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What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types?
      #5575069 - 12/17/12 01:04 AM

I popped in after seeing the "ALERT! Abandonded Scope Found" thread started. I would imagine it would be finding a Garden Scope. Am I right? I'm always hoping one turns up on "Antique Roadshow" or "American Pickers"...

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5575112 - 12/17/12 02:22 AM Attachment (75 downloads)

Holy Grail? I have found a couple of MY holy grails. This one fell out of the sky & I will never top. The Pearl 228mm F10.6 Nasa Glass AP one of one Roland built in the 1980s. Thanks to all my friends here that helped me in its restoration and completion efforts.
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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #5575113 - 12/17/12 02:24 AM Attachment (63 downloads)

After many hours of machining and design work the hands on end is nearing completion.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: clintwhitman]
      #5575235 - 12/17/12 06:28 AM Attachment (52 downloads)

hmmm Porter Garden scope or a treasure like the pearl? Neither are realistic finds here in Oz. I think it would have to be a large Fullerscopes or Broadhurst Clarkson long focus achromat. In the meantime I have my un-named victorian brass parlour telescope.

Edited by JonH (12/17/12 06:30 AM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: JonH]
      #5575257 - 12/17/12 07:09 AM

For me, it was/is my 4" Unitron. Something obtainable, but not all that easy to find a nice complete example of. I also like the older ones (circa 1960), and was lucky to find a 155 (w/2.4mm guidescope, sliding weight) about 300 miles from me. As an added bonus, my son lived about 60 miles from the scope so he was able to go with me to pick it up and then I stayed at his place overnight.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: sgorton99]
      #5575396 - 12/17/12 09:09 AM

One of our members on CN (sorry, can't remember his name) had a Porter Garden Scope at our NEAF classic telescope exhibit. It was impressive, as art. He said its great to look at, but not a great telescope.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bierbelly]
      #5575434 - 12/17/12 09:34 AM

I would love to have the C14 that Johhny Carson owned, how cool would that be?

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Zoomster]
      #5575715 - 12/17/12 01:17 PM

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I would love to have the C14 that Johhny Carson owned, how cool would that be?






For me, a C22 but the chances of (1) finding one over here and (2) having the cash to but it if I did and (3) getting it past the CFO means this will stay a pipe dream.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Masvingo]
      #5575721 - 12/17/12 01:22 PM

The Hale telescope on Mt. Palomar would be good.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Masvingo]
      #5575730 - 12/17/12 01:31 PM

Quote:

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I would love to have the C14 that Johhny Carson owned, how cool would that be?






For me, a C22 but the chances of (1) finding one over here and (2) having the cash to but it if I did and (3) getting it past the CFO means this will stay a pipe dream.

James




"I would love to have the C14 that Johhny Carson owned, how cool would that be?"

Johhny Carson was once asked if he wasn't in show bisness what he would do, he said he would do somsthing in Astronomy.

Alan O
PS: not sure how to post quotes.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Masvingo]
      #5575732 - 12/17/12 01:32 PM

For me, a Victorian reflector for our Victorian house... Like the one in Scotland. Except I doubt I could afford to get that here, assuming it were for sale and nobody there wanted it. (If any of these impressions are wrong, by all means let me know!)

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: tim53]
      #5575790 - 12/17/12 02:17 PM

a 6" unitron complete with 4" guidescope, metal pier. wieght drive and in mint condition.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Masvingo]
      #5575804 - 12/17/12 02:26 PM

Johnny Carsons 14 inch

http://loron91423.tripod.com/

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: StarWrangler]
      #5575880 - 12/17/12 03:19 PM

I already have that, my Cave 12.5" Astrola. But a questar would fit into the overhead bin on a plane a lot easier I guess.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: dgreyson]
      #5575889 - 12/17/12 03:26 PM

Holy Grail, eh? I am not much of a refractor dude, but I would still have to say a big Unitron or a Tasco 20TE (which I would rather have than a 4-inch Unitron Photo Equatorial). I guess it's a good thing I'm not in the position to afford or buy one. As Mr. Spock said, “After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.”



