LumpyDarkness
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OK... I deleted this the last time, I didn't think it would fly. But here goes again, with an extra criterion.
What is your favorite combination of telescope, eyepiece, and object. And, what is it that makes it so great?
For me, it is my old 20 Nagler in my 18" Dob, looking at M42 (oh, how mundane...). With or without a filter (I love the UHC or NPB on this object), it is a stunning sight. I find I never tire of it because I don't often look at it. I spend most my time chasing elusive targets, some at the edge of perception. I save M42 for last of the night, when I've spent all my time trying to squeeze out any hints of targets... M42 then becomes truly a feast for the eye. I kind of like the view through my 12 Nagler too ;-)
What's your favorite, and why?
Clear skies,
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What is your favorite combination of telescope, eyepiece, and object. And, what is it that makes it so great?
Hi Lumpy,
Not an easy question to answer, there are so many wonderful choices, and M 42 is hard to beat.
One of my favorite such combo fields starts with NGC 6723 and includes several different types of objects just to its south. In the same field there is a double star, a couple of emission nebulae, a reflection nebula, a large dark nebula, and even a tiny galaxy. The truth be told, you do need to scan around a bit to see everything, but it is a fascinating area. For more info, look here;
http://tinyurl.com/588sfb
I've seen this in many telescope/eyepiece combinations, but the best of all was probably through a 25" Obsession and a 31mm Nagler from Coonabarabran, near Siding Springs, NSW, Australia. Jumping over to the 20" with the 31mm was also pretty good, with a little bigger field thrown in.
But my all-time favorite combo had to be the Ghost of Jupiter, as seen through the 82" at McDonald, with its 5.5 arc-minute FOV, using an old 40mm Televue eyepiece, this was an almost indescribable image that is forever burned into my retina. Here is what I wrote about it at the time, November 2006;
NGC 3242, Ghost of Jupiter, Hydra "Well, this might have been the best object of the weekend, Saturn notwithstanding. It was just as I remembered it to be when I viewed it through this same telescope in 2000, during the TSP. This PNe has a large slightly oval shape and shows multiple shells, with a bright central star, several other observers used the word "bagel". The innermost ring is small and dark, and had a purple-tinged outer edge. The next shell outwards is a bright crepe-like ring, shocking aqua in color. This is followed by a broader ring that is distinctly salmon or pink in color, my notes call it a "filling", and virtually everyone saw it this way. Lastly was another aqua ring, thinner than the pink ring, and not quite as vibrant in hue as the other aqua ring; it is almost perfectly uniform in width and looked like a racetrack. Curiously, the real-time view in this telescope looks nothing like any picture of this object that I have seen, and I've searched extensively to find a picture that even slightly resembles what I saw. None at all. To see this, I guess you need to book a night on the 82"..."
-------------------- Paul
25" Obsession
5.5" Newt - finder (Cometcatcher)
Hutech 22 X 100 binos w/LPS-P2 filters
Canon 10 X 30 IS binos
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That's a tough one Mark, too many to list for me, and my answer is going to seem pretty strange.
I like the galaxies M81 and M82 viewed as a pair, with the smallest instrument possible. Why? Because years ago I remember finding them with my first scope, a Celestron 60mm refractor, and it just shocked the you-know-what out of me that I could see them with a scope that small from my poor skies. Along with Saturn and M42, it hooked me on astronomy, especially deep-sky.
-------------------- Scott
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Tie between M42 in my 15x70s and Saturn in my 12" Dob with a cheap Plössl. Both of these were "discovered" by me accidentally in the Dob last winter.
-------------------- Mike
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LumpyDarkness
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I know its a tough question. Like you, I have numerous objects that are top list quality views. I expect between eyepiece and scope combinations, and personal preferences, there will be a wide variety of responses. Who doesn't love the Pleiades in a nice refractor? Or a perfect night "magging-up" on The Blue Snowball? There's a lot of territory here....
-------------------- Mark Wagner
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Hmmm ... a different perspective. My fav setup from my suburban driveway in my 8" dob is the 13mm Stratus. Consistently gives me my best combo of mag and exit pupil for almost all DSO targets. 92X, 2.2mm exit pupil, TFOV 0.74deg. ...exceptions are small PNs and planets.... Steve
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1958 Sears Discoverer 76mm Refractor
GSO SV 30mm 2",21mm Hyp,13mm Strat,BO/TMB 6mm&4mm
1.25"Filters: DGM-NPB, 25%ND
1.25" plossls: 25mm,20mm,15mm,9mm
Orion 2X Shorty Barlow
Garrett Gemini LW 11x56mm binocs
cheap $10 green laser pointer(hongkong express)
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Hey Lumps,
My fave would be my 22" and 17 Nagler (which I don't have anymore) with an O-III panning around the Veil in a dark sky. Aaaahhh...very rich wispy detail in all parts, including the Pickering traingle and the "river" from it.
