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clintwhitman
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: greju]
      #4436551 - 03/09/11 01:18 AM Attachment (47 downloads)

Here is my 1965 10" F8 I think Tom JR Signed it. Looks like his hand.

Edited by clintwhitman (03/09/11 01:24 AM)


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clintwhitman
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4436577 - 03/09/11 01:56 AM Attachment (46 downloads)

New mirror #1 6" F4 WFT M705556 23 7/8" FL Aug 1970 Presently just a mirror I found a few years ago.
Photo 1


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clintwhitman
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4436578 - 03/09/11 01:57 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

#1 6" F4 WFT M705556 23 7/8" FL Aug 1970 Presently just a mirror I found a few years ago.
Photo 2


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clintwhitman
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4436580 - 03/09/11 02:00 AM Attachment (38 downloads)

New mirror #2 8" F8 M693959 65 1/4" FL JAN 21st 1969 (Summer of Love Baby) Presently just a mirror I found a few years ago.
Photo 1


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clintwhitman
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4436584 - 03/09/11 02:03 AM Attachment (45 downloads)

#2 8" F8 M693959 65 1/4" FL JAN 21st 1969 (Summer of Love Baby) Presently just a mirror I found a few years ago.
Photo 2
Not the same hand signed these But they both came out of Cave optical, The original owner picked them up there.
(aveman


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greju
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4437608 - 03/09/11 02:14 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

Tom Cave Jr. signature. Best I could do with my very limited software.

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Dean Norris
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: greju]
      #4437788 - 03/09/11 03:33 PM Attachment (52 downloads)

Here's a reply I received from Cave back when I wanted to add rotating rings to my scope. As it turned out I waited to long to purchase and ended up buying rings from Metro Machining.

Hope this helps.

Dean


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Dean Norris
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: Dean Norris]
      #4437791 - 03/09/11 03:34 PM Attachment (48 downloads)

Close up of the signature.

Dean


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greju
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: Dean Norris]
      #4437987 - 03/09/11 05:16 PM

Almost surely not Caves signature. Bottom most notation confirms this. As has been said many times before Caves secretary most likely signed his correspondence.

"IDENTIFYING INITIALS: When someone other than the author types and finalizes a letter, it is customary to include a line indicating who performed this work. Show the initials of the writer of the letter in capital letters, followed by either a colon or forward-slash and the assistant's initials in lower case letters. For example, RFH:sjs or RFH/sjs."


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Lew Chilton
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: greju]
      #4438446 - 03/09/11 08:24 PM

Greju,

Is it possible that the secretary typed the letter and Tom Cave signed it - at least in some cases?

Tom Cave wrote many articles and made many planetary drawings of Mars, Saturn and Jupiter for the Strolling Astronomer, the publication of the Association of Lunar and Planetary Observers (ALPO). (You can go to their website.)

I'll bet someone has the back issues (like Jack Eastman) who could look for articles and drawings by TRC with his signature. Just a thought.

Edited by Lew Chilton (03/09/11 08:34 PM)


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tim53
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #4438524 - 03/09/11 09:11 PM

Dean and others:

Did anyone notice that the script in the signature that Dean posted is similar to the Cave logo? Particularly the capitol C, but even the rest of the word "cave" looks similar.

-Tim.


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greju
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: Lew Chilton]
      #4438546 - 03/09/11 09:20 PM

Lew, sure it is possible but the notation at the bottom of the letter usually signifies someone other than the signee actually composed and signed the letter. As far as a signature accompanying his drawings, that is what I posted.

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doublestar
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: greju]
      #4438601 - 03/09/11 09:47 PM Attachment (38 downloads)

This signature was done on the bottom of a customer supplied form that requested Cave to reply as to status of order and sign. I don't know for sure that it is Cave's signature, but there is no secretary initials on this one, even though they could have been added since the response was typed.

I have a few other letters, but like others above, have the secretary initials.


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greju
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: tim53]
      #4438648 - 03/09/11 10:05 PM Attachment (47 downloads)

Tim, could you post a picture of what logo you are referring to? This is the one I have.

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PiSigma
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: greju]
      #4438655 - 03/09/11 10:09 PM Attachment (37 downloads)

Gregg - is that 'tidbit' from John S.? I don't have that mirror in the registry.

At the end of it all maybe this doesn't really matter. I think the penmanship of someone scribing a mirror with a diamond engraver is probably going to look a bit different than that same person writing on a sheet of paper with a pen. I hope we can figure out which mirrors were signed/made by Tom Cave Jr. and others and this might be a factor to consider.

On the block lettered mirrors who knows? Unless someone who was there at the time says "this is my engraving" or "this is how so-and-so engraved them" we will probably never know.

I did a little different processing on that Tom Cave Jr. signature from the Mars drawings. Maybe this is a little better.


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PiSigma
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #4438660 - 03/09/11 10:12 PM

Clint,

Thanks for the additional mirrors.

I hope you are right on M651485 - my 10" f/6, M716851, is engraved in the same style.

It is odd that M705556 does not have the day in the date, only AUG 1970.


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PiSigma
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: Dean Norris]
      #4438671 - 03/09/11 10:16 PM

Dean - thanks. Another secretary, "g", and another signature style to add to the list.

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PiSigma
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: doublestar]
      #4438680 - 03/09/11 10:20 PM

Thanks doublestar - that one is rather different from all the rest in how the R rolls into the C in Cave.

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greju
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry new [Re: PiSigma]
      #4438701 - 03/09/11 10:27 PM

Jon, yes. And thanks for cleaning that up.

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PiSigma
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Re: Cave Mirror Registry [Re: PiSigma]
      #4438721 - 03/09/11 10:38 PM Attachment (40 downloads)

Here is an update to the registry. Additions/changes from the last one (first post in this thread) are highlighted in yellow. I've also added the date of the image at the top.

Interesting additions:

Gregg's M2004, which expands the range of the "early" no-year-in-the-serial-number mirrors.

L. Regira's M794070 which is now the highest one known and expands the total number by 39.

Clint's M705556, which is now the earliest block engraved mirror.

Total number of mirrors in the registry: 67.


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