Edited by rmollise (12/17/12 03:27 PM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5575915 - 12/17/12 03:44 PM

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As Mr. Spock said, “After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.”






I have found this to be true for most women. Except one. The one I am now dating.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5575929 - 12/17/12 03:55 PM

This:



A Barry Crist miniature 10" Cave would go nice in front of my miniature Christmas tree.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5575945 - 12/17/12 04:04 PM

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..... As Mr. Spock said, “After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.”






I wouldn't agree with Mr. Spock, for me, the wanting to the acquiring period took 26 years from my first view through a Q7.
I am very pleased, except for the ensuing horrible weather we've experienced all year. Seems like a telescope here in the UK, gets about as much use as a surfboard in the desert.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Mike E.]
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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Mike E.]
      #5575973 - 12/17/12 04:21 PM

A 4 inch Unitron Photo Equatorial on the Unitron pier with the falling weight drive and 3 inch guide scope, beneath an Ash Dome in my own home's rooftop observatory entered by a spiral staircase.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5576113 - 12/17/12 05:48 PM

See first picture in this thread:

http://www.cloudynights.com/ubbthreads/showflat.php?Cat=0&Board=atm&N...

JimC


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Mirzam]
      #5576133 - 12/17/12 05:59 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

i found mine and powdercoated it mystic purple

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5576171 - 12/17/12 06:19 PM

Quote:

Quote:

As Mr. Spock said, “After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.”






I have found this to be true for most women. Except one. The one I am now dating.




Ah, but even women can be fun to collect (Parker runs and ducks).

-Tim.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: tim53]
      #5576212 - 12/17/12 06:35 PM

They are more expensive than telescopes. Can only afford so many.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5576510 - 12/17/12 10:09 PM Attachment (30 downloads)

I second dgreyson...finished my Grail quest three months ago with my Cave Astrola 12.5"!

John


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: rmollise]
      #5576543 - 12/17/12 10:26 PM Attachment (28 downloads)

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Holy Grail, eh? I am not much of a refractor dude, but I would still have to say a big Unitron or a Tasco 20TE (which I would rather have than a 4-inch Unitron Photo Equatorial). I guess it's a good thing I'm not in the position to afford or buy one. As Mr. Spock said, “After a time, you may find that having is not so pleasing a thing, after all, as wanting. It is not logical, but it is often true.”




Yeah I'd have to agree with you Rod. It does seem that Unitrons especially 4" ones are about a dime a dozen anymore. But these Tasco 20TE's are rarer than hen's teeth. Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5577616 - 12/18/12 05:23 PM

As a strict traditionalist I never thought I would approve of a purple Unitron but that 131 you have Mr. Akman sir, is mighty pretty

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5577646 - 12/18/12 05:51 PM

A Cave 12 or 12.5 inch reflector ,see johns photo above, in working order, fully restored and ready to rock the Universe.
And did I mention I want it willed or donated to me, hehehehehehehehe


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5578026 - 12/18/12 10:23 PM

If I were only looking for something to collect and admire I think I'd like a nice clean and complete 3" equatorial Unitron. Luckily my pretty 3" Eikow is a fair substitute.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Joe Bergeron]
      #5578120 - 12/18/12 11:16 PM

just an Alvan clark, Any Alvan Clark

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5578370 - 12/19/12 04:09 AM Attachment (19 downloads)

Well my Holy Grail was the Orange Classic C14 I have, but it wont fit under the tree, so I would be more then willing to have a sears 6345 90mm refractor adorned with bows and ribbon under my tree

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bob midiri]
      #5578740 - 12/19/12 11:12 AM

Orange Classic C14
Now that is what I am talking about.

Big Size yet Compact!

Alan O

Edited by StarWrangler (12/19/12 11:14 AM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: StarWrangler]
      #5578745 - 12/19/12 11:15 AM

Me? it's got to be an early tri-color!

-Tim.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: tim53]
      #5578808 - 12/19/12 11:53 AM

let me get out the spray paint

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5580088 - 12/20/12 05:09 AM

Me?