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I really like the M24 starcloud with dark nebulae viewed through my 4 inch binoculars with 24 Pan eps (25x.)
My favorite the last couple of months has been the Cocoon nebula and B168 and M39 and NGC 7082 ALL in the same fov through my new Fujinon 10x50s.
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Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
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LumpyDarkness
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I really like the M24 starcloud with dark nebulae viewed through my 4 inch binoculars with 24 Pan eps (25x.)
My favorite the last couple of months has been the Cocoon nebula and B168 and M39 and NGC 7082 ALL in the same fov through my new Fujinon 10x50s.
I hope you'll bring that setup to GSSP next year...
-------------------- Mark Wagner
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Some of my most impressive celestial views have been through other people's telescopes. Seeing Omega Centauri through the original 36" f/5 Yard Scope and a 27mm Panoptic at the 1995 WSP was a nearly religious experience.
When it comes to the telescopes I own, although it is my second smallest aperture, my 101mm f/5.4 Tele Vue refractor and 13mm Ethos produces remarkable views of the larger DSOs such as M31 and the Double Cluster.
Dave Mitsky
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De gustibus non est disputandum.
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Some of my most impressive celestial views have been through other people's telescopes.
Now that you mention it, viewing Procyon through the 24" Clark refractor at Lowell Observatory was a mind-blowing experience for my son and I!
-------------------- Scott
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16" APM Mak-Cass, 12mm Nagler T4, M13.
At 330X with a field-size of some 15', it's wall-to-wall stars.
-- Jeff.
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PeterSurma
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Well,...
- total solar eclipse 2006 in Turkey with my eyes and a 10x50 binocular
- the complete milkyway disk going down to the western horizon and coming up gain (the other side) in the east (30min later) in southern spain, my eyes only
- looking at the dark holes in the milky way around M39 in northern Cyg, with binoculars 10x50 (under excellent skies)
- M31 with its huge disk in 10x50 binoculars (under excellent skies)
- the arms of M33 in my 20" Dob w/20mm Nagler (under excellent skies)
- an earth grazer (astreoid) moving live in my eyepiece back in 2004 or so, C11 with some eyepiece I cannot remember
- galaxy clusters in my 20" Dob at 20/13mm
- simply overviewing large fields on interesting objects (M27, Cirrus, NGC7000) in my 6" BigFinder (attached to my big Dob) w/ or wo/filters
- seeing a single star in M31 (AE And) in my 20" Dob w/9mm
- the half moon at excellent seeing conditions in my 20" Dob at 13mm/9mm
- recognizing the distributed dust content of our own galaxy by seeing the dark nebula of the Cepheus/Polaris Flare by pure eyes under very good skies
- looking at several groups and clusters and then thinking about how those guys align to form the large scale structure in our universe - basically the instrument is the brain mostly here :-)
Things like this have impressed me most in recent years... I simply don't think I have favourite combinations, rather objects + (hopefully) optimal fits instrument-wise...
Peter
-------------------- Peter
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Edited by PeterSurma (11/19/08 02:19 PM)
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Like Scott, there are too many for me to list.
M31 with my first 60mm refractor. My first galaxy - awesome experience. I was hooked. 
Nowdays, it's the 13mm Ethos in any of my scopes. M31 is still my favorite, but M81/M82 rank right up there, and I really like M92. Smaller than M13, but a marvelous sight nonetheless. 
Ron
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17mm plossl in my Comet catcher....hmmm object...the coat hanger or.....the owl(ET) cluster....or kimbles cascade....or....the double ...yeahthats it,lol.
-------------------- 12 inch Truss Reflector "John"
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Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
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Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?
60mm Telescope Club
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Speaking of Comet catcher.....
-------------------- 10x50 Fujinon binos + 16x70 Fujinon binos + UA UniMount
Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery "Galactic Cannon"
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Dern ep is as big as the scope
-------------------- 12 inch Truss Reflector "John"
102mm Celestron C102HD
Tasco 7TE5 60mm Classic
Tasco 9TE5 60mm Classic
Celestron Ultima 2000 SCT
Remains of an 8 inch dob
Celestron Comet catcher(orange tube)
1960 Edscorp Space Conquerer 6inch f/8
10x50 Bushnell Binoculars.
11T 4.5 inch Tasco reflector Lunograsso?
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Mr. Bill
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Well, they say the eyepiece is half of the telescope...in this case, literally.
