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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Mike Wiles]
      #5615602 - 01/10/13 02:03 PM

I wouldn't mind hearing the likes of Dennis DiCicco and Sean Walker expound at length on processing. And they usually show up for NEAF, anyway.

Grant


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Mike Wiles]
      #5615620 - 01/10/13 02:15 PM

Very good Mike!

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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: terry59]
      #5615756 - 01/10/13 03:44 PM

yeah, i agree with everything Mike has said above. Getting some of those spanish guys would be great.

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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: pfile]
      #5615781 - 01/10/13 03:56 PM

+1 Mike summed it up for us Bob...Bob, hey Bob, are you listening to us ?

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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: avdhoeven]
      #5615796 - 01/10/13 04:05 PM

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What about the NASA/ESA imaging competition?





How nice to see my name passing by here I would think of:

Josef Popsl (capella observatories)
Robert Gendler
JPM
Adam Block
and many others...




But your win gives you the qualifications to be a speaker.

http://www.astro-photo.nl/deepsky/galaxies/messier-77-hst


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Mike Wiles]
      #5615877 - 01/10/13 04:52 PM

Mike,

I couldn't agree more...

Dan

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If you're trying to select speakers...I'd be more interested in the topics than in the presenter. What would get me interested? Some serious coverage of the PixInsight platform would get my attention. In terms of people: Juan Conejero, Manuel Jimenez, Vicent Peris, Carlos Milovic, Rogelio Bernal Andreo, Steve Leshin.

Juan Conejero is a walking encyclopedia of image processing knowledge and he communicates his knowledge extremely well - at least in a written format. His support posts over in the PixInsight forum are typically mini-lessons all by themself and do a good job of putting complex processing concepts into laymen's terms.

I wouldn't mind seeing some presentations on using our equipment for stuff other than pretty pictures. Lowell Observatory has a bunch of people who can talk on pro-am collaboration. Tim Puckett of Apogee is extremely personable and has some knowledge in this area as well.

I'd be really interested in a speaker who's doing some great astrophotography with mortal equipment. $250,000 of gear and a mountain top location and I expect you to turn out APOD quality work every time you boot up the laptop. Show me a guy who's doing it on a blue collar budget with say....less than $10k of equipment.

In the same sort of vein....find me a speaker that can talk about setting up a remote site....without having to spend huge cash to do it. Show me how to put my $20k imaging rig somewhere dark and remote in a permanent arrangement that doesn't require me to break open the kids college funds to pay for it.

What would I not be interested in? Going to see a speaker who's going to talk about all the same curves, high pass filters, clipping masks and other stuff that I can get from dozens of online tutorials.

That's just my rapidly depreciating 2 cents....

Mike




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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Dan Crowson]
      #5616216 - 01/10/13 08:29 PM

Warren Keller is becoming an expert at Pixinsight and has produced the first in depth series on how to use it. Before I knew Warren, his tutorials helped me understand a very difficult learning curve. I would agree Juan is outstanding, but why fly someone from Spain when you have great teachers here? Maybe Mike hasn't seen Warren's tutorials on Pix?

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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: vpcirc]
      #5616235 - 01/10/13 08:41 PM

A few I haven't seen mentioned:
Jay GaBany
Tony Hallas
Russell Croman


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Dean]
      #5616528 - 01/11/13 12:01 AM

Wow! great response! Big W, Johhny Paglioli is on my list, I'm not sure of the cost to get him but you know me, if I can, I will.

Andre, we have had Robert Gendler,( and will again this year)we have also had JPM,and Adam Block.

Sedat, I'll look in to Manuel Jimenez and no! i'm not listening to you because your not coming this year.

Mike, I hear you 100% and I try to do just that but it gets tuff. I had Vicent Peris two years ago do a pix talk. and this year we will be doing an extensive Pix program. I'm also trying to get someone from the Gimp team to do a talk on Gimp. As for the pro-am collaboration side of things for the last 6 years we have many science talks that included Tim Puckett (supernovae), Mike Peoples (comets),Brian D. Warner, (minor planets) Steve Howell ( XO's )and many others.

Grant, we have had Dennis DiCicco and Sean Walker meny times.

Dean, Jay GaBany and tony have both spoke many times, Tony just last year and Russell Croman is retired from speaking.

Please keep them coming

Edited by Bob Moore (01/11/13 12:07 AM)


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Bob Moore]
      #5616575 - 01/11/13 01:03 AM

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Sedat, I'll look in to Manuel Jimenez and no! i'm not listening to you because your not coming this year.