I see lots of neat ideas and lots of neat scopes... Alvan Clark, any 19th Century scope... It would be wonderful to just look at one closely and even look through it for a while...

But when push comes to shove, a telescope, new or old, needs to work for me under the night sky and long focal length achromats are not well suited for doing the things I like to do... If I had a Clark, it would be more of a museum piece and I am not much of a curator.

I like larger Newtonians, my 12.5 inch F/6 Meade RG covers that area. In refractor land, it would have to be a Astro-Physics Traveler. Not an old classic but certainly a classic from many standpoints...

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Jon Isaacs]
      #5580119 - 12/20/12 06:16 AM

My two top picks would be a 5" Unitron or a Cave 16" F/8 on the Observatory mount.

Chas


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: CHASLX200]
      #5580137 - 12/20/12 06:48 AM

My pick would be a 4" Unitron on its pier mount and clock drive. It would be just like the one I used in high school thanks to a person I met by chance and he said that I could use it any time I wanted to since he didn't use it that much anymore. It was in its own observatory on his property.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ham Radio]
      #5580452 - 12/20/12 11:13 AM

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My pick would be a 4" Unitron on its pier mount and clock drive. It would be just like the one I used in high school thanks to a person I met by chance and he said that I could use it any time I wanted to since he didn't use it that much anymore. It was in its own observatory on his property.


And.........?? Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5580545 - 12/20/12 12:03 PM

Used to schedule observing time at Space Telescope, got to pick many public release shots.. I would consider ST a classic. The OTA and mirror are from the 70's.. If ST isn't a holy grail, what is? Used to use a 6" Brashear in college that was a really nice scope.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bremms]
      #5580553 - 12/20/12 12:08 PM

I really like long focus Newts. say a 12.5" F8.. wait I already have a mirror. Just need to start a design. Probably a homemade alt-az with tracking at least. Driven with servo motors. Love to make a stout equatorial.. We'll see.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bremms]
      #5580563 - 12/20/12 12:23 PM

The 100" Hooker.
I don't need to own it I just want to use it to explore the heavens for the rest of my life.

I'll just park a single wide in the back and I'll be as quiet as a church mouse.

Robert


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: actionhac]
      #5580638 - 12/20/12 12:57 PM

The Lick 120" is a really handsome telescope. The 36 inch refractor there is such a nice instrument. The building has the smell of old wood and grease. It gave me a wonderful sensation.
The road up there is a wicked drive, never got to do it in a really capable car or bike.

Edited by bremms (12/20/12 12:59 PM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bremms]
      #5580803 - 12/20/12 02:33 PM Attachment (31 downloads)

This one still does it for me.

Edited by Ziggy943 (12/20/12 02:33 PM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: actionhac]
      #5580810 - 12/20/12 02:37 PM

amen to the Hundred inch

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Laz]
      #5581404 - 12/20/12 08:31 PM

Never seen the Hooker in person, but it was areal feat back in the teen's. Plate glass mirror with lots of bubbles.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5581496 - 12/20/12 09:33 PM Attachment (24 downloads)

You guys might laugh, but I'm a simple man. Hanging in and around these parts (this forum) for some years now, I'd always been intrigued with the 60mm f20's that popped up from time to time - but with nowhere near the regularity of many other more "mainstream" classic Japanese refractors.

It may not be the Holy Grail, but when I scored an SPI f20 earlier this year, I sure felt like I'd found it.

Like I said, I'm a simple man...


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: desertrefugee]
      #5581521 - 12/20/12 09:53 PM

Darrell; thats one fine looking scope man.......

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5581524 - 12/20/12 09:54 PM

Ziggy; oh my thats a gorgeous scope, whats the diameter???

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5581700 - 12/20/12 11:46 PM Attachment (24 downloads)

A 16" Criterion Dynascope would be interesting! (or the 12.5" or 10" in that order.) I suspect that I'll still be happy with my RV-6 (second from the right below) even after the telescope fairy delivers the 16" though

Regards, Jason W. Higley


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: droid]
      #5581712 - 12/21/12 12:00 AM

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Ziggy; oh my thats a gorgeous scope, whats the diameter???




