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bluestar
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how to store vintage eyepieces
      #5752792 - 03/23/13 09:43 PM

I've been accumulating old eyepieces and am looking for ideas on long term storage. Most did not come with tubes, caps or bolt cases. I do intend to use these on occasion, but do not plan on dis-assembly for internal study.

How do you store yours??


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: bluestar]
      #5752824 - 03/23/13 09:56 PM

Ziplock baggies - really!

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Datapanic]
      #5752870 - 03/23/13 10:20 PM

102 shot glass case

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5753005 - 03/23/13 11:37 PM

I use baggies too, in an aluminum case, but I use all of mine pretty regularly.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: bluestar]
      #5753029 - 03/23/13 11:50 PM

You can send all your unused eyepieces to me and I will properly store them for you!



Seriously, good quality ziplock bags can serve you well. Acid free tissue paper and a sturdy acid free box will also do the trick. The biggest enemies are dust and humidity.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5753230 - 03/24/13 03:33 AM

Arrgghh! That shotglass case will give me nightmares. One small earthquake and your doomed! (I should relax, not everyone lives on three fault lines.)

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5753260 - 03/24/13 04:37 AM

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102 shot glass case




Still plenty of room on those two top shelves.

Nice collection!


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: bluestar]
      #5753406 - 03/24/13 08:52 AM

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How do you store yours??



In my eyepiece case - they get used.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Ruimteman]
      #5753437 - 03/24/13 09:18 AM

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Arrgghh! That shotglass case will give me nightmares. One small earthquake and your doomed! (I should relax, not everyone lives on three fault lines.)


That's why its called a shot glass case, if an earthquake hits all the eyepieces fall in one shot. Just kidding that is a gorgeous case.

I use bolt style containers, Astronomics sells them. I forget where you can get 1" diameter bolts if you are picky about putting them in 1.25" bolts. I also like the Ziploc half/bags, I think they are called snack size bags.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: bluestar]
      #5753468 - 03/24/13 09:38 AM

Quote:

I've been accumulating old eyepieces and am looking for ideas on long term storage. Most did not come with tubes, caps or bolt cases. I do intend to use these on occasion, but do not plan on dis-assembly for internal study.

How do you store yours??




I use containers for medicine without the childproof cap. Many many sizes are available. If you do as much business as I do.... they'll probably just give you some, otherwise they're still pretty inexpensive. I'd bring the eyepieces in just to avoid "suspicion", if you know what I mean.
I use some Avery stick on labels to mark the outside.
Eventually I'll get a hole saw and a nice piece of wood and make a stand but that's when, if ever, I have time.
Kind Regards,

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Ron500E]
      #5753556 - 03/24/13 10:17 AM

End caps (you can get 0.965 endcaps and plugs from agena astro), 1.25 inch e.p. bolts, clear translucent 35mm plastic film cans are perfect for many. Then in wood, felt lined e.p. boxes.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5753713 - 03/24/13 11:19 AM Attachment (20 downloads)

Ok Terra,

It was the felt lined wood box comment that finally prompted me to ante up a ditty on my comparatively hick approach to 18UC's cabinet.

My dad made these book cases before he died. (yes, I know what I just wrote but I've heard similar from people and it just makes me muse "Golly, I hope so")

Felt wood coming up.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753742 - 03/24/13 11:31 AM Attachment (18 downloads)

Top shelf, no margarita.
LAY THEM SIDEWAYS. Well, this is higher dry Colorado and I don't have a pollen problem. I DO have a dust thing. These can lay sideways for years (honestly) and look great on the glass. Otherwise, bolt cases, caps, boxes, and so on. It's common sense really. Note the upright extra Edmund RKEs (ornage band, upper right corner of the Lower shelf). These are in the back up close to the bottom of the shelf above. I just checked them to be sure and the glass is pristine. GOTOs lower right corner with the all brass, all sideways, all just fine.

Ok Terra, the wood boxes on the top shelf are next, and loaded in addition to whats sideways.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753750 - 03/24/13 11:34 AM Attachment (10 downloads)

Yep, felt lined wood boxes. The black top is also felt. The small box has felt lined barrel holes.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753767 - 03/24/13 11:42 AM Attachment (12 downloads)

Middle shelves.