Bob, it all depends how seductive you can get If you can put a nice Pixinsight team together I may change my mind.

Thanks


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Mike Wiles]
      #5616656 - 01/11/13 04:03 AM

Mike Wiles - totally agree, would not describe it better
what matters (from my point of view) is that a lecture should inspire people to do some amazing work instead of some bore talk on things easily found on the Internet one click away...
I would give one name though - Mischa Schirmer and his presentation from CEDIC 2011


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Bob Moore]
      #5616657 - 01/11/13 04:04 AM

Hi-

I have attended NEAF many times, but never attended the imaging conference. I would be more interested in raw sub-exposures than final images because all final images are based on sub-exposures and their quality is important to everyone. But when it comes to processing, there are different tastes regarding how much one is willing to alter the pixels to produce the final image. And the processing/artistic phase involves a skill set that is separate from those needed to acquire good sub-exposures in the first place.

So instead of just asking for the best "imagers" I would break it down into the separate skills of taking the best sub-exposures with given equipment, and then processing those sub-exposures into a nice image. And the latter can be further broken down based on allowed processing methods - such as masks or any non-global operation that selectively alters the pixels for artistic impact.

I'm not saying any of this is bad - I'm just saying it might be helpful break the imaging process into parts, and to define categories where different processing techniques are allowed. That would be more interesting to me, anyway.

Frank


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: freestar8n]
      #5616923 - 01/11/13 09:42 AM

Sedat, we are going to at least 3 hours on Pix this year. if that helps a little,

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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Bob Moore]
      #5617067 - 01/11/13 11:15 AM

Don't know him at all but Ivan Eder does some amazing work with a Canon and a Newt.

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Re: Pol: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: JWalk]
      #5617088 - 01/11/13 11:30 AM

Rats - guess I missed the years Dennis and/or Sean were doing presentations on how to acquire and/or process one's own DS images. I recall Sean and maybe Dennis on some other topic, but not specifically this.

I have to agree with Frank. I'm one of those people at the point where I feel I'm "90% there" just through reading and personal trial and error. There are likely improvements I can make to both the acquisition process and the post-processing - it would be really cool to have some people who've managed that last 10% and are willing to share it. This is true of planetary as well as deep sky. I was disappointed with Chris Go's talk last year - he hardly went into any processing specifics at all.

Grant


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Re: Pol: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: RedLionNJ]
      #5617355 - 01/11/13 02:19 PM

Hi
Juan from Pixinsight writes very well in English , but his spoken English is very poor ( His words ), so doubt he would ever do this sort of thing
You will need to get Warren there on Pixinsight

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Re: Poll: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Bob Moore]
      #5617457 - 01/11/13 03:23 PM

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Hi all I'm starting to put together speakers for NEAIC 2013 and I was wondering who you all think the top five are. Please post names and any other contact info you may have..

Bob



NASA. Anyone dare to compete with the Hubble telescope? Such a poll would not make any sense without putting a limit on the dollar amount.


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Re: Poll: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Alph]
      #5617497 - 01/11/13 03:54 PM

My Friend Mark Hanson is doing amazing work...

http://www.btlguce.com/


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: Mike Wiles]
      #5617617 - 01/11/13 05:17 PM

I agree with Mike's comments, particularly:

Quote:

If you're trying to select speakers...I'd be more interested in the topics than in the presenter.

<snip>

I'd be really interested in a speaker who's doing some great astrophotography with mortal equipment.





From Bob Moore's perspective, he's looking at speakers for the NEAIC audience. This excellent CN CCD forum is filled with intermediate-to-advanced imagers, but beginning imagers who attend NEAIC may still be struggling with the earlier part of the learning curve ... a compelling speaker who can demystify the basics could be attractive to them.

And another vote for Warren from me.

Cheers,
Adam


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Re: Pole: Who are the best 5 deep sky imagers in the w new [Re: soreneck]
      #5617634 - 01/11/13 05:34 PM

I just started 2,5 years ago with imaging using some basic equipment and I fully agree with soreneck. It's very interesting to see what people are doing with basic equipment. The $20000+ images are inspiring, but what can you reach with let's say $5000 equipment (incl. camera's etc.)? I think much more than you would think. I just mention last year that I detected my first exoplanet with a basic CCD camera and a C11. These kind of things are inspiring I guess. Unfortunately the NEAIF is too far away from me, but I would love to hear the speakers some day that I see mentioned here, but also some fellow 'beginners' that show what they reach, because that gives a realistic view for other beginners what to expect... Luckily we have the CEDIC here in Europe in March. I will certainly go there...

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