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Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism
      #277252 - 12/09/04 09:38 PM
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After reading Carol's 22 X 100 report in this forum last month, I went outside to check out the smiley face in Auriga. Quite obvious, and it is now on my list of fun asterisms to point out.

Now, the rest of the story: I assumed that this was a well known asterism, and Carol was just revisiting it, so I did a Google search for the asterism, and surprise, except for CN forum/Carol, no hits at all!

Today, I casually asked a local astronomer(involved with a Central NJ observatory) about the Auriga smiley face, and he was amazed, since he was well aware of the area around M36 and M38, but never heard of the asterism.

Bottom line, at the risk of being presumptuous, should we start to refer to the Auriga asterism as Carol's Smiley Face?

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: AJTony]
      #277256 - 12/09/04 09:40 PM
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Hmmmm.. Looks like we going to have to.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: DenisY]
      #277363 - 12/10/04 12:13 AM
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Seconded.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: AJTony]
      #277408 - 12/10/04 01:49 AM
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Of course we shall!

(exept if Carol would not like it...)

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: AJTony]
      #277456 - 12/10/04 03:58 AM
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Question: How do you know when you have done too much astronomy?

Answer: When you start dreaming about it!

I have had the same dream for 3 nights running about a new nebula (that doesn't really exist). It's called the parallel nebula, and consists of 3 approximately horizontal lines of lengths 4, 5 and 4 stars respectively, enveolped in an elliptical blue nebula. It is particularly prominent in the winter months, lying low in the west after sunset and steadily rising throuhg the night, and is visible to the naked eye with averted vision, magnitude 2.0!

It looks like this:
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Am i going crazy?

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Thick_asa_Planck]
      #277482 - 12/10/04 05:20 AM
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Not all observers browse cloudynights forums and use the smileyman guys. What you see is what you get

Besides, you need a widefield telescope to see this well, since the size's something like over 60'. 7 star asterims in milkyway with over 1 deg in size, that's why it is not well known.

The real smileyface, of course, is around Mirfak in Perseus.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: ]
      #277504 - 12/10/04 07:01 AM
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Maybe the asterism should simply be called Carol 1. Other amateurs have had objects named after them and are listed on star charts.

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      #277511 - 12/10/04 07:10 AM
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Yeh Carol's Smiley Face sounds good to me

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: AJTony]
      #277610 - 12/10/04 09:55 AM
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I think that'd be a great way to honor Carol's efforts and expertise on CN. Carol's Smiley Face it is! When my new binos show up on Wed. I'll take a look at it.

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      #277977 - 12/10/04 05:17 PM
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What an honor! Thanks everyone!
Actually, I read about it quite a while ago and it's been a bino favorite ever since.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
      #278565 - 12/11/04 04:38 PM
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What you read about the asterism is not overly significant. What is significant is that when you go to Google and type in Auriga smiley face, your name/post is the only true hit.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Thick_asa_Planck]
      #278641 - 12/11/04 06:36 PM
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Quote:

Question: How do you know when you have done too much astronomy?

Answer: When you start dreaming about it!

I have had the same dream for 3 nights running about a new nebula (that doesn't really exist). It's called the parallel nebula, and consists of 3 approximately horizontal lines of lengths 4, 5 and 4 stars respectively, enveolped in an elliptical blue nebula. It is particularly prominent in the winter months, lying low in the west after sunset and steadily rising throuhg the night, and is visible to the naked eye with averted vision, magnitude 2.0!

It looks like this:
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. . . .

Am i going crazy?

Alex



Yep, you're going crazy if your nebula is "lying low in the west after sunset and steadily rising throuhg the night".

From Maple Valley, things in the West drop below the horizon, while things in the east "steadily rise through the night."

A few weeks of cloudy weather makes me dream of crazy things too, Alex. Comes with the territory.