If I care about it then it's bolted, boxed, covered, sideways, or something. The yellow circle Japan Passed eyepiece, lower right corner next to the zebras, is a U.O. circle A.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: albert1]
      #5753782 - 03/24/13 11:53 AM

I like to use small desiccants packages. I keep them in the large rollaround eyepiece box i have. Then i keep that box in a shed with 3 large 4 lb desiccant tubs with my scopes:

http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0029EGUNG/ref=oh_details_o01_s00_i00?ie=UTF...

jon


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753788 - 03/24/13 11:55 AM Attachment (14 downloads)

Bottom shelf margarita, eewwww.

Just tossed if I don't really care. It looks like mostly sideways by default, I'm just not concerned.

Very bottom quality shelf: The Nags and ES 82 N2s are in original boxes in cases with caps. Good grief, if you have a set of ZAO or Clave put them in that shot glass case!
By the way, the Cave Claves went out the door for a good buyers price that was far above the AM high bid, and substantially below my reserve, and buyer and I are both happy.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753799 - 03/24/13 12:03 PM Attachment (10 downloads)

Jon, I'd store mine the same way if I lived on the coast. These cases typically come with dessicant packs that I do monitor, but the lack of humidity here rarely has the packs needing attention.

In spite of a reasonable conclusion, I don't throw them in a grocery bag (paper or plastic) for field use. I'll keep frequent flyers in the case.

Does Meade still make the Tiawan yellow print 4000 or has it all gone China white print now?


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753803 - 03/24/13 12:04 PM

Put them in a clay pot.. Bury them for 2-6 months. Delish. I like caps and a case with desiccant. Bolt cases are good since its not a completely air tight seal. Not convinced a air tight seal is best unless the air is dry.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753812 - 03/24/13 12:09 PM Attachment (15 downloads)

Store them as a plug for your scope. I use them plenty like this. Double duty. Then again it doesn't bother me. Just a quick flip if I have a guest that appreciates the finer details. See all that dust on the top of everything upside? The eyepieces can stay down like this indefinately here and be beautifull.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753871 - 03/24/13 12:42 PM Attachment (11 downloads)

MMM, I like kimchi too, haven't tried the ep version.

LAST POST (yeayyyy?) and a rare one. This one eyepiece is rather highly radio active, seriously, made with Thorium in the glass. Tested with a Geiger counter. The metal fabric lined sack in the box is original military issue. I store this with the extra foil wrap around it, in another box, in the basement....


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5753880 - 03/24/13 12:46 PM

Neil, you should keep that eyepiece in your pocket 24/7 to keep a close eye on it...

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5754005 - 03/24/13 01:33 PM

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Thorium in the glass




What is the point of that? Sounds deliberate, if it comes in a metal-wraped bag.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Joe Cepleur]
      #5754028 - 03/24/13 01:39 PM

I like to keep mine in vintage instrument cases(which are quite fun to collect on their own!). I am especially fond of optical comparator cases, as they were very expensive back in the day. Consequently construction and woods are top-notch.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Joe Cepleur]
      #5754183 - 03/24/13 02:33 PM

Quote:

Quote:

Thorium in the glass



What is the point of that? Sounds deliberate, if it comes in a metal-wraped bag.




By adding thorium to the glass, a high refractive index (over 1.6) can be achieved while maintaining a low dispersion. Self-irradiation of the lens leads to a gradual darkening of the glass that reduces light transmission over time. As a result, it is not unusual to see a reddish brown color to the originally clear glass of older lenses.

Thoriated lenses were ok for Cameras, but are not really a good idea for an eyepiece where you keep it in close contact with your eye. If the eye is positioned close to a thoriated eyepiece, the dose to the eye’s outer tissues can be substantial. Casarett et al, assuming that an individual used an eyepiece containing 16% thorium for 20 hours per week, estimated a dose of 44 rad at a depth of 50 um, and 18 rad at a depth of 60 um. Given a quality factor of 20, this would equate to 880 rem and 360 rem per year respectively. Similar calculations by McMillan and Horne were in general agreement with these numbers. One measurement, as opposed to a theoretical calculation, indicated a dose rate of approximately 1 mrad/hr at the surface of an eyepiece containing 18% thorium.
-- Oak Ridge Associated Universities: Radioactive consumer products.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: apfever]
      #5754723 - 03/24/13 06:51 PM

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By adding thorium to the glass, a high refractive index (over 1.6) can be achieved while maintaining a low dispersion...




I see, thanks. Sounds like a radioactive version of modern ED glass!

Quote:

Lay them on their sides...




Great idea for keeping the glass clean. Have you ever had them roll off the shelves? I suppose if handled carefully, they would roll only sideways, not forward and off.

