160 - 05/18/13 11:40 AM

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The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.




I read that also. My initial thoughts were new mechanical systems are often stiff due to high tolerences and that maybe a little break in period is required.




The thing that caught my attention was that he said there was significant mirror shift. That was not suppose to be the case with new focuser. Did I hear him correctly?



Ed, that's what I thought he was saying as well but further on in the video I got the impression he was actually talking about image shake from touching the focuser knob, not mirror shift.




I guess that I will have to go back and watch it again. I hope that the new design works well because it will be a good improvement to the basic SCT design.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: EFT]
      #5870424 - 05/18/13 10:25 PM

I just can't seem to get a break. Forecast for to night was clear skies. Got the hopes up when I started to see blue skies before sunset. Just went outside to check. More clouds moving in and the satellite picture shows no clearing anytime soon. I have had my LX600 for over a week now and haven't had it out once. Clouds and rain in the forecast through Thursday. Oh well!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Mike7Mak]
      #5870442 - 05/18/13 10:36 PM

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The guy that posted about the 12" he received said it was very stiff and that he was glad he had the Zero shift focuser.




I read that also. My initial thoughts were new mechanical systems are often stiff due to high tolerences and that maybe a little break in period is required.




The thing that caught my attention was that he said there was significant mirror shift. That was not suppose to be the case with new focuser. Did I hear him correctly?



Ed, that's what I thought he was saying as well but further on in the video I got the impression he was actually talking about image shake from touching the focuser knob, not mirror shift.




That's what I experience as well.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5874464 - 05/20/13 07:07 PM

Wonder how many 10"er's are out now? Telescopes.com called today & said they had mine ready to ship. Hopefully it will go out tomorrow. Dont know why it doesnt show shipped today. I plan to try to video its initial unpacking & initial setup.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5874834 - 05/20/13 10:17 PM

Almost had mine out tonight. However, the next storm front was coming in too fast. Thursday night is predicted to clear up.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5874841 - 05/20/13 10:23 PM

Just for info, what is the firmware version in the scopes???

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: OzAndrewJ]
      #5875384 - 05/21/13 09:44 AM

Andrew,
I have version 1.1e

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5876353 - 05/21/13 05:04 PM

Gday Terry

Ooohh, i was expecting them to extend the old 4.2g, but 1.1e sounds more like the LX850 code numbering .
Just for info, does it still have SMT and Satellites functionality???
I haven't got a copy of the firmware yet, so cant tell.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: OzAndrewJ]
      #5877579 - 05/22/13 09:08 AM

Andrew,

I don't see anything in the manual about SMT. Doesn't mean it isn't there. I will check the next time I fire up the LX600. The manual still has satellite section but I have not done anything with that yet.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5877601 - 05/22/13 09:22 AM

I did get to set up the LX600 outside last night for the first time. Here are a few pics.


This is my son doing a rough align.


This is the first photo. My son took it with his 7D.



Here is a pic of M13.
Canon 7D
120 seconds
ISO 800
Used APT (First timed I used it. Don't know what I am doing yet.)
Moon a few days away from being full. Lots of humidity. In a red zone, too.
Yes I know there are star trails. Lots of sky glow. No PEC training and no drift aligning performed.

Edited by Bluto69 (05/22/13 09:23 AM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5877611 - 05/22/13 09:29 AM

Used HPP with the Starlock and it put things pretty much dead center. When doing a goto to the moon the Starlock actually tries to find the center. I need to play with the Starlock utility a bit because I could not figure out how to bring up a view of what the Starlock was seeing.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5878005 - 05/22/13 01:08 PM

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Used HPP with the Starlock and it put things pretty much dead center. When doing a goto to the moon the Starlock actually tries to find the center. I need to play with the Starlock utility a bit because I could not figure out how to bring up a view of what the Starlock was seeing.

Terry




Plug the r232 cable into the back of the Starlock. The com port will be the same as if it were connected directly to the telescope. In fact, you can control the telescope through Starlock.

Bring up the utility. Select com port and then click on the option you want. Focus downloads "still" shots so you can tweak focus if you think it is off. Watch just shows a live view of what Starlock is tracking. Histogram shows the corrections. And Point spread function shows you the star as it tracks and lets you see if it is out of round and in which direction.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5878034 - 05/22/13 01:19 PM

Very nice pics
enjoy


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: bigj]
      #5878182 - 05/22/13 02:27 PM

If you are getting star trails with Starlock guiding the aggressiveness is probaly too high. With proper PEC and polar alignment you should be in the 10% range, default is 66%. There is a routine to automatically set it but you may want to tweek it.