It's the 9" Clark in my sig line.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5581866 - 12/21/12 04:37 AM

Ziggy!!

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5582040 - 12/21/12 08:31 AM

And then I went into the Air Force, lost interest, moved to Ca. and then back here to Mn. and got back into astronomy. Now I have to see if I can find out what happened to it!

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5582271 - 12/21/12 10:52 AM

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This one still does it for me.




I imagine setting that up at a remote site requires some determination!


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Jason H.]
      #5582314 - 12/21/12 11:27 AM

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A 16" Criterion Dynascope would be interesting! (or the 12.5" or 10" in that order.) I suspect that I'll still be happy with my RV-6 (second from the right below) even after the telescope fairy delivers the 16" though

Regards, Jason W. Higley




Jason awesome!! Hey can i borrow your picture to prove to my wife that I ain't as nuts as she thinks with all my scopes!!!


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5582330 - 12/21/12 11:35 AM

Ziggy,

Fantastic Scope!

I really love that Byers Mount, What year is it?

I still have my 1070's 6 inch full dia Byers drive.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: kfiscus]
      #5582340 - 12/21/12 11:39 AM

The legendary 8" Vega Mak Newt

Hey Bierbelly, you having a garage sale anytime soon?


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: StarWrangler]
      #5582372 - 12/21/12 12:03 PM

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Ziggy,

Fantastic Scope!

I really love that Byers Mount, What year is it?

I still have my 1070's 6 inch full dia Byers drive.


Alan O.




My friend Brent W. and I got the first two production models. I think it was 1982.


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Ziggy!!




Clint,

When are you bringing the Pearl to Utah? And don't say right after I bring the Clark to Mnt. Pinos. I would love to see our scopes side by side. What a photo-op that would be.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5582409 - 12/21/12 12:25 PM

Wow!...That is the Holy Grail indeed.

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      #5582450 - 12/21/12 12:42 PM

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The legendary 8" Vega Mak Newt

Hey Bierbelly, you having a garage sale anytime soon?




Well lets see, I'm 58 now and none of my kids would appreciate it...


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This one still does it for me.




I imagine setting that up at a remote site requires some determination!




Setting it up anywhere requires some determination!


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      #5582462 - 12/21/12 12:49 PM

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This one still does it for me.




I imagine setting that up at a remote site requires some determination!




Setting it up anywhere requires some determination!




Like a crane?


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5582543 - 12/21/12 01:51 PM

Wow Ziggy,

The "first two production models"

That has to be a true Classic.

I am Jealous.

Enjoy,

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      #5582678 - 12/21/12 03:26 PM

I was recently at a Christmas party and somebody asked me how many scopes I had, when I told them a woman then asked "And how does your wife feel about that?", I told her that "she doesn't let any of them in the house" (the dwelling space that is), then I mistakenly told the woman "I probably could get by with only around 5 of them, as each one has a different use, short focal length for deep space objects, long focal length for planets, small ones for portability etc.

Then after chatting awhile she dissappeared, and I was actually sort of let down that she didn't say goodbye by the time I was leaving; later on I knew why, she divulged to my better half that I only needed 5 telescopes, and I could get rid of the rest. No wonder she ducked me out

Anyway, looking at the picture, I won't feel bad about purging the junk and eventually get it down to 5, 6 or 7'ish, I guess

Best wishes on your attempted picture showing ,
Jason W. Higley

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A 16" Criterion Dynascope would be interesting! (or the 12.5" or 10" in that order.) I suspect that I'll still be happy with my RV-6 (second from the right below) even after the telescope fairy delivers the 16" though

Regards, Jason W. Higley




Jason awesome!! Hey can i borrow your picture to prove to my wife that I ain't as nuts as she thinks with all my scopes!!!




