jeff heck
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I was out late at a dark site last night and after working in Virgo all night I spent some time looking at a few globulars.I like M13 and the Catseye but M5 stole the show.The view at 171x was amazing,bright and resolved to the core.There was also a milky white coloring spread throughout the cluster.I guess my scope was fully cooled down and the transparency was good to great,but this was my best view of any glob to date.I must get out soon and spend some time with the Messier objects again,maybe only a short list of objects. 
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Jeff
I agree and viewed M13,M3,M14,M12 and M10 last weekend! M5 just sits out there and was bright. I used my 12"f/4.9 and a pair of 21mm Tele Vue smooth side eps in the BV. At around 210x is was great viewing! You can never get enough of Globular clusters!
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jeff heck
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Twin Tele Vues in a 12" should make most dso's look great,Jack.I envy your set up.After a night of looking at small faint galaxies the globulars and Jupiter really were impressive.
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I'm envious--my weather has been cloudy/rainy/bright moon for a long time this spring. M5 is a great globular in smaller scopes, and only gets better as aperture increases. My viewing plans include looking for Palomar 5 nearby M5--if the weather ever cooperates.
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The Orion XT10 was my first big scope. I first saw M13 which was my first Globular cluster with it! "Wow" I'll never forget the view! Jupiter only once this year, just to early in the morning for me! Maybe this weekend!
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I prefer M-5 to M-13 myself, and through a large telescope at high power it overruns the field with stars and even shows colors.
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jeff heck
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M13 was also my first dso from a dark site.As George Steinbrenner says from Seinfield,it "blew me away".
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Quote:
I'm envious--my weather has been cloudy/rainy/bright moon for a long time this spring. M5 is a great globular in smaller scopes, and only gets better as aperture increases. My viewing plans include looking for Palomar 5 nearby M5--if the weather ever cooperates.
Same here, regarding the weather.
Pal 5 is a toughie! But, don't forget the nice view of 5 Seprens in the same wide-field view as M5... nice double!
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 I totally agree!
Last night I was out in my back yard (not quite a dark sky site). After checking out some double stars, I decided to make it a night of globulars, which I am relative newbie at observing.
I observed, in this order, M53, M3, M5, and M4. I think M5 was my favorite. Earlier in the week, I had observed M13. It's another favorite, but M5 was VERY nice! M4, though, is the most unique. I assume that's the one you refer to as the "Catseye"? I observed M4 several times last year, but found it hard to see the globular structure. I mostly saw that brightest central band. But, last night, I saw the circular structure with that central band, giving it a unique catseye appearance.
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I love the M-5 Glob. It has a most unique look to it. It is as though there is a web like structure made up of brighter stars entrapping a brilliant core. I think that M-5 is right up there in my list of favorite targets to observe in my Dob!
I was looking at it last night on a particularly nice viewing session as the sky was very clear and still. It is always a treat! 
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I agree. M5 blew my socks off the first time i saw it in my 18". Spectacular sight...
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I'll second that - and takes higher powers well. Even with the 10" back in the UK it resolved all the way to the core. It's certainly one of the best globulars visually and is also well placed for us southerners!
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jeff heck
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To me it looks like M5 has a stiff wind blowing across it,like white shafts of wheat.Sorry,too much coffee...
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M5 is a beauty - here's my 3 seconds of photons for reference 
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M5 is easily one of my favorite globulars as well. It was the first object I observed through an 8" dob and it was amazing. I do think it beats M13 for me. See the sketch I made that night.
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M5's one of my favorite globs, too. 
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I <3 m5.
today the skies are looking pretty good in central CA, i'm starting to get excited...
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John Kocijanski
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M5's one of my favorite globs, too.
Same here. However I think my most favorite is M22.
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jeff heck
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Those are two great sketches of M5,very nice.