That version of the PEC training is old. The new, as yet unreleased version, has some significant changes. My experience is that it does better than PEMPro. In fairness to PEMPro, it doesn't currently support direct mount write to the PEC table of the LX850. If it did they should be about equal.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: bigj]
      #5878255 - 05/22/13 02:49 PM

I tried to use the utility without rtfm. Amazing what you can learn from reading. :-)

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5878331 - 05/22/13 03:15 PM

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I tried to use the utility without rtfm. Amazing what you can learn from reading. :-)

Terry




I find that I need to slide the contrast slider to the right and increase exposure quite a bit in order to see what I want to see.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Whichwayisnorth]
      #5878369 - 05/22/13 03:29 PM

Thanks Jason and Mike. Hopefully, the clouds will part again tomorrow night.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5879194 - 05/22/13 10:21 PM

I just got confirmation that mine is on truck for delivery tomorrow. Got dining room cleared out & ready. Read the manual about a dozen times. Will use a T3I for imaging but expect at least a couple days to get to that point. Bought the zero image focuser & a 13mm Nagler togo with it. Cant wait!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5879233 - 05/22/13 10:51 PM

CryhavOc,

Let me know if you have problems with the Azimuth slow motion control knob like I did. Also, I could not get the 3/8" hex screw the goes into the mounting slot to go in all the way. Same problem with the centering mounting bolt.

Terry

Edited by Bluto69 (05/22/13 10:52 PM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5881742 - 05/24/13 08:21 AM

I got mine setup and began aligning and wouldnt you know some clouds would cause probs? I did manage to get a few things done though.

The center wedge bolts on mine wernt gunked up. They were machined to tight tolerances forcing u to pay attention during installation. No biggie.

No prob w Az slo mo knob. I did see one of the hex screws are longer than others. I used the shorter for primary mount & longer one in conjunction with reg one and all fit fine w no probs.

One of the plastic screws on 8x50 for columnation was not just stripped but had practically no threads. Will need to contact Meade for another. Made do & was very gentle as not to jostle it once set.

Did one star polar for setup. Atmospheric was awful & polaris difficult even using iPad & software. What impressed me was Starlock. I did a goto Moon for my son & it auto recentered. Made me curious so i went to Regulus & it nailed it even after my less than precise setup attempts. It also took oportunity to recenter again. There are additional features to take this further but im still learning.

My wife & i set this up from unboxing to waiting for nightfall in a tad over 3 hours. I am VERY glad i went with 10". Theres no way id want to set this up alone. I could but i'd dread it. Easier & real quik with second pair of hands.

Wish this sleep stuff wouldnt get in way. I have worlds to explore!


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5881829 - 05/24/13 09:26 AM

I need to contact Meade! While out last night, my son was turning the scope to confirm the hard stops. On one side it "caught" on something just before one of the hard stops. Then while turning to the other hard stop it "caught" again at the center point. Feels like it is hitting something loose in the base. A little P.O.'d right now.

Terry

Edited by Bluto69 (05/24/13 09:55 AM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5882181 - 05/24/13 12:22 PM

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One of the plastic screws on 8x50 for columnation was not just stripped but had practically no threads. Will need to contact Meade for another. Made do & was very gentle as not to jostle it once set.




I had the exact same issue with my finder scope. Plastic screw was completely stripped. Luckily I had a spare set from a very old Meade scope replaced them all with the old set and they worked like a champ.

Unfortunately I've had nothing but clouds and rain since I took delivery. I agree with you I'm happy I went with the 10" rather than a 12". There are nights I will have to setup by myself that is of course if these clouds will ever leave.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: DrOxygen]
      #5882400 - 05/24/13 02:04 PM

Just put up a few pic's in hopes it could help someone out. They're located here:

http://www.skyvikings.com/lx600/


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5882596 - 05/24/13 03:56 PM

What are the blue things on the arms? Can the arms come apart so they can be lengthened with spacers?

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Starhawk]
      #5882610 - 05/24/13 04:04 PM

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What are the blue things on the arms? Can the arms come apart so they can be lengthened with spacers?