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What you read about the asterism is not overly significant. What is significant is that when you go to Google and type in Auriga smiley face, your name/post is the only true hit.
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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
      #279029 - 12/12/04 06:02 AM
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Carol, I had a laugh spotting that asterism the other night while scanning through Auriga with binoculars.

You know, something in that image you posted caught my eye. Does anybody else see an oblique grrr face looking down on the smiley from above and to the right? :-O

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Jeremy Perez]
      #279508 - 12/12/04 06:47 PM
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Jeremy, now I really can't wait to get my new binos on Wednesday to check this out. Should be interesting.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Jeremy Perez]
      #279818 - 12/13/04 01:38 AM
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Carol, I had a laugh spotting that asterism the other night while scanning through Auriga with binoculars.

You know, something in that image you posted caught my eye. Does anybody else see an oblique grrr face looking down on the smiley from above and to the right? :-O



Isn't it a stitch? It honestly makes me every time I see it.
Eeek, that other one does look like a crabbyface, but the poor thing looks like it's missing an eye.
I read somewhere that it reminded someone of a fish, and with a stretch of the imagination it does looks like a miniature Delphinus [with a nightlight above his head].

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
      #282002 - 12/15/04 09:21 AM
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Carol- I'll never look at Auriga the same way again. After receiving my new 10x50's yesterday I had to give them a trial run. First stop was Carol's Smiley Face and Jeremy's Grrrr. Gotta admit it reminded me of your avatar, and made me smile too I also took some long looks at M36/37/38, M42, M45, M31, the Hyades, and comet Machholz. Before I called it a night I took a look at the CSF asterism again and headed off to sleep, still smiling. Thanks Carol!

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: ArizonaScott]
      #282511 - 12/15/04 08:35 PM
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I'll have to check that out tonight! I never really noticed that as a smiley face before!

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Thanks Scott! I had a look at it last night with the 22x100s and it just isn't the same.. low power shows it best.

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      #282566 - 12/15/04 09:42 PM
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I had a look at it last night with the 22x100s and it just isn't the same.. low power shows it best.
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It did look great in the new 10x50's. The FOV would've been too narrow in my 20x80's. You better take a new avatar pic and show me the pearly whites, but somehow I didn't take you for a toothless redneck like us folks from Arizona

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: ArizonaScott]
      #283887 - 12/17/04 02:11 AM
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Carol, Thanks for something new to show to people! I saw it for the first time tonight with my 10 x 50's. That grin is so wide, it reminds me of a frog's face (except frogs don't have teeth, of course. I connect the dots subconsiously.) I like to show folks the E.T. cluster(ngc457) it's always a hit, & I know they're going to love this one too! Thanks.

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You're welcome, Jim!

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
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First, thank you Carol for telling me about this cute asterism, but I don't think she likes me. I had a look at the asterism on the 3rd with my 12x50s and she seemed to be happy to see me . I then used my 20x80s, and I then noticed that she was sticking her tongue out at me!

Here's a quick sketch I made of the face.

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Hey, thanks for bringing up this old thread, I wasn't around last year so now I have something new and fun to look for that isn't on the usual charts!

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For some reason, I keep looking for a figure of a certain game-show hostess of the 1990s, our own CAROL SMILLIE !

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Excellent sketch, Autolycus! The colors make it realistic, and you did a great job on Struve 698 (the right 'eye'). With the 11x70s I never noticed her giving me the raspberries, though.. that's too much! I'll take a look with higher power if it ever clears up.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
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This is crazy. M36, M37, and M38 are a few of my favorite objects in the night sky, so I tend to spend a lot of time in Auriga, and I never noticed this asterism.

Now I can't wait for the weather to clear up.

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Definitely going on my list of things to take a peek at Carol!

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I did get a quick peek at it on Monday with the binos, very neat to see it live!