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      #5582739 - 12/21/12 04:08 PM

OMG! Jason, thank you so much for sharing. Now I no longer feel that I have a problem, a dirty little secret, an obsessive collection. I was beginning to think that my getting up to 12 telescopes several weeks ago was going to cause me to have to join a 12 step program like telescope collectors anonymous

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
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After 40 odd years I found up my Holy Grail scope. The rare Yamamoto 108 mm F/15. [Same OTA as the Tasco 20TE].
Mint condition, the optics and build qualities are very high and it is just a piece of optical art


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      #5582972 - 12/21/12 06:16 PM

Ziggy is this yours?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mC6MRDQGms


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: charen]
      #5583003 - 12/21/12 06:41 PM

Wow! Where did you find that? Did you have to restore it?

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: charen]
      #5583019 - 12/21/12 06:54 PM

Charen very nice indeed. I can't remember if you have used it enough to get good seeing for an evaluation of your optics. Really does look new. It needs to share an observatory with another larger instrrument. If it's anything close to my lens it is an arse kicker that's for sure! Did Horiguchi or Carton make these lenses or don't you know? Can you by chance show a pic of the objective lens? Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: charen]
      #5583092 - 12/21/12 07:31 PM

Gorgeous scope! Very sleek lines. I love it.

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Thank's. I basically brought is as it is shown. I did some minor cleaning of the chrome but it really is as 'new'. I have used it over the past 2x months or so since acquiring it. The lens is by Horiguchi. The lens is very well figured with excellent light transmission and no zonal errors. The Star tests are perfect. It takes magnifications in the 150x - 240x range well. I have gone to 300x but it starts to dim then. It excels as a planetary / lunar scope. CA is primarily minimal, when above 200x there is some minor color fringing on the moon's limb / Sirius etc. but it is not overly distracting. It has the collimating lens cell. It has the 1.25mm focuser. The 50mm finder gives excellent images itself. The lens was mint when I got it I have not even touched the lens and never will. It is heavy at around 170lbs + and it reaches 9ft.+ when getting towards the zenith. I move it in 2x parts relatively easily still. It cost me the equivalent of $US1500 which really is a bargain. A once in a lifetime acquisition. Even my wife likes it and she even let's me keep it in the living room !

Chris

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: charen]
      #5583555 - 12/22/12 03:21 AM

Next you'll say those are original Modiglianis on your wall.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: charen]
      #5583559 - 12/22/12 03:30 AM

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Lens




That is a stunning scope, there is one for sale here in the UK its a 101 f16 Yamamoto, its on skylight telescopes sight


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: nightfisher]
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A few grails in here...

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      #5583865 - 12/22/12 11:01 AM Attachment (24 downloads)

Here's my choice and gosh, still have it after all these years!

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Lens


Hi Charen. As you can see the 20TE lens cell is an older version. I know for a fact that these lenses will easily support 400x on doubles like Castor and the Double Double. I've taken your viewpoint and also will never take the lens apart. Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: highertheflyer]
      #5583895 - 12/22/12 11:22 AM

Hi Jim. What a piece of work that scope is. What is the current status on your scope? I thought a year back or so you were going to sell it. If not any plans to permanently mount it in a personal back yard observatory. Would make a good partner with a larger newt maybe or maybe not. What's your take? Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5583915 - 12/22/12 11:30 AM

Jim,
That's a great looking Unitron. I always liked that turret. What sort of mount is that? I can't tell if its stock.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mattyfatz]
      #5584034 - 12/22/12 12:39 PM

Hi Mike and Matty.
It's the Unitron 510 on a field tripod with a 110 volt geared drive mounted on the yoke between the legs.
The nickle plating has worn from the control arm surfaces, but kinda nice since its patina reminds me of her age.
I once had dark bushy hair myself!
Was hoping to take it to NEAF last spring but realized the cost of transporting this 7 foot case, round trip, was pretty expensive.
And a new owner would need to move it to its new destination, and so would require lots of thought.
It does need a comfortable observatory tho, as it sits in an upper room, and I cannot muster a delivery profile towards convincing my wife that we need a roll off roof opening to the sky, in the ceiling, above it...
Was gonna move it downstairs to pose for photos with the Xmas tree, but decided it would be easier to move the tree upstairs for a brief photo shoot.
Alas, she wouldn't go for that either.
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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: highertheflyer]
      #5584366 - 12/22/12 05:02 PM