-Rich



Heh, yes and no. They are flange plates that let you separate the scope from the base. No you don't want to put spacers in there. Increasing the moment arm on the RA axis probably wouldn't be a good idea.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Mike7Mak]
      #5882817 - 05/24/13 06:13 PM

I can see where it could be done but I don't see anything within the instructions regarding doing it. Besides, it's not THAT hairy putting it on the wedge by yourself, (which is the only reason I can figure someone would do it). It can be done...I just don't want to. I'll go find help. It would also elongate setup time.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5886139 - 05/26/13 07:56 PM

I see in the apendix that there is a section regarding seperating the scope from the forks. It does suggest breakdown if weight presents a problem.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5886178 - 05/26/13 08:23 PM

I have separated the forks a couple of times. Don't Luke that you can lock one of the OTA forks and not the other. The unlocked fork swings freely. Handles OK but I would prefer both forks could lock.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5888669 - 05/28/13 10:40 AM

Terry,

I agree I need to separate the forks for setup and breakdown. It's precarious when one fork is locked and the other swings freely. Makes it a bit more difficult when lining up the pins. Each time I use it there are a few improvements that I find could be made.


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: DrOxygen]
      #5888711 - 05/28/13 11:07 AM

Regarding the x-wedge. Has anyone had trouble with latitude control when doing a polar alignment. I finally got some sky to play with and when I was mechanically centering Polaris I turned the latitude control knob and it practically spun off in my hand. It pushed the Meade logo sticker off and I removed it and saw that the nut was not holding the knob firmly on and allowing it to move. I suppose I'll have to remove it completely and put some thread locker on it. I used a pair of channel lock pliers, (with cushion) on the backup piece with the hex screw on it and was able to center Polaris and complete the alignment.

Anyone else experienced this yet?

FOLLOW UP:
Just spoke with Meade support and they suggested that I remove the nut completely and apply some thread locker and re-tighten. Will try that today and update.

Edited by Cryhav0c (05/28/13 11:15 AM)


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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5903838 - 06/05/13 12:37 PM

The problem I was having with the gears in the base of my LX600"catching" has prompted Meade to have me send it back for repair or replacement. I want to try to get out with it one last time this weekend before I ship it to Meade next week. The views through the OTA were just stunning. I love the way the Starlock is used for high precision pointing. The object is dead center or nearly so each time. I have not loaded the new firmware yet. Will wait until after I get the repaired base back. Then I will give doing my first ever PEC training a shot.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5906845 - 06/06/13 09:05 PM

Hi guys - just joined recently and saw this thread. Terry, I'm really sorry you're having such trouble with the scope. I too went with the 10" version (without the wedge - I'm noob enough already at this point without tackling AP!) and strained my back a bit when I put the darn thing on my JMI wheelie bar earlier this week. The added height makes a bit of difference lifting the sucker. I agree the Starlock was dead on but I've had the thing for over 10 days now and the weather has been miserable here in NE Wisconsin so only one somewhat lousy night out so far (very mediocre first light ).

Clear skies to all (hope springs eternal),
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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Plasticos Jim]
      #5907673 - 06/07/13 10:26 AM

At least I know Wisconsin has 2 LX600s now. :-). Hope full, Meade will go over my lower base with a fine toothed comb and make it run as smooth as butter. (I'm trying to think of other cliches to put in but none come to mind.)
What part of NE WI you at? I'm down by Mad City.

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Bluto69]
      #5907873 - 06/07/13 12:38 PM

Hey Terry,

Mine does move very smoothly either manually or motorized (albeit a bit loud) so hopefully the Meade gurus can straighten you out in short order. I'm up in Green Bay (go Pack go!).

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Plasticos Jim]
      #5907910 - 06/07/13 01:06 PM

Being from Appleton, all I can say is brrrrrrrr!

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Re: 10" LX600 being shipped new [Re: Cryhav0c]
      #5908146 - 06/07/13 03:19 PM

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Regarding the x-wedge. Has anyone had trouble with latitude control when doing a polar alignment. I finally got some sky to play with and when I was mechanically centering Polaris I turned the latitude control knob and it practically spun off in my hand. It pushed the Meade logo sticker off and I removed it and saw that the nut was not holding the knob firmly on and allowing it to move. I suppose I'll have to remove it completely and put some thread locker on it. I used a pair of channel lock pliers, (with cushion) on the backup piece with the hex screw on it and was able to center Polaris and complete the alignment.

Anyone else experienced this yet?

Same thing happened to me. I just gave up and manually pointed at a few objects and packed it in for the night. Had to get up for work early anyway. I did what you said Meade suggested and used some red thread lock and so far it been fine. Cloudy but fine.

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