I'm also working my way through Touring the Night Sky with Binoculars (approx. title from memory) by Harrington, and he mentions Jeremy's nearby GRRR asterism but pictured it as something else (forgot what, sorry). The pic in the book also shows it from a different angle, so apparently he, at that time at least, hadn't discovered your Smiley Face either! I had to laugh when I saw the pic after reading this thread!

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Iirc it's been referred to as a flying fish. Come to think of it, it does resemble Delphinus a bit but I like 'Jeremy's Grrr' better.
Geeze, I'm glad everyone's getting such a kick out of the smiley face.. that big old gap-toothed grin never fails to crack me up.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Asterism {Cheshire Cat} new [Re: AJTony]
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What an honor! Thanks everyone!
Actually, I read about it quite a while ago and it's been a bino favorite ever since. Carol L.



To all,

This post is intended to clear up the history of this asterism in Auriga.

This may be my only discovery and seeing it usurped on this thread is a bit disheartening. I christened this asterism back in 2002 calling it 'Cheshire Cat'. No one had made the association of a face with this group of stars before my posting to StarryNights on 8-Nov-2002 (see below).

Carol did mention in her 1st response to this thread that it was discovered by someone else.

Sometime ago I sent a message to Phil Harrington (who keeps an official list of asterisms called S.T.A.R.) letting him know about the asterism and received a reply from him saying that 'Cheshire Cat' is a new find.

Just wanted to set the record straight.

All the best.

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Here is the original text in message # 13510 on the Yahoo Groups list StarryNights:

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Date: Fri Nov 8, 2002 11:57 am
Subject: Asterism in Auriga [7Nov2002]

Last night while looking through Auriga for M36 and M38 with 8.5x42 binoculars I came across a binocular asterism located SSW of M38. It is centered on RA 5h 27.5m / Dec +35 degrees. I viewed it at ~10p EST. The object is made up of 8 stars ranging in magnitude from 5.08 (phi Aur) to 6.86 (TYC 2411-515-1). The entire asterism can fit inside a 2° circle. This asterism looks like a face -- 2 eyes (mags 6.15 & 6.52) and 6 stars for the mouth. I am calling it "Cheshire Cat" ... unless, of course, there is another Cheshire Cat up there. If so then I would call it Frog Face keeping with the alliterative theme. The face is oriented "properly" at this time of night/year.

If this asterism has been named already please let me know if the details exist somewhere.

Also, on the left edge of the "smile" (nearer to M38) is the eclipsing binary star LY Aurigae which varies from 6.7 - 7.4 with a period of 4.002 days.

Let me know what you think.

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Sometime ago I sent a message to Phil Harrington (who keeps an official list of asterisms called S.T.A.R.) letting him know about the asterism and received a reply from him saying that 'Cheshire Cat' is a new find.




Hi Ben,

Welcome to CN. Just so you don't feel so bad, I re-discovered M42 in Orion and I have dubbed it Mike's Nebula. This kind of thing happens all the time around here! Oh yeah, by the way, I renamed Vega to Mike also.

Hmmm.....how about the Summer Mikey Way in Sagittarius?

Seriously though, I don't think anyone was trying to rob you of your kudos. Congrats on finding the asterism. Independent and often parallel discoveries happen all the time in Astronomy and your Chesire Cat is the latest victim. By the way, does Harrington have that STAR list online anywhere? I'd be curious to take a look at some of those asterisms.

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Congrats on finding the asterism. Independent and often parallel discoveries happen all the time in Astronomy and your Chesire Cat is the latest victim. By the way, does Harrington have that STAR list online anywhere? I'd be curious to take a look at some of those asterisms.




Mike,

Thanks for the welcome! This is a great forum.

The discussion on this thread concerning the asterism is not actually a parallel find. I made the announcement of the discovery on StarryNights in 2002 to see what this grouping of stars was called. It was so distinctive I thought it would've been named already.

I soon found out I was the first to bring this to the attention of amateur astronomers and Carol L. was one of the first to view it after the announcement. It has been a favorite of hers since. She briefly mentions this in her first reply to this thread.