And a good choice it is Mr. Highflyer. I'd be mighty proud of that scope as I am sure you are. I never thought there was a more superb telescope as the Unitron 4 inch photo equatorial. It is a beauty. It would me my grail too.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5584539 - 12/22/12 07:08 PM

John Denvers Meade would be cool, Remember Rocky Mountain High? I've seen it raning fire from the sky.....
He wrote that song the morning after viewing a meteor shower
Not many know he was a major Astronomy fan


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I popped in after seeing the "ALERT! Abandonded Scope Found" thread started. I would imagine it would be finding a Garden Scope. Am I right? I'm always hoping one turns up on "Antique Roadshow" or "American Pickers"...




Garden telescopes do turn up. Here is a picture of my friends on the left which is #3 and the one I take care of which is #47. Number 47 is fully complete and one of only 3 or 4 that still have the optics and storage box. Another one, #54 was discovered just awhile back in a barn at Longwood Gardens in Chadsford PA. So keep looking !

Happy Holidays,
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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: DAVIDG]
      #5584699 - 12/22/12 09:01 PM

Wow Dave,

Garden telescopes!,

Now those are truly Classic super finds,


Alan O.

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Quote:

I popped in after seeing the "ALERT! Abandonded Scope Found" thread started. I would imagine it would be finding a Garden Scope. Am I right? I'm always hoping one turns up on "Antique Roadshow" or "American Pickers"...




Garden telescopes do turn up. Here is a picture of my friends on the left which is #3 and the one I take care of which is #47. Number 47 is fully complete and one of only 3 or 4 that still have the optics and storage box. Another one, #54 was discovered just awhile back in a barn at Longwood Gardens in Chadsford PA. So keep looking !

Happy Holidays,
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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: bierbelly]
      #5589593 - 12/26/12 12:00 PM

I remember someone selling reproduction garden scopes in their catalog some years ago- back when catalog sales were the big deal before the internet got big. I think they were 4 inchers. It may have been Orion or Nature Company? Anyone else remember those? Maybe 12-15 yrs ago?

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      #5589819 - 12/26/12 02:12 PM

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I remember someone selling reproduction garden scopes in their catalog some years ago- back when catalog sales were the big deal before the internet got big. I think they were 4 inchers. It may have been Orion or Nature Company? Anyone else remember those? Maybe 12-15 yrs ago?




Not even that old yet.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: droid]
      #5590112 - 12/26/12 06:35 PM

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Ziggy is this yours?????

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6mC6MRDQGms




WOW, how did you ever find that? Yes, that's me and my son setting it up. My brother did a lot of watching. First the mount early in the day and then later the scope. Thanks for finding that. I think that was 2010. It was in Bryce Canyon. I doubt very much I'll be bringing it there again.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5590251 - 12/26/12 08:21 PM

Just luck, I went to watch a video called " setting up the monster scope" ok, its a four inch, lol.
But off to the side was your video, so I clicked on it, watched it and thought " no way theres another blue scope that big" lol


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5590275 - 12/26/12 08:40 PM

That was an outfit called Telescopes of Vermont. I think the reproductions were priced at $59K.

Here's a link: http://gardentelescopes.com/


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: jjbird]
      #5591757 - 12/27/12 08:21 PM

There are many fine instruments here and a pleasure to look at too...May i offer my buy of a lifetime...a pier mounted 5" Unitron that was on display for decades & is pristene.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: highertheflyer]
      #5591766 - 12/27/12 08:27 PM Attachment (29 downloads)

Let's try this again...

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5591978 - 12/27/12 11:37 PM

some people just really enjoy showing off

Beuatiful scope


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5592402 - 12/28/12 10:26 AM

That is gorgeous! Have you ever had it out under the stars? The field tripod must be massive.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: terraclarke]
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Alas Terra i'll likely never look through this one as it weighs 300 lbs..my goal was to keep it preserved as it has been for 40+ years..it's never been outside in its life!..