-------------------- 10x50 Fujinon binos + 16x70 Fujinon binos + UA UniMount
Oberwerk BT100 45 degree +24mm Pans + Hercules fork mount
120mm f/5 Orion achromat + Moonlite focuser
130mm TMB 130SS f/7 APO refractor
140mm f/5.7 Vixen NeoAchro Petzvel refractor
150mm f/8 homemade achromat
8 inch newt with f/5 Swayze mirror
10 inch f/4.7 Orion newt + Paracorr
15 inch f/5 Discovery "Galactic Cannon"
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My favorite scope, my 24" StarMaster / w Zambuto mirror, the eyepiece would be the 31 Nagler, and you put this combo on the Veil Nebula /W OIII filter, GoTo the 6960 side, move the scope over to the 6992 side, hit the GoTo ( 6960) and watch the view in the eyepiece. Its amazing as it travels across the distance to the other side. I always show this to people when I'm looking at the Veil. Give it a try sometime. Dan
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LumpyDarkness
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My favorite scope, my 24" StarMaster / w Zambuto mirror, the eyepiece would be the 31 Nagler, and you put this combo on the Veil Nebula /W OIII filter, GoTo the 6960 side, move the scope over to the 6992 side, hit the GoTo ( 6960) and watch the view in the eyepiece. Its amazing as it travels across the distance to the other side. I always show this to people when I'm looking at the Veil. Give it a try sometime. Dan
Dan.... where is there a full size version of your avatar?
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LumpyDarkness
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Another of my favorites is a dense galaxy cluster, my 7 Nagler and 18" Dob, and galaxy hopping at the edge of perception. Working over a chart, and finding everything within reason. Very fun, very satisfying....
All I need now is a bigger scope, and someone to transport it and set it up!
-------------------- Mark Wagner
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Sorry , it took so long to get back. This has been deer hunting weekend, and I've been out most of three days :-) That pic is me and one of those twin 24" StarMasters is mine, I tell everyone that I had my pic of the two. That was the day I went to Ricks to pick up my scope and there was one more 24" in the shop.I just shrunk it down for my avatar. Dan
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Another of my favorites is a dense galaxy cluster, my 7 Nagler and 18" Dob, and galaxy hopping at the edge of perception. Working over a chart, and finding everything within reason. Very fun, very satisfying....
Mark,
A couple of weeks ago I was looking at the Perseus I galaxy cluster through a friend's 16" f/4.5 Dob. When he borrowed another friend's 8mm Ethos and placed it in the focuser, the cluster took on a whole new aspect. The galaxies that had been merely faint fuzzies previously stood out with remarkable clarity.
Dave Mitsky
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Through scopes I have owned...
12.5" Dob + 10XW and M13
12" or 12.5" + 31T5 + OIII and the Veil
Some day I will hope to repeat these with my 22" when it arrives
Although they are not deep sky objects technically I can never get enough of Jupiter or Saturn with the 127 + TMB 4mm or 5mm
I had some great nights down under viewing Omega Cen. LMC, SMC.... 47 Tuc, Eta Car....but I was restricted to my 85mm so it wasn't the same as viewing through a light bucket... maybe some day
-------------------- Bill
'flector: R200SS, 22" f/3.6 (on order)
'fractors: PST, AT-66, TV-85, FS-102, NP-127, TMB-152
'bins: 15x63, 10x52, 22x85
410+028B, Sphinx, Telepod, EZ Touch, G-11
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PeterSurma
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Speaking of Comet catcher.....
Well, sorry, I use this as a finder scope actually
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Looks like an effective counter weight too!
-------------------- Bill
'flector: R200SS, 22" f/3.6 (on order)
'fractors: PST, AT-66, TV-85, FS-102, NP-127, TMB-152
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PeterSurma
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Well, actually it balances out along the tube, because the Elevation axis roughly goes through its center of mass. But well, I was cheating a bit, there is in fact a counterweight on the far side of the mirror box (to balance for the finder :-).
But apart from that, I like this combination a real lot. It's really great to easily change the field of view from 3.4° (31mm in Bigfinder) to 0.8° (20mm in the Dob) with identical objects in it and identical orientation...
Peter
-------------------- Peter
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Scopes: From 3inch photographic APO to 20inch f/4 Dob
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Favorite combo at the moment:
Vixen NA-140 13mm Ethos Double Cluster
Subject to change depending on sky conditions and equipment used.
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Well, after thinking about the question a common denominator became apparent; Largest true field of view. This locked in the eyepiece favorite, the 31mm Nagler.
Given I use three scopes; 6, 20, and 36 inch in the f3.5 to 4.5, this locked in the use of a Paracorr.
The objects I call my favorites are a function of aperture.... Star clusters look stunning in the 6"f3.5 because they are seen in context with their surroundings in a 4 degree tfov. For the 20"f4.2 it's nebulae though I'm limited to 1 degree tfov. For the 36", it's been galaxies brighter than 16 mag that show detail and are perfectly framed in the 0.5 degree tfov.
Steven
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III a 6"f3.5 Finder/Newt-Dob, and
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>Favorite combo at the moment: Vixen NA-140 13mm Ethos Double Cluster<
Ahh, a man after me own heart!
Jim
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