Re: S.T.A.R. List: Phil Harrington posted his favorites in a Sky & Telescope article in the May 1998 issue. See Phil's books 'Touring the Universe Through Binoculars' and 'The Deep Sky: An Introduction' for additional asterisms.

On the Yahoo! Group 'skymap' I found this awhile ago. It lists over 2 dozen S.T.A.R. asterisms. This may or may not be complete since I haven't looked through Phil's books yet:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/skymap/message/5463

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Found this on the net,

The planned list, caged from Mr. Harrington's books, looks like this:

STAR Number
Constellation
Time of Year
Size
Focal Length
RA
DEC
Name

1
Ursa Minor
Summer
45'
600 mm
2h 32m
89d 0m
Diamond Ring

2
Fornax
Summer
30' X 30'
2500 mm
3h 27m
-35d 0m
Chi 1,2,3

3
Camelopardalis
Winter
150'
600 mm
4h 0m
63d 0m
Kemble's Cascade

4
Auriga
Winter
75'
600 mm
5h 19m
33d 40m
Flying Minnow

5
Monoceros
Winter
15'
2500 mm
6h 41m
-9d 0m
Arrow Head

6
Leo Minor
Spring
45'
600 mm
10h 14m
31d 30m
Sailboat Cluster

7
Hercules
Summer
100' X 15'
600mm
16h 18m
13d 0m
Zig Zag

8
Telescopium
Summer
15'
2500 mm
18h 30.4m
-46d 08m
X Marks The Spot

9
Delphinus
Summer
60' X 30'
600 mm
20h 38m
13d 10m
Theta Delphini

10
Cygnus
Summer
600' X 180'
135 mm
21h 0m
55d 0m
Dark Lane

11
Cepheus
Summer
600' X 300'
135 mm
21h 48m
61d 0m
Cephus OB2 *Word deleted by the CN gnaughties gnomes*'n

12
Cassiopeia
Autumn
60'
600 mm
23h 20m
62d 20m
Airplane

13
Cassiopeia
Autumn
220' X 160'
300 mm
1h 38m
58d 30m
Queen's Kite

14
Andromeda
Autumn
20' X 95'
600 mm
1h 52.5m
37d 30m
Golf Putter

15
Cassiopeia
Autumn
90' X 30'
600 mm
3h 28m
72d 0m
Kemble's Kite

16
Taurus
Winter
200' X 90'
300 mm
4h 22.5m
21d 25m
Davis' Dog

17
Monoceros
Winter
10'
2500 mm
6h 40.5m
-9d 0m
Unicorn's Horn

18
Monoceros
Winter

600 mm
6h 52.5m
-10d 10m
Pakan's 3

19
Ursa Major
Spring
20'
2500 mm
10h 51.0m
56d 09m
Broken engagement Ring

20
Corvus
Spring
15'
2500 mm
12h 35.7m
-12d 02m
Stargate

21
Virgo
Spring
15'
2500 mm
12h 38.5m
-11d 30m
Jaws

22
Ursa Minor
Summer
15'
2500 mm
16h 29m
80d 13m
Mini - Coathanger

23
Hercules
Summer
20'
2500 mm
16h 37.8m
31d 05m
Backwards 5

24
Hercules
Summer
15'
2500 mm
18h 02.5m
26d 18m

25
Draco
Summer
10' X 20'
2500 mm
18h 35m
72d 25m
Little Queen

26
Cygnus
Summer
45'
1600 mm
20h 13.8m
36d 30m
Red Necked Emu

27
Delphinus
Summer
15'
2500 mm
21h 07.3m
16d 20m
Dolphin's Diamonds

28
Cygnus
Summer
25'
2500 mm
21h 08.3m
47d 14m
Horseshoe

29
Cassiopeia
Autumn
70' X 125'
600 mm
23h 03m
59d 30m
Lucky 7

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Ben Cacace]
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Long time no see, Ben.. welcome to CN!