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5593348 - 12/28/12 09:03 PM

Maybe you could remodle the house so you can use it. That way it will stay safely inside.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: starman876]
      #5594355 - 12/29/12 12:59 PM

Will808, That seems a shame. That telescope should see planet light.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5594426 - 12/29/12 01:31 PM

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Will808, That seems a shame. That telescope should see planet light.


And double star light too I might add. Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5594610 - 12/29/12 03:21 PM

IMHO, you owe it to yourself to use it at least once. Carpe diem!

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      #5594644 - 12/29/12 03:49 PM

I agree and Jupiter would be magnificent. Perhaps someone nearby has a more portable mount yet sturdy mount and you two could get together and take a peek. I couldn't stand always looking at it and never looking through it. It would be like Odysseus and the Sirens. It would call to me each dark clear night.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: jjbird]
      #5594653 - 12/29/12 03:57 PM

Holy Grail is any Alvin Clark or Brashear or Metz scope.

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You know i've had this nearly 2 years now and have been considering getting it out at least once too...i do have a 4" Unitron and a 6" Meade on the deck for regular use but would like to see it in use....i'll consider it!...Happy New Year all,Will.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5594937 - 12/29/12 07:17 PM

Yeah Will and when you get ready to sell it you'll have plenty of anectdotal evidence that the images will command the biggest dollars possible!! Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5595031 - 12/29/12 07:53 PM

Reminds me of a very large animal in a very small cage - better watch out or it might turn on you...

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5596518 - 12/30/12 04:39 PM

Hey Will, beautiful shot of your scope and backyard. Those skies are beautiful! What state are you located, ? (or country)

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Dr Morbius]
      #5596742 - 12/30/12 06:58 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

We are in the mountains of northern Va...about 40 miles SW of Wash DC actually...a real backwater this community is Doctor!...take care all,Will.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5596772 - 12/30/12 07:15 PM

I had a 5" Unitron back in the 80's and it was a massive job to set it up. Mine had the tripod with 3" guidescope. Just insane that i sold it for so cheap back then.

Chas


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5597210 - 12/31/12 12:15 AM

Will, those scopes really are absolutely gorgeous - you should be very proud. By the way, what's that little guy there on the floor behind the globe?

Bill


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5597313 - 12/31/12 02:10 AM

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Alas Terra i'll likely never look through this one as it weighs 300 lbs..my goal was to keep it preserved as it has been for 40+ years..it's never been outside in its life!..




Tremendous scope, Will - congratulations. Your goal is an admirable one indeed but why can't you have your cake and eat it too? It's New Years - live it up. Mount that gorgeous pedestal on a nice and stable rolling platform. Remove the OTA when moving it around of course. Get a pal to help roll it safely over any door sills and you're in business. You gotta look through that thing.

Good luck.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: albert1]
      #5597801 - 12/31/12 11:42 AM

my "holy gral" is the Zeiss APQ 130/1000

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikesemmler]
      #5597872 - 12/31/12 12:19 PM

My Holy Grail is a 6" Alvan Clark refractor.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Dan /schechter]
      #5597946 - 12/31/12 01:10 PM

I'm not too particular. Any pier mounted, wieght driven Unitron. 4", 5", 6", doesn't matter.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Dr Morbius]
      #5598237 - 12/31/12 03:48 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

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Holy Grail is any Alvin Clark or Brashear or Metz scope.




Alvin Clark didn't make telescopes.

Edited by Ziggy943 (12/31/12 03:59 PM)


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5598253 - 12/31/12 03:57 PM

Wow ... that is pretty ... you gotta look through it man.