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I, too claim M22 as my favorite, but M5 is right up there. Next time you're visiting M5, slide a few degrees west to the last bright star in Virgo (109). Right next to it is a great spindle galaxy, NGC 5746. We could just spot it in an 8" last Friday, and its outstanding through larger apertures. I guess it gets little respect since its so close to all of the shock and awe galaxies in Virgo.
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nice nice nice
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Newbe here, Last night was so sweet, I was able to get out and do some looking around finally, weather has been terrible all week. I was finally able to locate something other than the Moon or Jupiter, first time using the Degree Circles that Carol wrote so much about in the forums. I actually located M5 and M22, I was sooooo happy, lol. Mainly for 2 reasons, one that I got the circles to work and two that I was able to find something. Yeah!!!!
Anyways, just wanted to share that as I am sure many of you can remember back when you located your first DSO. I can say that I am addicted now... 
Thanks,
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I, too claim M22 as my favorite, but M5 is right up there. Next time you're visiting M5, slide a few degrees west to the last bright star in Virgo (109). Right next to it is a great spindle galaxy, NGC 5746. We could just spot it in an 8" last Friday, and its outstanding through larger apertures. I guess it gets little respect since its so close to all of the shock and awe galaxies in Virgo.
There are also some faintish galaxies around 110 Vir. Eastern Virgo has a number of outliers to the great Virgo cluster which don't get equal play, but do extend the spring galaxy season into summer. The proximity to the spectacular M5 makes for a nice contrast - also a great starting point to "globular hop" from.
Globulars have different factors which feed into their appearance: size, brightness, ease of resolution, shape. M4, M22 and M55 are all easy to resolve (if you have a good southern horizon), but look somewhat like incredibly dense open clusters. M5 and M13 have just a tad fainter individual stars, but also that "classic" globular shape of bright core trailing smoothly into the blackness of space. M3 and M92 also have the classic look, while M10 and M12 are kind of oddball.
Anyway, M5 is definitely one of the best.
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Great report DJ! Glad you got to observe. I still remember seeing M81&M82 w/ a 60mm refractor. I even recorded and sketched them!
M5 is also a great object; however, it only showed a few outter stars in my old 3.1" scope, now I have 2.8" scope and can't wait to revisit M5 again!
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M5 is indeed a worthy object for observation and is one of my late summertime favourites but IMO M3 is hot on it's heels for this viewers satisfaction. Neither globular will replace M13 as my single favorite showpiece globular from this northern viewing location. The apparent diameter of M13 is almost double that of M5.
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Here is an observation of M5 with my old 13 inch f/5.6 Newtonian on a night I rated the seeing at 6 and the transparency at 8, a very good night.
In the 11x80 finder it is obviously a globular, even in finder it is round with much brighter middle.
100X--very bright, very large, extremely compressed middle, much much brighter middle and extremely rich. A great cluster, even at low power.
Double star 5 Ser in field, split white/light blue pair.
150X--almost resolved to the core, 3 levels of brightness with outer curved chains of stars and a blazing core. The curved arms make it look like a jeweled scarab.
220X--Wow, best view. 77 stars counted in NE quadrant means that well over 250 stars are seen across the entire face of this globular. The core is a delicate triple star of 13th mag, the stars form an isocoles triangle right at the center. Averted vision really fills in the faint members. The curved arms of stars are really sparkling and this power also shows off several small dark markings within the globular.
330X--a little too much power for this object, it now completely fills the field of view and the cluster aspect is lost.
All in all, a spectacular object and a long time favorite of mine. If you are making a list of the best 10 globulars, then M 5 had better be on your list. We can discuss all day where to place it on the list, but it had better be there.
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Patricko,
Thanks and yes, it was a lot of fun and excitement for me. Now it is like a drug where you just want more and more, lol. Night before last I was able to locate and see M22 again without the use of the computer or without looking at my numbers on the scope. That for me was an accomplishment and very satisfying, self rewarding if I may say...
I still have so much to learn about the skys, locations and terminology that is used but all the more excited now! 
Thanks to everyone that has given me helpful hints and just a wealth of information to go by.
DJ.
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