Please understand that the purpose of this thread wasn't to usurp anything or rob you of your claim. It was the result of a group of amateurs enthusiastically responding to a charming asterism they hadn't yet seen. The asterism will officially retain the name you gave it until you yourself decide to change it.. no one can take that away from you.

However, if you're upset because people here at CN have been calling it by a different name, then I guess that's my fault.. I shared it with them, my name is Carol, and I said it looked like a smiley face.


That being said, would you please remove my name from your website, and change the phrase "discussing the renaming" to something else? We weren't discussing a name change.
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Long time no see, Ben.. welcome to CN!

[...] That being said, would you please remove my name from your website and change the phrase "discussing the renaming" to something else? We weren't discussing a name change.

Thank you!



Carol,

Thanks for the response and for the update on the situation.

I will make the changes to the blog immediately. The only reason I added your name was to clarify how the people on the list found out about the asterism.

All the best.

Ben

P.S. - It's good to see that photos appear on this list. A very nice touch!

P.P.S. - Glad to see you get a kick out of the asterism. You've popularized this asterism far more than I ever could.

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...I re-discovered M42 in Orion and I have dubbed it Mike's Nebula.



Hold the phone.. Mike's Nebula?
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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
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What you read about the asterism is not overly significant. What is significant is that when you go to Google and type in Auriga smiley face, your name/post is the only true hit.

AJ




AJ

Just goes to show you how careful you have to be with getting information off the internet. Just suppose if you were to call that same asterism the laughing asterism, your name would be the only hit associated with the laughing asterism and it would appear that you named it.

FWIW, I like looking at it and if it hadn't been for Carol I would have never known about it or seen it. And I've looked at that spot hundreds of times.

About a year ago or more, I named three asterisms that I found with giant binoculars. Anybody ever look at them?

Google the Dinosaur asterism, the Orion asterism and the Lizard asterism, see what you find. IIRC, in some earlier notes I also referred to the first two as the Trojan Horse asterism and the Hour Glass asterism. Could be these names are only in my notes.

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Yay, I finally figured it out!

Ben, at first I couldn't understand why you were upset about all this.. people don't always refer to celestial objects by their assigned names, it happens all the time. But I finally figured out what happened, and it appears there's been a terrible misunderstanding. Please bear with me and forgive the fact that I'm including a few lines from your PMs.. I had to in order to explain.
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These phrases from your first PM confused me..
I knew you knew the situation
-and-
...seeing that it wasn't getting resolved forced me to post something
Especially confusing were 'knew the situation' and 'resolved'.
What situation?
Resolve what?

Then I got your last PM, and this one sentence made me understand what happened:
It was just that I knew you knew and the situation remained the same for over a year.

The words I knew you knew are the heart of the misunderstanding.
Ben, did you think I remembered where I'd read about the asterism, but chose not to disclose the information for over a year in this thread? Nothing could be further from the truth.

Your announcement was posted in Yahoo over three years ago.. I remembered where the asterism was in the sky, but not where I'd read about it, or its name. If I had, trust me.. I'd have said so when I introduced it to the CN members in this bino report last year.

So you see? It was just a big misunderstanding.. no need to be upset.
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Yay, I finally figured it out!

[...] So you see? It was just a big misunderstanding.. no need to be upset. I feel better.. how about you?



Indeed I do. All is well with the world!

Looking forward to clear, cold skies here in the heart of New York City.

All the best and clear skies to all.

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And they all lived happily ever after.



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All else aside, the skies cleared for a few minuted last night, and I got to see the asterism for the first time.
Very cool. Thanks to the both of you for bringing this site to my attention.

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Carol, I had a laugh spotting that asterism the other night while scanning through Auriga with binoculars.




I too would like to thank you Carol. Since reading this thread I have been looking forward to seeing this asterism. Well last night and again tonight I got to look at the "Cheshire Cat" with my 10x50 Bino's, and had a good chuckle. This will be one of my favorites from now on. Thanks Carol.