Bob


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: kansas skies]
      #5598521 - 12/31/12 06:30 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

Bill that is the scope that started it all...i earned it by selling greeting cards door to door in the mid 1960's..remember when kids could do that?..it's a 30x40 on a table tripod with a cemented achromat and hard to use but i first saw craters on the moon through it when i was 12 yrs old and still can recall that moment very well as i gasped & still do sometimes....btw i forgot to mention that my initial photo is in a new book by Neil English titled Classic Telescopes,he contacted me last year & i readily agreed to have it published...he cleaned the pic up too and it looks better than it does here,i was pleased & was giving them out as Christmas presents!..look at me!...HaHaHa...Happy New Years Eve everyone...one last pic showing the 5" in the foreground and the 4" in the back...take care Will Thornton.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5598540 - 12/31/12 06:40 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Holy Grail is any Alvin Clark or Brashear or Metz scope.




Alvin Clark didn't make telescopes.


Yeah even I remember that! Alvin was the chipmunk. Correct? Mike

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5598542 - 12/31/12 06:41 PM Attachment (12 downloads)

Wow!! Will..very nice Unitron telescopes and THANKS for sharing. john..my compact pale's in comparison.. very nice!!!

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: gelkin]
      #5598584 - 12/31/12 07:06 PM

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I'm not too particular. Any pier mounted, wieght driven Unitron. 4", 5", 6", doesn't matter.




Gerald and I pretty much have the same Holy Grail.


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: CHASLX200]
      #5598671 - 12/31/12 08:06 PM

Chas i remember putting this together as getting the mount to chest level was a real struggle with two of us wrestling with it...this is where most of the 300 lbs are as you know...Will.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5598891 - 12/31/12 11:11 PM

I'm a blessed man! I already got my Holy Grail!

To those who have joined this forum after 2008, here's the link to the heartwarming story in the CN archives:

The Unitron Comes Back Home


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: will808]
      #5599021 - 01/01/13 01:20 AM

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Bill that is the scope that started it all...i earned it by selling greeting cards door to door in the mid 1960's..remember when kids could do that?..it's a 30x40 on a table tripod with a cemented achromat and hard to use but i first saw craters on the moon through it when i was 12 yrs old and still can recall that moment very well as i gasped & still do sometimes....btw i forgot to mention that my initial photo is in a new book by Neil English titled Classic Telescopes,he contacted me last year & i readily agreed to have it published...he cleaned the pic up too and it looks better than it does here,i was pleased & was giving them out as Christmas presents!..look at me!...HaHaHa...Happy New Years Eve everyone...one last pic showing the 5" in the foreground and the 4" in the back...take care Will Thornton.




Just keeps getting better with every new picture... However, that poor little fellow must feel like he's stuck in the land of the giants...

Bill


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Preston Smith]
      #5599085 - 01/01/13 03:23 AM

Preston? is that you making an appearance?..he he..HAPPY New YEARS!! john

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: mikey cee]
      #5600168 - 01/01/13 07:17 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Quote:

Holy Grail is any Alvin Clark or Brashear or Metz scope.




Alvin Clark didn't make telescopes.


Yeah even I remember that! Alvin was the chipmunk. Correct? Mike




Correct


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5600307 - 01/01/13 08:48 PM

ALVIN!!

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: akman1955]
      #5600410 - 01/01/13 10:01 PM

Just trying to do my part.

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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: Ziggy943]
      #5601529 - 01/02/13 04:21 PM

My new Astro-Physics 152 f12 Superplanetary is my Holy Grail. I would wait for AstroFest in order to look through the one that showed up there.

Mark


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Re: What's the Holy Grail for you Classic Forum types? new [Re: DAVIDG]
      #5601536 - 01/02/13 04:24 PM

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I popped in after seeing the "ALERT! Abandonded Scope Found" thread started. I would imagine it would be finding a Garden Scope. Am I right? I'm always hoping one turns up on "Antique Roadshow" or "American Pickers"...




Garden telescopes do turn up. Here is a picture of my friends on the left which is #3 and the one I take care of which is #47. Number 47 is fully complete and one of only 3 or 4 that still have the optics and storage box. Another one, #54 was discovered just awhile back in a barn at Longwood Gardens in Chadsford PA. So keep looking !

Happy Holidays,
- Dave





Garden Telescopes! Those are CRAZY!!! I saw one at NEAf at Preston's classics Exhibit..I believe it was Peter B.'s

Wow 2 of them.

Good for you David.

Mark


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