I keep my oculars in a Tupperware box. Inside the Tupperware are cardboard boxes, some filled with bolt cases, others with oculars in zip-lock bags. The bags not only keep things clean, but also prevent scratches. Concerns about locking in moisture are valid. I always allow mine to dry before zipping them away.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Joe Cepleur]
      #5767637 - 03/30/13 09:20 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

found this today ($20.00) and this post came to mind right away...
since we dont have very many earthquakes around here
i think ill be fine.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5767640 - 03/30/13 09:21 PM Attachment (8 downloads)

should look ok on the telescope room wall.
holds 108


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5767758 - 03/30/13 10:28 PM

pretty mustgobigger

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: buddyjesus]
      #5767894 - 03/30/13 11:43 PM

What is it?

All glass?


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: The Ardent]
      #5767900 - 03/30/13 11:50 PM

Plexiglass with mirror on back.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5768162 - 03/31/13 07:25 AM

Wow, now it will look like you have TWICE as many eyepieces.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Rich (RLTYS)]
      #5768251 - 03/31/13 08:50 AM

Looks Nice, now you just need a plexiglass door on the front
that`s hinged or slides, to keep the dust off the eyepieces.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dave M]
      #5768284 - 03/31/13 09:24 AM Attachment (8 downloads)

I thinned the herd and now I'm now under 50 or so of the little buggers. 30 or so are high end, collectable eyepieces; the others are an eclectic mixture of what ever I happen to take a shine to on CN classified and that other site. Mostly I use bolt cases inside a foam lined Pelican cases. I also rotate a dozen or so every few month into a spot lit display case in my office. / man cave / writing room. They sit next to my collections of petrified wood, minerals, Native American pottery, Asian pottery, arrowheads, brass carriage clocks, and few 18th century pieces of dark blue Wedgwood.

No eyepeices in this older pic. but a really great Celestron Orange 6x30 finder that has a sentimental attachment for me.

Da Bear

Edited by Da Bear (03/31/13 09:29 AM)


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dave M]
      #5768948 - 03/31/13 02:43 PM

Quote:

Looks Nice, now you just need a plexiglass door on the front
that`s hinged or slides, to keep the dust off the eyepieces.




There is a hinged door on it ...
Look close on left side.

If it looks like doubles ill have a nice
set for my binoviewers......


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5770507 - 04/01/13 11:04 AM

Talking about the ground shaking. We had an earthquake near here last year. I was in a meeting and the whole room was moving. I was really worried because I had a number of Unitron scopes just sitting up in the air on the dew shield. When i got home they were all still standing. they are all packed away in the case now. However, I stand the cases on end for the larger Unitrons to save space.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5770575 - 04/01/13 11:36 AM

Ahh!, i see the hinges now that you pointed them out.
Should look real nice on the wall, did you find that at an auction ?


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dave M]
      #5771046 - 04/01/13 03:21 PM

Estate sale...went to buy jewelry
For patsy looked in the corner
And I could picture it full of vintage
Eyepieces ....of course I offered
Less than tag.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5771145 - 04/01/13 04:34 PM

Way to go Brian. Never pay retail

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5774916 - 04/03/13 08:58 AM

Quote:

Estate sale...went to buy jewelry
For patsy looked in the corner
And I could picture it full of vintage
Eyepieces ....of course I offered
Less than tag.




Post a pic once you get it hung on the wall and filled


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dave M]
      #5791389 - 04/10/13 10:00 PM Attachment (9 downloads)

finally hung this up on my wall in scope room.
pics not great...i need another with bigger sections.


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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5791392 - 04/10/13 10:01 PM Attachment (6 downloads)

a little closer

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: mustgobigger]
      #5791397 - 04/10/13 10:04 PM

Very Nice

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dave M]
      #5791513 - 04/10/13 10:52 PM

Cool! It would make a neat poster.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: terraclarke]
      #5793734 - 04/12/13 02:14 AM Attachment (10 downloads)

Here is a picture of my small storage case.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: ngc2289]
      #5795656 - 04/12/13 11:49 PM

Brian, looks like you need to add a few more ep's to finish off the collection..............Seriously though, do you have a dust cover of some kind for your giant wall mount?

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: Dr Morbius]
      #5795699 - 04/13/13 12:22 AM

It does have a door.

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Re: how to store vintage eyepieces new [Re: ngc2289]
      #5795892 - 04/13/13 05:05 AM

yes it does have a door that seals it up nicely.
i also have caps for 99% of those for when i take them out and use them.
i think i will make another to fit all my larger EP's.


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