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Bottom line, at the risk of being presumptuous, should we start to refer to the Auriga asterism as Carol's Smiley Face?

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Apparently there's already a "smiley face" asterism in the constellation of Cygnus. It's known as Vultus Irrisorie, or literally The Face with a Smile.

I came across it in on a list of little-known objects, some of which were quite familiar to me, and observed it with my 15x70s and Orion ShortTube 80, while I was at the Black Forest Star Party last week. I also had a look at Carol's asterim.

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Bottom line, at the risk of being presumptuous, should we start to refer to the Auriga asterism as Carol's Smiley Face?

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No we should call it Auriga and leave it at that. Amateur Astronomy gets a little _____________ when these things crop up and theres really little to no use for it. Ive got as good imagination as anyone but toss the idea at connecting dots in the sky.

Apparently some people find it meaningful - to me it has nothing to with whats really there.

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Apparently there's already a "smiley face" asterism in the constellation of Cygnus. It's known as Vultus Irrisorie, or literally The Face with a Smile.

I came across it in on a list of little-known objects, some of which were quite familiar to me, and observed it with my 15x70s and Orion ShortTube 80, while I was at the Black Forest Star Party last week. I also had a look at Carol's asterim.

Dave Mitsky



Hey Dave, How about some info on the location, size, etc. of the "Smiley Face". I love to look at asterism's. I enjoy them as a diversion at times.
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Saw Carol's smiley in 100mm binos. Uncanny

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Vultus Irrisorie consists of seven stars and is located in northwestern Cygnus at 19h 53.2m, +47° 16'. As far as asterisms go, it's far from being impressive, not that many of them really are.

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Hi, Carol here.
I just call it the 'Auriga' Smiley Face.

(Dave, thanks for the heads-up on Vultus Irrisorie.. it's on my list for the next clear night.)

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..I guess at this point we might as well call it 'Carols Constellation' ...

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Carol,

Gee, thanks. I thought I had finished setting up my lists of objects to find: a DSO list, double star list, lunar list. And now you remind me about asterisms! Well, it will give me something to do until the next clear night. I'll be sure to include Carol's Smiley Face in the Asterism List. My daughter always enjoys seeing these little cartoons in the sky.

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I think she'll like it a lot, Mike... that big grin up there always makes me grin right along with it.

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Carol,

It's funny what different people will see or not see when they look at star patterns. After reading this thread, I began looking for lists of asterisms on internet sites. One site had a photo of a small asterism in Auriga. But what do I see in the same photo, big as life? Carol's Smiley Face! I don't think the person who set up the website even noticed the huge asterism right beside the tiny little one he was talking about.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Sarkikos]
      #3437390 - 11/09/09 01:25 AM
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Hi Mike, was the small asterism the 'Flying Fish' to the upper right of the Smile? (I think that's what it's called.)

BTW Dave, i took a look at Vultus Irrisorie... you're right, it's far from being impressive. Still of interest, though.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Carol L]
      #3437439 - 11/09/09 02:39 AM
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Perhaps you thinking of the Leaping (or Flying) Minnow, which is likely the single most ludicrous nickname for an asterism.

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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Dave Mitsky]
      #3437492 - 11/09/09 04:38 AM
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Just googled that. It's called the leaping minnow? No way!
This thing, right? http://pix.sparky-s.ie/images/18183829160215729618.jpg
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Re: Carol's Smiley Face? Auriga Asterism new [Re: Hrundi]
      #3438101 - 11/09/09 01:29 PM
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I showed the Smiley Face (Cheshire Cat) to a fellow club member at one of our public viewing's last week. It was much to low in the sky and light pollution, very unimpressive to me, but she still smiled when she saw it.

As for the leaping minnow, it has always looked like a little Delphinus to me. Anyway that's how I see it.

Clear skies, Buddy

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